No way fast food workers should get paid as much as paramedics
Maybe the problem is that we're only paying EMTs $15 an hour?
@Rtas Vadum, while I agree a fast food worker doesnt deserve $15 an hour either.
@tmo0792, yeah but the issue is minimum wage is supposed to be the minimum amount you can earn and still stay above the poverty line and it's not so you get things like people who work two jobs and are still poor cause they're making 450 bucks a week.
@You from the future, the problem with that is that almost 99% of people who work a minimum wage job qualify for almost 7k a year in free grants to go to school. So they will basically be paid to get an associate's degree and even earn a bachelor's for little to nothing. The point I'm getting at is that fast food was made to be a temporary thing not a permanent. The job is neither hard or physically draining or mentally demanding. Plus as others have said you can work in a warehouse or something similar and make like 16 an hour. They have options they are just too lazy. I've been in their shoes and I worked hard to get myself from out of nothing.
@tmo0792, if you think fast food is any less exhausting, you haven't worked two jobs near cities during lunch and dinner rush.
@tmo0792, im the same way...at one point(due to my own poor decisions) i was living in an 89 blazer with 2 people and 3 dogs....wasnt until my friends dad taught me the meaning of hard work and dedication that i was able to climb out of the refuse and make something of myself...
@Rtas Vadum, I think it more likely that morons just dont understand supply and demand. 90% of the population can flip a burger and only 10% can save your life so, which one is more valuable?
@Rtas Vadum, actually I have I worked as a cook at one of the busiest diners in my city people line up out of the door to eat from breakfast to dinner 12 hour shift there is nothing compared to what EMS and police officers do. (By the way I've done that as well) fast food work is a joke compared to a job like a warehouse or being a construction worker.
@Rtas Vadum, it isn’t as hard. I was a waiter with 11 tables, did the dishes, cleaned the restaurant, cooked even, worked there 80hrs. a week for Chinese fresh off the boat (hard work ethic) and I’ll still say it’s easy compared to a trade. Machinist starting pay is 16 an hr. Pell grants will pay the entire cost of schooling, most places will hire you while you finish schooling. In a few years you’ll be making 25+. A guy I worked with who was 36 was making 44 an hour as a manual machinist. Acquiring skills makes your time worthwhile.
@LightskinDarkNig, I started out as a delivery boy for Papa John's during highschool. After highschool, I went to work for a warehouse and was there for about a year. During this time, I studied Pipefitting and OSHA safety regulations. In 2013 I had a job offer from Turner Industries in McPherson, Kansas (I live in Tennessee.) Started out at 17 an hour at 19 years old. After six years I'm still with Turner. Now making 29 an hour and 75(untaxed) a day for staying out of state.
@Ze Grammar Nazi, you ever say the name of McPherson wrong and piss everyone there off?
@32Shaq32, Several times.
@Ze Grammar Nazi, couple buddies worked to xcell ndt up there. It was one of my favorite things to do when I went to visit them.
@Rtas Vadum, I was an EMT and only got 11 an hour about 3 years ago
I work in a steel processing warehouse for $16/hr risking myself around mountains of steel, heavy ans dangerous machinery, and heat and cold that have driven lesser men away, and you can bet I'll raise hell if this Cook County minimum wage increase happens, because there's no way I'm getting bumped up $7/hr if it does.
@Captain Swordsman, my wife worked a job 10 years and got up to $16 an hour and minimum wage skyrocketed so fast that new hires get paid almost the same. It's bs. When minimum wage needs to rise it needs to be over a long time or things crash
@Captain Swordsman, BUT... you dont need to deal with dozens of bitchy customers every day.
@ThePandaPool , well steel beams and Bitchy customers do have one thing in common: they're both unforgiving and cannot be reasoned with. The biggest difference is that key fuel can melt the customers.
@ThePandaPool , bro I worked in a real restaurant and fast food. Neither job deserved $15 an hour. Pretty much every job will have bîtchy clients and customers. The best thing you can do to them is smile and laugh at their anger it will infuriate them more, making you look more reasonable when you don’t get mad and are being super positive.
@Captain Swordsman, Dude you should be payed more. Here in Alberta steel manufacturing/processing/etc get around $32.95 an hour ($25.20 USD).
Also minimum wage is $15 here ($11.47 USD). On a provincial level I should add. The federal government doesn’t control minimum wage as far as I know.
If you want to make minimum wage $15/hr to be able to afford to live, expect cost of living to increase too
@Elmato, i dont get how the majority of the population does not see this...
@BOBTHEDESTROYER, well you see when the majority of the world is selfish and they will do anything to make themselves "think" they are getting more money. They are just blind sheep following mindlessly. That's what we call socialism
@tmo0792, bro majority of the world looking at Cali crazy for that ish. I have a mowing operation and a job, when I hear about this it angers me, I literally work 6 days a week and stress about not working the seventh day. But I hear people who work 40 hrs. complaining they’re broke. 😡
@LightskinDarkNig, yeah they are crazy. It's dark times there. They freaking are trying to legalize pedophilia too. They wonder why they get earthquakes, forest fires, and hurricanes. God dont play that game
@tmo0792, legalize pedophilia?
@LightskinDarkNig, yeah there's a big movement for that especially in California. They have already lowered sentences and passed a bill that would allow pedophiles to not have to register as sex offenders as long as they didn't "forcibly rape" the child. Also extends to those who have already committed the crimes. Its apart of the LGTBQI2973@^#&÷ movement.
Made me concerned, it’s a tiered system that would eventually allow people who committed less serious offenses like flashing to not have to register as a sex offender anymore. Rapists and pedophiles under this system will get treated the same as anywhere else. I like to source my facts, no foul meant.
My sister is a prosecutor. She has never lost one of those cases, the shît she has to hear dude.
@LightskinDarkNig, yeah but do not know what happens? We have carelessly allowed one perversion in after another. This is just the stepping stone for what's to come. Theres already groups of people wanting to make it legal. We allow an inch and they will take a mile. I'm telling you this is where is starts. I dont think they should catch any break
@tmo0792, have faith, the citizenry of America is not a bunch of pedophiles and rapists. People here would not sit idly by.
I would also like to state that I work in a warehouse with heavy machinery for $19/hr, I would nuke the person who approves $15/hr minimum wage
@Elmato, that sudden wage increase destroys the wages we claw up to right?
@Dephenistrator, yup, because companies can't afford the increased wages to be proportional to the minimum wage. It results in lay offs or a box of pens going from $3 to $15
@Elmato, exactly, people are glossing over the must fundamentally basic aspects of supply and demand. Paying people a million dollars an hour for example doesn't make everyone rich, it makes a million dollars worth an hour at a McDonald's, makes pens cost 10 million.
@Dephenistrator, it makes me salty that McDonald's workers with the biggest risk to them is getting a drop of hot fry oil on their arm want similar pay to me. At my job, I work in the heat and move at an incredibly fast pace picking products for 8 hours a day. Sometimes the box of product I need weighs 50 pounds easy. I've had my hands and feet squished due to product falling off shelves or heavy boxes that have either heavy reams of paper or liquids. Nothing horrid, but have you ever felt a box of notepads that weighs 80 pounds fall off a pallet and onto your foot, it hurts. I used to work at McDonald's, the pay sucked and dealing with coworkers and customers wasn't worth $8.15/hr and I quit in 6 months by leaving my uniform on the counter and just walked out. Take this as you may, but I rather be homeless and jobless than work at McDonald's
@Elmato, first off, kudos for how you left McDonald's.
I used to work at a ups warehouse lifting as up to around 100 pounds (our limit is 75 for one person but i was 19 and 20 so of course i didn't listen) i was getting about $8.40 an hour and was beat to hell. I think it's safer than your steel job but someone died at my warehouse almost once a year. (Half the time it was suicide in the parking lot) i never worked at fast food, but i have worked at grocery and nothing there or at McDonald's should compare to the kind of hard labor that permanently damaged my back at 19 years old. The whining over it is astounding
Both put you in an ambulance so...
Fast food isn’t a career and trying to make it one will only backfire (automating workers positions). Get a skill, trade or craft and make yourself worthwhile, if children can do your job you don’t deserve higher pay.
How about cut back on taxes?
@Sambob, how dare you use common sense in 2019!
See raising the minimum to 15 dollars an hour wont do sh!t. All that will happen is that companies jack up costs so that 15 dollars is worth the same as 7:50 before and no progress will be made. I suggest we do as japan does. Close the borders completely. If companies want to operate in the american market they have to deal with americans and not the slaves they import from the south americas. With the dwindling population means that the corporations will have to compete with one another for workers, instead of the workers competing for the corporation. Thus driving up the amount of the profite the company has to give to the workers.
We should all be happy making minimum wage because we’ll increase the stock price for our corporate masters but through their benevolence we’ll get paid back through the increase in value of our 401K “retirement” plans which are invested in the stock market. People who want a living wage are just being selfish and greedy. The 1% will look out for us working stiffs. (If there was a sarcasm emoji, I’d put it here.)
@Negamanee, the 1% in charge of the wealth in a socialist government would do 10x the harm than any corporation could