Speaking as an illegal alien himself...
There have been statements, by the media especially, that certain people and political parties think all Muslims are terrorists and should be eradicated. When the truth is that is not the case, while there are individuals that think this way not all people do. I am not worried about Muslims, I am worried about the percentage of Islam that are radical Islamic terrorists and support radical Islamic terrorism. I myself am a Christian, if I meet a Muslim I will treat them no differently than anyone else. But if a Muslim agrees and cheers for a terrorist organization like The Islamic State (ISIS), don't you think that's a problem
@Agent Fox Mulder, THANK YOU I LOVE YOU SO MICH RIGHT NOW
@Agent Fox Mulder, *MUCH
@Agent Fox Mulder, if they say they are a muslim, but aren't a terrorist, they aren't following their religion.
@Agent Fox Mulder, www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
@Cpzombie, any historical text is open to interpretation, and Muslims believe in the same God as Christians and Jews. Only radical Muslims have beef with anyone who isn't, and more of their practices don't follow Muslim beliefs, Islam encourages learning, and a half sort of equality
@irishdude, check link. It has historical context.
@Cpzombie, that website Mis quotes the text. It pulls things out of context and twists them to fit their agenda. That's exactly what Isis is doing, using these misquotes as fodder to brainwash people. If you're going to try and quote something read 5 lines before and after and add the context for which it was said, or else you're no better than those inhumane scum.
@Cpzombie, if you say you're a Christian but aren't stoning adulterers and gays, you aren't following your religion.
@Agent Fox Mulder, a nice Muslim stopped me in Romford high street yesterday and gave me a free copy of the Quran (in English) we had quite a nice chat,
I even said something that could have been taken as an insult about his prophets,
he was quite friendly and I didn't have any worries about him detonating an exploding vest, I just think there are lunatics out there of all religions and of none, but thankfully sensible people outnumber the lunatics
@Cpzombie, the same thing could be said about other religious too, regardless of religion the average person isn't going to kill anyone
@DaddyWurzel, if they were raised to follow their holy book completely, they would.
@Cpzombie, of course, if they followed it. But I doubt they all really believe it, lots of people just say they are religious just so they don't disappoint their parents, it's only the looneys that are easily brainwashed into thinking a god would want someone to kill for him.
I'm sure if there is a god it's not going to be the one from any holy book, otherwise God would be powerful enough to to do his own killing.
It's pretty obvious that if there is a god, he/she can't actually do anything to intervene with evil doings on earth, God would stop pedo priests, would have stopped the holocaust, amongst many other things, but instead does nothing, nothing at all, not a thing, wouldn't hurt to pop his head out the clouds once every decade and check up on things down here would it?
@Cpzombie, I swear there was a quote in the Holy Qur'an about being peaceful or else you're not acting in a way that Allah would like. Something like that.
@Fantabulous Toaster, www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
@Cpzombie, nice copy-and-paste. Sigh, guess I'll read it then...
@Cpzombie, ladies and gentlemen, hatemongering. Visited the website and it's very one-sided; although it DOES say that Europeans such as myself are foolish for letting Muslims in. On the other hand (mainly so I can't be called a hypocrite), it has some interesting facts on the real extremists- even if they are accompanied by views that I, personally, do not abide with.
@pofateto, I would love to stone adulterers and gays, but sadly, Jesus gave his life on the cross to forgive us for our sins.
@Fun Facts 101, Jesus exists in the Qur'an
@pofateto, did you know Han Solo exists in the star wars movies? Cool huh?
@Fun Facts 101, your religion is false like all other religions, your abhorrent belief that you're better than someone because of the invisible king you follow is the reason atrocities happen. When your parents die and you achieve the ability to think for yourself we may have an intelligent discussion. I will wait here until then.
@pofateto, ahaa, that's a great impression of an adolescent child hiding behind a wall of unreasonable slander and insults towards someone's religion. And are you saying telling me your parents died and you're mad at God or something? Would you like to talk this out like big boys do?
@Cpzombie, the Old Testament says to stone adulterers but do Christians and Jews do that?
@DaddyWurzel, most religions teach that God gave humans free will and that God tells us what to do and how to live but that it is up to us to do the right thing
@pofateto, technically Christians aren't bound to the old Judaic law, for one to be a good Christian all he really has to do is put others before himself. Unfortunately most still aren't good at that, myself being no exception.
@new username 1, again, Christians are not bound to Old Testament law.
@jklyt1, Ten Commandments and there are still fundamentalists that believe the earth is only 10,000 years old
@new username 1, ya well anyone who honestly believes the Earth is 10,000 years old is a moron regardless of religion. And the whole point of Christ dying was the free humans from the law, the Ten Commandments were written way before the birth of Christ.
@jklyt1, still the Ten Commandments are taught to be followed by basically all Christian faiths
@Cpzombie, does anyone follow any religion to a T? The ones that do are the fundamentalist nut jobs.
@big freedom, and according to their own books, they are all going to hell.
@new username 1, there's a lot of things churches do that have nothing to do with what Jesus taught. But I don't really attend church anymore so I don't care what they do lol
@Agent Fox Mulder, do you consider the planned parenthood attacker to be a terrorist? If so why aren't we addressing that problem when mass shooters have killed more people (especially in America~ with no ties to the Islamic state) that terrorists who did have ties did?
@jklyt1, Jesus said in the bible at least 12 times that all the old rules had to be followed, there's bound to be other contradictory quotes in there but it wouldn't be a holy book with contradictions and lies
@Agent Fox Mulder, there is 1 billion Muslims in the world. Isis has an estimated 500,000 people in their organization. Radical Muslims in Isis make up 0.005% of Muslims. Don't worry about the percentage, it is very low. It would make sense to worry about Muslims though because they face Islamophobia because of radicals that don't represent their religion in any sense.
@Shaygirgenti, When it comes to the recent planned parenthood shooting I do not consider it an act of terrorism. The reason why being that the shootout started a few buildings down and yes the shooter then made his way into planned parenthood, but I believe it was only it of convenience. If it was any other building he probably would have still been held up in there having a stand off with police. Also since I investigated the story yesterday there hasn't been any motive released. Finally, while I may disagree with planned parenthood I would never wish any harm to the employees of that company. I hope that can kind of answer your question. God bless.
@SterIing Archer, That is where I must disagree, while I do feel for the Muslims being misrepresented by radicals in their religion, that .005 percent practically shut down Paris a few weeks ago. Through out the centuries there have been plenty of twisted cults that have done terrible things in the name of God, the KKK for example. Even though they were a small percentage of the south they still did plenty of murdering and lynching in the name God. Now I am sure it was worrying as someone who saw how evil they were to see people talk about them like they were heroes, heck maybe even talk about joining them. That is exactly what is happening across the world, Muslims are cheering for ISIS, not only Muslims but people around the world are trying to join ISIS, a branded terrorist organization. So with all do respect I don't think it matters if ISIS is only 0.005% of Muslims, those are the ones that are killing Muslims and Christians alike in horrendous public displays.
@Agent Fox Mulder, Thank you for the conversation I enjoy conversing with different viewpoints on various subjects. I ran out of room, but have as good one and God bless.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that was in a school in the '50s. But if so, that's heartwarming :)
@Dr Rick Sanchez, I can! I the children aren't all different ethnicities!!! #Triggered
1950's Superman: Unless they're gay, we can't have that in America
@iplaybassoon , but if superman doesn't support gays why does he wear those scandalous underwear over his tights?
@thabeef57, for the ladies
@iplaybassoon , or a communist
WARNING: there is political arguments going on in the comments, you have been warned.
There is no "good."
There is no "evil."
No one can be "pure evil."
Nor can anyone be "pure good."
Nothing can truly be black and white.
I really need to find my glasses.
@Breadbeard, you've obviously never had someone jump in the lunch queue before pushing a whole group of fellow students into a wall. That lil twat just booked themselves a one-way ticket to Hell, religious or not.
Still, glasses can be expensive!
@Fantabulous Toaster, what tf is a queue...
@TheBeardofOden, a queue is a line. You probably should just use Google next time instead of making yourself look like a dumbass
@jklyt1, or you could not be a d1ck
@TheBeardofOden, I saw the way you acted up there, you made all of Christianity look like dicks so I don't give a fuuuuuuuuck.
@jklyt1, How on earth did I make Christianity look lick a bunch of d1cks, all I said was 25% of Islamics are terrorists, that's a facts. All I was doing the whole time was stating facts.
@TheBeardofOden, when representing Christ your job is not to condemn or make others look bad. When speaking behalf of Him your job is simply to love and treat others better than you would want to be treated. You did none of that.
@jklyt1, Since when is voicing my opinion treating others bad? I would like you to send me a screenshot of everytime I said something bad about someone else other than the Muslims. 432-940-7255
@TheBeardofOden, where did you get these "facts" from? I feel like you don't actually know what a fact is. Post the link where you read that 25% of Muslims are terrorists
@TheBeardofOden, also, how fvcking old are you? You write like a 8 year old, but even I knew what a queue was at 8
@gmastern1996, I grew up in a town that was straight hicks, my parents didn't enroll me in school until 7 years old, I live in Texas where the only thing I hear about Europe are the terroristic attacks. Would you kindly shut your fvcking mouth.
@TheBeardofOden, weird because I live in Texas too, and I don't appreciate you using that as an excuse for having poor grammar/world-views.
@gmastern1996, same, people think Texans are ignorant and dumb as is. I would appreciate it if this guy would enable them thinking so.
@TheBeardofOden, I was gonna say a queue is a line in England like jam is jelly in America, but jklyt1 did a pretty good job of it 😳
@TheBeardofOden, it's always weird to hear about other places and what they think of us. English speakers get surrounded by all types of music, news and history- and even if I don't have a damn clue about anyone in the Civil War (it's not on the English history syllabus) I know it was two sides fighting to keep or get rid of slavery (?).
Anyways, point being that if I ever lived anywhere other than England culture shock might kill me.
@Fantabulous Toaster, maybe that's what all the fuss was about, all the true Christians wanted slaves because God said it was ok to keep foreigners as slaves.
Personally I don't think it's ok to keep slaves, I think God was being a c***
@DaddyWurzel, I'd have to agree with you there
@Fantabulous Toaster, well that one person that agrees with me... Shame about the other few billion lol
@DaddyWurzel, ehh, I'm the sort of person who picks out the compliment in the backhanded insult. I don't let things bother me that often.
@Fantabulous Toaster, same, I don't think I'd be personally offended by anything
@DaddyWurzel, I might be, but only if it's 100% malicious. Then pray to your deitys and write a will, cause a storm is a-brewing! Hell hath no fury like a toaster scorned...
@Fantabulous Toaster, I don't get it with all the "I'm offended by that" stuff, what if I was offended by potatoes, does that mean no one can talk about potatoes or eat potatoes near me?
I've been on funny pics for the last 30 minutes hiding in the church/school bathroom when the automatic lights turned off and I almost slipped in the toilet. How is your morning going FP?
I feel like this was submitted and posted in response to a certain person, I'm not mentioning any names, that is running for president.
@Praise Satin, Did that person recently suggest registering all Muslims, a little like a certain someone else in a different country decided to register all Jews?
@Praise Satin, Donald J. Trump, but 90% of the users on this app don't realize that Donald J. Trumps immigration is one of the greatest documents since the Magna Carta, and while y'all are focusing on what might happen, because he isn't elected yet, I haven't seen one mention of Barack Obama. How about the fact that mister Obama is letting 60,000 Syrian refugees in the country? How about the fact that Islam makes up 1.8 billion of the entire population of earth and 25% of those are extremists who would blow up themselves and 100s of others for no reason but for a false god. That 25% is about 300,000,000, about the population of the U.S. And Obama is gladly letting in all these refugees knowing all this. How about we focus on what's important.
@Praise Satin, why the fvck do people keep bringing up trump and hillary? NEITHER OF THEM ARE GONNA GET ELECTED EVER NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!! GEORGE BUSH HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING A 3RD TERM THAN THEM GETTING ELECTED!
@TheBeardofOden, It sounds like you disagree with Superman here ;)
@Harry Potthead, Last time I checked, Donald trump has been leading the polls since the start of election time. Shut your mouth.
@TheBeardofOden, I recognize that I can't change your opinion on helping refugees. But I genuinely hope your God is real so you can answer to him why you think condemning thousands of immigrants to death makes you better than a suicide bomber, who at most kills hundreds
@TheBeardofOden, Romney was leading the polls this time around last election.
@TheBeardofOden, why does their religion matter? The Planned Parenthood shooting was done by a white Christian man. Should we deport all white guys because of various shootings?
@TheBeardofOden, there is a college that predicts the results of the primaries , and has a 100% accuracy rate, despite in the past have predicted tthe underdog to win. It's important to note their process uses countless means of data, calculations and historical reference . They predicted Bernie Sanders would win.
Also. Not sure who told you Donald Trump was leading, but that's not true.
@Harry Potthead, Well, Romney also won the nomination, so that's actually a good sign for Trump.
@TheBeardofOden, "False god"
@TheBeardofOden, at this point in 2012 Herman Cain was leading in the polls. At this point in 2008 Hillary was above Obama. There's a year to go stfu
@TheBeardofOden, EDIT: Misinterpretation. Donald Trump is leading the polls, but these aren't accurate, as the polls only include a small number of people. It's the equivalent of making a survey of what's the best fast food restaurant using only 10000 people, which doesn't even include burger king.
@CriTiKa1, politicians 101: unless you get elected, you failed.
@Praise Satin, Trump, you're fired.
@TheBeardofOden, what a duma$$. I wont even bother arguing with you if you reply, because arguing with an idiot will only prove that there's two.
@Harry Potthead, go 3rd term bush
@Casual Mad Scientist, what college is that? That study sounds really interesting
@CriTiKa1, lol yeah now we get into the real heart of the problem. He doesn't like the fact that others are a different religion than him
@Dr Rick Sanchez, Speaking politically, not religously, why is it so important for america to take in these refugees, but not equally important to go kill isis and stop the refugee crisis? And before you say it can't be done, need I remind everyone that ghangis khan obliterated the last major califate...
@TheBeardofOden, your numbers are so flawed it's humorous, if 25% of Muslims were proud terrorists the U.S. would already be done for.... I wish you luck though.
@D0N RAM0N, HAHA oh Herman Cain. What a delightful fellow.
@Harry Potthead, boy will you be surprised when President Clinton takes office. I don't personally want Hillary Clinton to win but we've all known since pretty much 2012 that she's going to win. First, Republican candidates can no longer win the presidency in this country anymore. That was made abundantly clear in 2012 when the perfect Republican candidate lost, and by a lot. (this by the way is one of the reasons why the Republican party is in turmoil right now). So yea, whether we like it or not Clinton is gonna win. Not really a point arguing about it. Just wait till 2016 and you'll see.
@Dr Rick Sanchez, I'm not at all condemning these refugees, I'm praying for a better way for them to find refuge, I'm not trying to start and argument either, I'm also praying protection over them and the funny pics fam, God bless.
@BunnyGruff, and Romney is not even close to the perfect republican candidate. Not.even. close.
@BunnyGruff, WHAT IF I TOLD YOU HILLARY ISNT THE ONLY DEMOCRAT IN THE RUNNING? FVCKIN SHOCKER RIGHT?
@TheBeardofOden, and here folks we have a perfect example of a dimwitted Trump supporter. I wonder if you guys even listen to what you're saying. Maybe you think fact checking is for losers? It's not. If you say something without checking to make sure it's a fact first, you're going to look like an idiot. Sources being scientific journals and people that have a PhD in that field. So for the religious aspect of it, your local pastor and would be the worst source. A religious scholar with a doctorate would be the person you'd wanna ask, not some website. If you asked this doctor of religious studies, one of the first things he'll probably tell you is Muslims believe in the same God as Christians and Jews. Religion and God sometimes are bundled together, but this time that is not the case. The way these three religions 'practice' their faith is different, but if you look at a history book (in the north, history books are often adulterated in the south, sorry) you'll find God is the same
@ Strider2k, Solid question. (Long answer.) Surprising to many people, immigration is a surefire boost to an economy. They don't "took er jerbs!" they take lower level jobs, allowing more salaried jobs to exist. I study econ, and it's just a verifiable fact. So we should selfishly hoard immigrants. Also, no politics or religion: there are human beings being hunted and slaughtered. We can't just hope someone else takes care of them. Every country should pitch in to save them. (And we aren't starting a war with ISIS bc of how complicated it is. They formed as a direct result of the US warring with the taliban. The taliban formed bc Russia intervened to defeat the contemporary Middle Eastern forces. I'm kind of for attacking them, but the repercussions could be worse. It's a harder issue for either of us to tackle)
@TheBeardofOden, Oh no, you're not condemning them. You just don't want them to get to somewhere where they can be safe and keep their families safe. You want them to stay in Syria and get caught in the crossfire. But you're praying for them so it's okay.
@BunnyGruff, Allah and God are two different things. Allah is a god that is for destruction of those opposed to him, while God is a God who only loves and not one time in the bible will you see God saying, kill those opposed to me. Don't ever talk about my God as something common because my God is not a common God. And yeah I am a supporter of trump because if he can be one of the richest men of the world, he sure as hell will fix the finance mess that mister Obama has created.
@TheBeardofOden, Ahem, "The man who acts presumptuously by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the LORD your God, nor to the judge, that man shall die; thus you shall purge the evil from Israel." - Deuteronomy 17:12.
Allah is God, they are the same beings. Your God has sentenced thousands of people to death in the Bible.
@Dr Rick Sanchez, Economical argument is moot. I don't even study econ and I know from life experience that "immigrants take our jobs" is false. But you didn't really answer the question. Why should we help the bloodied refugees by giving them a new home, but not stop them getting bloodied in the first place? ISIS can be stopped, but most people refuse to take those steps, rather, we prefer to let ISIS scratch out a home for themselves over there, and encourage the mass migration of an entire group of people. If america was having this problem, would we be content if Canada and Mexico just gave us a new home, or would we want our own home to be liberated for us?
@Dr Rick Sanchez, I'm pretty much all for letting refugees in but the problem is that extremist groups like Isis are going to use it to get people in. Who knows the damage they could do
@CriTiKa1, I'm not tryna get blow up and I've looked at enough statistics and watched videos of professors debating this subject to know that's a large chunk of Muslims are extremists and will gladly blow themselves up to be glorified when they will be damned to hell. I'm done arguing because y'all are obviously to ignorant to understand the dangers of letting in this many refugees. God bless.
@TheBeardofOden, through history, many have died because of your God. Trump has also declared bankruptcy multiple times, and is a total and complete idiot.
@CriTiKa1, nobody still follows the Old Testament completely though. Terrorists follow the Quran.
@TheBeardofOden, Haha, you're not going to address the passage from Deuteronomy that clearly showed God sentencing people to death for not agreeing with him?
@TheBeardofOden, I'm a bit lazy. Can someone give him bible refererences where God commands his people to kill every man, woman, and child in places they invade? And Quran references saying Allah condemns murder and that the Angels tally up good points for maintaining peace?
@TheBeardofOden, I wish I was swallowed so I wouldn't have been born to read your comments.
@CriTiKa1, Ignorance isn't always bliss. My God sentenced many to a spiritual death, some physical, but the people he sentenced to death were people that deserved to because they were killing his people or tormenting for no reason, but there was always a chance given before death was indicted. God sent Moses to Pharoah seven times to give him a chance to stop tormenting his people, Pharoah never stopped so he killed his son. He never told one person to kill someone for just not believing in him, there was always a reason deeper than that. And if there was someone that deserves death, God would do the kill the person himself, but like I said, there was always a reason.
@Cpzombie, Excuse me? The Old Testament is based completely off of the Tanakh, which Judaism still follows extremely closely.
@Swayman310, like a Trojan horse
@TheBeardofOden, There, now we're both in agreement that Allah and God are the same, since they both have good reasons to send people to death.
@Casual Mad Scientist, I so hope they are wrong. There's no space to argue the pros and cons of Bernie here but my gosh we need to get our head's or of our idealist butts. And don't go jumping on me saying I'm just some gung ho Republican bc I'm not
@TayJee, I would like a link to the bullshlt article that told you this.
@CriTiKa1, dank input has been given
@CriTiKa1, if that was so, they would be stoning people to death.
@CriTiKa1, all of those are just so peaceful :D
@Cpzombie, I mean, they've been doing much worst to the Palestinians over the past few decades.
@TheBeardofOden, if you meet one idiot in the day, they are an idiot. If you meet many idiots in the day, the probability is, you're the idiot.
@TheBeardofOden, his companies have literally declared bankruptcy 4 times, accumulating over $2billion in debt all together. He certainly isn't 100% at fault, but he is definitely not blameless.
@TayJee, no ones perfect, but some people are dam near to it
@TheBeardofOden, just saying you can't hold him up to be some financial genius.
@TheBeardofOden, and you just sinned. Nice work.
@TayJee, He has more money than everyone on this app combined, I consider him a very wise man with his money.
@TheMonkeyGod, Where in the bible does it say sarcasm is a sin?
@TheBeardofOden, he was also given everything by his mega rich father. Trump ain't self made.
@TheBeardofOden, I hope you know this, you seem to not, but Muslims and Christians and Jews all believe in the same God, each religion has different beliefs and practices but still, same God.
@Dr Rick Sanchez, what on earth are you talking about??! How the hell does not taking in these immigrants condemn them to death... Trick question , it doesn't!
@irishdude, No, you're wrong, I have physical proof of my God, Jews believe in the same God as I, I know this because I've had many Messianic Jewish Rabbis speak at my church, I've practiced many Jewish ceremonies, they read to Torah, which is the first five books of the bible along with the rest of the old testament, Jesus was in fact a Jew, Allan is a completely different God, he just a present day Baal, a False idol, and you saying my God is the same is Allah is a blaspheme.
@Handless Juggler , trump never said that, the media made it up....look up the entire quote for yourself.
@TheBeardofOden, please leave the Internet, forever. No one has time for your racist disregard for human life and decency.
@TayJee, he was given a loan for 1 million. He is now worth over 10 billion. That means he was given less than 0.01%
@TheBeardofOden, you are absolutely right. I can't believe you're getting down voted into oblivion for voicing your opinions which make sense and are viable arguments. My apologies on behalf of the FP community.
@TheBeardofOden, the fact is, there is no definitive evidence for or against God, I, myself am a Christian, I believe in one God, a Muslim, follows Islam, and believes in one God, leaders of the Christian, Jewish and Muslim faiths have come to an agreement, that it is more than probable that Mohammed, discovered the one true God, the same one you and I believe in, while meditating, a form of prayer. Islam is the second most followed religion in the world, with 1.8 billion followers, if all of them were jihadists we would have been wiped off the map long ago. If we don't let refugees in the terrorists have accomplished one of their goals. They want to strike fear into the hearts of those who are not Muslim, and if we keep out innocent refugees we show we are afraid. We, as a country must flip the Islamic state a double bird and open the gates to refugees. I'm not saying we should let all of them in without thought, background checks will be needed, but to deny them safety is wrong
@Casual Mad Scientist, lol, what college is that? The fake made up one...
Even if it exists, how long have they been predicting? I know they didn't predict 1980, because nobody predicted Reagan winning (the polls had him loosing to carter until less than a week from the election.)
@The smell of pubes, They're not... immigrants... Y'know what refugees are, right? They have no food or shelter. They're refugees cause people are trying to kill them
@irishdude, please stop blessing me, I don't want it. If you keep saying god bless, I'll have to start saying "nothing bless" at the end of my posts
Romney was the perfect candidate, hahahaha!!! Where'd you hear that? He was the "perfect" candidate if you were running against him.
Almost 5 million republicans didn't vote for Romney. If they had, he would have won. If Romney had received as many votes as McCain received, he would have beaten Obama with over 55% of the vote.
Hell, many political scientists now give the edge to a republican candidate. Because major planks of the democrat platform are losing issues for them. 62% agree with building a wall, 64% want to stop Syrian refugees, climate change is only important to like 5% of Americans, while terrorism and the economy are the big issues. Trump is the candidate most trusted to deal with the economy (a staggering 63% of all Americans pick him).
@Dr Rick Sanchez, but because of bad reputation from the extremists, a lot of people along with me discourage the letting in of all these refugees
@Bomb The Russians, thank you so much, you're the one response I was looking for in all this
@Agent Fox Mulder, exactly!!! Props to you
@Dr Rick Sanchez, I'm glad they are being helped, but don't pull the guilt trip card.
@CriTiKa1, ya, for people who are actually muslim, it wouldn't be a false god.
@CriTiKa1, yep all the same god, just slight variations on the name, Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, all pretty similar really
@TheBeardofOden, well at least blasphemy is victimless
@Dr Rick Sanchez, wow, so someone who actively murders, is as bad as someone whom won't risk his family to save some one else. OK nice logic
@Cabbage Salesman, i don't have a racist disregard for human life, I have an intolerance for idiocy
@DaddyWurzel, false, the who blasphemes is victim to himself.
@gmastern1996, God bless
@TheBeardofOden, oh yes, I remember, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the only sin that can't be forgiven.
@TheBeardofOden, what a shame, it's hell for me then,
still... At least it's warm all year
@DaddyWurzel, repentance = acceptance my friend
@TheBeardofOden, cool, how do I do that?
@TheBeardofOden, oh I'm sorry I wasn't aware you knew what God wanted. My mistake the rest of us humans have no idea, but you must be God's God because you know such information. (I'm joking by the way, don't actually think you're God, I feel like I'd have to make that clear for you) but in reality no one knows what God wants. People can only assume. That's on the human side of it. The first people to start believeing in God were actually the Jews. Then we adopted the Jewish God. And then in the end the Muslims finally adopted that same God. It doesn't matter what the people believe this God wants, sure they can go around assuming, but that doesn't change the entity of God which is the same for all three. There's no question about that. Allah is the Arabic word for God. Essentially you're just insulting God so good job. Also by that logic, why wouldn't you support Bill Gates if he ran for president? Because he's not a bigot like you and Trump?
@DaddyWurzel, It's nothing special, start read the proverbs day by day, go to your local church, ask if your pastor can help you pray to accept Christ in your heart, then all you have to do after that is just read your bible and pray, it's doesn't have to be some fancy long drawn out prayer, maybe just a thanks God or something like that, and you don't have to read your bible every minute of everyday, maybe even just a verse a day
@TheBeardofOden, I've already read the entire bible years ago, so will the going to church, praying, and accepting Christ into my heart get me into heaven even if I didn't believe in God or Jesus?
@DaddyWurzel, Well you have to believe in order to accept Christ into your heart. Now let me ask you this. When you were reading the bible, to you read the context? Or were you just reading the text, because there's a huge difference in reading and recieving
@TheBeardofOden, the one response you were looking for in all this. Sounds like you're ignoring overwhelming evidence against your ideas in favor of a comfortable lie.
@TheBeardofOden, well that's not fair, I have to burn in hell for all eternity because I don't believe the bible, oh well.
I read it in the same way I read Lord Of The Rings, I enjoyed them both but in all fairness LOTR was a little more believable
@Ryzzmac, the only evidence I've seen is those who make up things based on hints of things they've heard. Ill believe what I choose to put my faith in and you can do the same. My argument is valid and so are theirs, I'll choose what I want to put my faith in
@DaddyWurzel, Alright, that's fine, just trying to help, I'll believe what I want to believe and you can choose what you want to believe but I'm not gonna sit here and try to force anything on you
@TheBeardofOden, my argument is shutting out immigrants because of religion and quoting ridiculous numbers like 25% of all Muslims are terrorists is unfair to the those people. Did you know 90% of all Christians are outwardly violent?
@TheBeardofOden, Islam was created by Ishmael, Abraham's first born son. Ishmael worshipped the same God as his brother, but since he was exiled into the desert with his mother, he created a religion separate from Judaism, which is Islam. There's your proof that Allah and your God are the same. Of course this all bullshjt, since all gods are false gods.
@TheBeardofOden, oh sorry, I thought you were just joking around too, I saw your username and thought it was a sure thing
@CriTiKa1, You think I don't know this? He started worshipping a different deity that was separate from the one Abraham worshipped, Allah is a present day Baal, and may I remind you that Abraham disproved the existence of Baal by summoning fire from God to light soggy logs of wood. Your argument is invalid sir.
@TheBeardofOden, the reason so many people are arguing with you is because you're saying a lot of hateful things. Everyone has their objections, but a polite person would keep it to themselves instead of supporting someone who calls an entire nation of people rapists...
@Ryzzmac, When have Christians ever instigated a terroristic attack such as the twin towers or the more recent Paris attacks, I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.
@BunnyGruff, WHEN DID THOSE WORDS EVER COME OUT OF MY MOUTH, IM SIMPLY STATING FACTS, I NEVER SAID THE ENTIRE NATIONALITY OF ISLAMICS ARE RAPIST I SAID 25% ARE EXTERMISTS AND THAT IS A PROVEN FACT
@DaddyWurzel, I like studying Greek mythology, but it doesn't mean I believe it. I also like Anchorman.
@BunnyGruff, This is why I don't like starting debates with ignorant people.
@TheBeardofOden, trump is leading the race for republican candidate. And your statistics are a little off.
@TheBeardofOden, I like Star Wars and Nintendo
@DaddyWurzel, I like your mom
@Praise Satin, excuse me
@TheBeardofOden, me too
@TheBeardofOden, I've never met your Mum so I can't comment, but most are nice really.
@TheBeardofOden, I dunno, the Magna Carta was the start of human rights. It was baby steps, but peasants getting their king to give some power away was a big thing. Donald Trump? Until we get him to lose his hair and actually change/murder the entire population of Mexico, I'll sit at home and drink tea with a Jammy Dodger.
@TheBeardofOden, it says capping people an idiot is...
@TheMonkeyGod, It says nothing against sarcasm. I don't know how to capp someone
@TheBeardofOden, put a hat on them. *calling. Oh and if we are too get picky on spelling you suggested Muslims worship Allan earlier. I found that funny. Thought of people chanting "Allan, Allan..."
@TheMonkeyGod, That's actually really funny 😂
@Dr Rick Sanchez, there's nothing wrong with immigrants. But them coming over here by the truck full illegally and with contraband should be punished. Not rewarded.
@Fantabulous Toaster, hi, not a trump supporter here, but I think you misunderstand what most republican/conservation people want. We don't want to create a new holocaust for Mexicans, or really even build a big wall. That's more of just Trump. What we want, are LEGAL immigrants. America is a beautiful country that accepts everyone regardless of color or language. But they need to be documented. Yeah, it's not 100% fair for everyone, but is life fair to you? To anyone? We have to take the bad with the good.
@Fun Facts 101, We're talking about refugees not immigrants, cause it's a totally different situation with them, hopefully you can agree.
But, I would reccommend a quick look into our immigration policies. I used to be on the other side of the issue, cause by name, they're "illegal." But it is nearly impossible for a Mexican to enter the US legally, even then, it's with a 10 year wait time. All they want to do is live the American dream. They love our country and until it is possible to enter legally, I understand them breaking in. It's badass here
@Dr Rick Sanchez, yes, the immigration system is a mess, and that's the great american governments fault. Our government is falling apart, and corrupted way beyond what it should be, and is well over date for a reboot. But, I do notice a very large amount of talk about immigration. And if the refugees do not have legal documentation, does that not make them an immigrant? And why are they refugees in the first place?
@Fun Facts 101, okay, good point. I don't even remember typing that comment because I was probably fired up about the whole racism debate- and so, I apologise. I live in England (if you couldn't tell by the tea and biccits) so I know more about our politics ( grrr, Michael Gove)...
@DaddyWurzel, you really haven't met my mum have you
@Fun Facts 101, Valid question. They do have documentation. Actually, it's a pretty arduous vetting process. They go through 4 gov agencies to check their backgrounds (a counter-terrorist measure). So even they have to fight some beaurocracy to get here.
And (I think) what classifies them as refugees is that they are people without a country. If they return to Syria, they'll be killed, so they have no home. I think that makes them refugees, rather than immigrants from one place to another
@Dr Rick Sanchez, well, I looked up information about the refugees, and they seem to all be young men. Not a lot, if hardly any, women or children. I'm not one to tell conspiracy, but you can't be too careful if it's your life or others in jeopardy. I'm not saying let them die, I'd just be cautious.
@Harry Potthead, I'd take George Bush right now if I wasn't afraid he would invade the wrong country again. I mean he handled the whole Islam thing much better than any leaders are today, but no one seems to remember that.
@TheBeardofOden, If it make you feel better, I support a lot of what you're saying. Not everything, but a lot of it. I wouldn't suggest trying to argue with daddywurzel, he, like a lot of the active atheists on this app, will just try to make you angry. There's a passage in the bible saying to have nothing to do with people like him.
@TheBeardofOden, I just re read this. You said one of the greatest documents since the Magna Carta? Let's set the refuge situation aside, and tackle another subject. Bernie sanders is wanting to spend $10 billion a year to make college tuition, healthcare, and things of that sort free. Now, that sounds expensive, right? Trump, on the other hand, wants to spend $30 billion-I'm not sure if that's yearly but it could be-building a wall on the southern border. As a comparison to both of these prices, the US already spends roughly $172 billion each year on defense, and I believe the military budget, if it's separate, is much higher. Trump is not worth voting for. Another thing to mention, involving him. A while back, two men in Boston assaulted, pissed on, and beat up a homeless Hispanic man while he was sleeping. The smashed his face in with a metal pipe. Then, after being arrested, they pissed in and defecated their jail cells in protest, saying they committed the act for Trump. (1/2)
@TheBeardofOden, (2/2) When this was brought to his attention in a press conference, trump chuckled and said they were strong in their beliefs. He didn't show any remorse or disgust that they committed a crime against a human being, but rather condoned them and passed it off with the same attitude that people have with rapists-aka boys will be boys. Is that who you truly want to represent the free world? That man is who you want to lead our country?
@Praise Satin, Okay but did Trump walk up to these guys and say beat the tar out of this guy? No. That's and invalid point right there. You compared Bernie sanders tuition fund plan to Trumps wall plan, those two things have zero in common and have nothing to do with each other because trump could just as well pay for tuitions and the wall at the same time. I just got done with a research paper regarding the immigration situation, I support immigration 100%, but what I don't support is letting foreigners, even the refugees, waltz into our country like we don't have standards to hold up. I support what trump is doing, he's preventing illegal immigrants, what he's doing is a valid and good thing. Legal immigrants are necessary for our country in many areas.
@ archiethesailor, That's why I just started joking around with him, one of my best friends is atheist, but the only reason we're still friends is because he was once a Christian and he's seen the miracles that I've seen, we're both vape gods lol, and we believe the exact same thing. If I had him join the app and start on this argument, he knows more on this than I do, he could rebuttal a lot better than I could.
@TheBeardofOden, no, I brought Bernie sanders up because of the price comparison. Therefore it is relevant. And no, he did not issue them to commit the crime. But he did not act on the news the right way. Obviously you didn't read it and comprehend where it said he basically passed it off, saying they were strong in their beliefs. He chuckled a bit. No, he didn't issue them to do it, but that bigot condoned them. Don't say it's not a point. Let's switch it around, if this happened four years ago but they did it for Obama, you'd be flipping shjt, right? Trump is NOT worth running this country. I'll admit, he's a damn fine business man, and he's made quite a name for himself at what he's done. But he does NOT belong in the Oval Office.
@Praise Satin, Okay if we're going to bring Bernie Sanders into this, we can recognize that he is a democratic socialist and no socialist should not under any circumstance be elected for that reason alone. If Bernie sanders we're do actually do what he's talking about doing (taking all boots off of the ground except for the U.S. And it's territories, the whole U.S. Would go under in less than two weeks of this event taking place. Bernie Sanders is a disgrace to America by saying these things but hey, if your down for becoming communist then vote for him, but he's an idiot and has no brains outside of what he thinks is a peaceful world. He's also an unstable 73 year old man who could collapse any given day.
@TheBeardofOden, maybe if you learned to read, I said you were supporting someone (Trump) who essentially called all Mexicans rapists. I wasn't even talking about Muslims, but he probably wants to put them into concentration camps.
@TheBeardofOden, don't like starting debates with ignorant people?? The worst part is you actually believe you're right. I would seriously recommend you prove everything you're saying with links to REPUTABLE SCIENTIFIC JOIRNALS and no one will question you. Then when you find they prove you wrong, you can either call scientific journals ignorant or call yourself ignorant and leave us out of it.
@TheBeardofOden, my god. You really are ignorant. You know what, vote for trump. I guarantee you that even if he gets in office, which he probably won't, he won't be there for long. With as many remarks as he's made, I won't be surprised how quick someone takes him out.
@BunnyGruff, Everything that I've said so far has come from either ny times, huffington post, cnn, or times news, I'm not gonna take the time to entertain such idiocy.
@BunnyGruff, either way what you said made no since, "Everyone has their own objections, but a pilot person would keep it to themselves instead of supporting someone who calls an entire nation of people racists." So I can either be quiet or stop supporting trump? Also, I would like the link to the direct quote of mister trump saying all Mexicans are rapists.
@Praise Satin, so you're telling me your basing your entire argument on the fact of some rude remarks trump has made instead of looking at the facts? That is ignorance. When trump takes office and becomes one of the greatest leaders this nation has ever seen, I'm coming straight to you, you ignorant bafoon
@TheBeardofOden, @BunnyGruff does have a point. Trump wants Muslims to wear ID badges that identify them, I believe, with the crescent and star of Islam. Does this sound familiar to you? Didn't a certain someone have this required by the Jews when he came into power in Germany about 60 years ago? Will Trump create another holocaust, possibly not. But there's no reason to identify people like that.
@Praise Satin, with the reputation that extremists have created for the entire race, I find it very necessary.
@TheBeardofOden, alrighty there, prick. Come get me, mother fvcker.
@Praise Satin, not my job, I don't care either way, it's a good concept
@TheBeardofOden, you shouldn't generalize though. It's called a logical fallacy for a reason
@NoWay007, good call
@TheBeardofOden, I respect your opinions, the biggest error I saw though is you said 1/4 of all muslims are extremist, that is not true from a global population scale, maybe you misinterpreted that from a different statistic?
@NoWay007, Those statistics came from this video( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s ), it was a global statistic I believe, but thank you for the positive argument, it means a lot to have someone that isn't just trying to argue
@TheBeardofOden, no problem. Arguing on the internet?!? Not my hobby haha. May you just type in the title and the uploader of the video? Can't click on links
@NoWay007, Brigitte Gabriel gives FANTASTIC answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly, that's the title, it's on YouTube
@TheBeardofOden, so far I watched up to the point where she makes the claim of the statistic. She didn't specifically say ISIS or any group like that. She said muslim extremists. That could mean a lot of things. Let me continue the video
@NoWay007, That's what I was referring to the whole time. Not specifically one group, but the extremists as a whole
@TheBeardofOden, I look up statistics though and the numbers I get are from 60 million to 200 million supporters of ISIS. This is nearer to 12%. This is from a search across google and with different articles
@NoWay007, and these are just supporters, doesn't mean they'd give their life, just their opinion
@TheBeardofOden, you think that literally happened?
@ archiethesailor, I've never tried to make anyone angry, I can't help it if you don't like the bible verses I've mentioned in the past,
and my opinion of saying Christianity is wrong is no different than your opinion that every other religion is wrong and you have the one "true" religion.
How fortunate for you, you should be pleased you are going to heaven, but you're leaving poor old me to go to hell.
@NoWay007, that's just Isis alone, and if their supporters a guarantee someone from Isis will find them and recruit them against their will, but that's my opinion
@DaddyWurzel, that last sentence proves his point. Maybe don't be dick, ever thought about that? Respect another's religion and they'll respect whatever you believe as long as neither of you try to force one religion (or lack thereof) on another.
@TheBeardofOden, it's only tongue-in-cheek, is only one religion free from criticism?
@DaddyWurzel, Not what I said, I said respect mine and I'll respect yours, but Muslims don't respect my religion so I'm not gonna respect theirs
@TheBeardofOden, religion can get my respect when it earns it
@DaddyWurzel, And I completely understand where you're coming from
@TheBeardofOden, I think it's been your wording that's been making everyone be hostile towards you. Your wording in one of your last comments sounds like you mean all muslims don't respect your religion
@NoWay007, I do say that because that's what the Quran enforces
@TheBeardofOden, no matter what books teach people though, it's actions that show the true intention of people in general as the statistics show it's only a minority that actually supports ISIS and an even less minority of them that will take action
@NoWay007, But I'm not only worried about Isis, I'm worried about the 30 million extremists around the world ready to kill themselves and hundreds of others to please their god
@TheBeardofOden, isis are terrorists. No more, no less. I will advise you that when you defend your opinions next time to replace the word "extremists" with "terrorists." I can see that's what you really need but with all this diction and rhetoric flying around it's to know what to call them but the word you are looking for is terrorist
@NoWay007, *mean not need
@NoWay007, I'll use whatever terminology I please
@TheBeardofOden, you want me to give you a direct link but you don't have the 'time' to 'entertain such idiocracy' when I ask for links?? Well then you can go fvck yourself. Trump is a dumbass and you quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. Are you listening to yourself when you say "it's a PROVEN FACT that 25% of..."?? Even I would go as far as to say it's a proven fact that Trump thinks all Mexicans are rapists, even tho he basically said that. For your statement to be a proven fact, someone would have to 100% know the thoughts of 1.8 billion people. That is currently impossible. So please don't throw words like proven and fact around when you clearly don't know what they mean...
@TheBeardofOden, look kid, there's a lot of good people on this app. And they're giving you way more respect than you deserve. I'm gonna stop that right here. You're dumb, you have been labeled. You have no respect for logic, facts, or reason. You blatantly inflate numbers when it suits you and ignore everything that proves you wrong. This is the very definition of ignorance. Considering you didn't even stop to apologize after it was brought up that your figure of 25% terrorists was more like 12% supporters, you're not worth this community's time or effort. Go troll somewhere else. And another thing. This country is run by people who have money. I'm just assuming here but I'm pretty sure you do not have it. This based off your seeming level of education which indicates an origin from a lower socioeconomic class. Don't worry, I went to school with the future wealthy people of this world and we certainly do NOT support Trump or ignorance. You will get a vote, for President sure, but
@TheBeardofOden, you will never have a lobbyist in Washington talking directly to Congressmen like we do. I'm sorry everyone, but that's just the way this world works, but you can rest assured that we're educated and we know what we're doing. It's just these dumbass Congressmen you people keep electing that have made it a little difficult these past few years, but that's nothing a little money can't fix, especially now that we've thrown away campaign finance laws into the garbage. So yea Oden, you can say whatever the fvck you want, but people like me decide your future, so you can rightly fvck off and eat what we give you.
@TheBeardofOden, you're only human. Whatever anyone says, whatever books, holy or not, say; whatever videos of politicians kissing a$$ say, make your own decision and that requires you to look at more than one source and see them for what they really are. That's all I will say. Keep doing you
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F*ck that. Let anyone express any opinion. You can't claim to have the freedom of expression when censorship is enforced by public institutions.
@Doctor Krieger, that's a fair point but it goes against the main rule of my moral code:
Don't be a dick. If you think it's hurtful, don't do it on purpose- or at least be willing to accept that some people get hurt by it, and explain why you chose to go ahead with it.
@Fantabulous Toaster, moral codes be damned! Morality is subjective and enforcing your morals onto others is tyranny. A person should be able to express any opinion they choose without limit.
@Doctor Krieger, I suppose so but that surely includes extremists? I understand freedom of speech but anti-social behaviour and hate crimes are still crimes. I think that, whilst you should have the right to say something, we should all have the right to call you a goddamn racist.
To whoever down voted this picture: that is very Un-American.
I thought all humans were the same race. Human.
Lmao lets all decide to keep our political opinions to ourselves because obviously we're all gonna disagree someway or another and were supposed to be a tight community, a family, if you will
@TheBeardofOden, you're that family member at thanksgiving who disagrees with the rest of the family and encourages fighting.
@TheBeardofOden, discussions are fun though
@Cpzombie, a real activity to stretch your brain and see the opinions of the other side
@Cpzombie, they are, aren't they ;)
@gmastern1996, why else would I have started this hullabaloo :) just wanted to see where everyone's stand is
@Gruncle Stan, Nah, I just wanted to voice my opinion and give everyone else and opportunity to voice theirs
So... only the Native Americans stay
I guess that makes all of us Un-American
@Steven Bills, Dude
@Steven Bills, You're so deep I can't even see you right now