Well, you insisted
If someone says "come back with a warrant" odds are they aren't that innocent
@Siska the Khajiit, what annoys me is the people who just make the police's job more difficult just out of principle
@Loadsamoney, To be fair, there are some situations where the police aren't supposed to be there. The warrant not only makes it official, it also guarantees that the that you are dealing with a real cop. These are only rare cases of course.
@Tentacle Monster, supernatural has taught me never to trust that a man in uniform is who he says he is.
@Tentacle Monster, while we're clearing up misinformation, police do not have to read you your Miranda rights when you're arrested, only when they're interrogating you and want to use that evidence it court
@Loadsamoney, No, not just out of principle. That's the rules, they need a warrant.
@Siska the Khajiit, I have had a police officer come to my house because someone who hates my family claimed we were doing illegal stuff (we were not). But the officer tried to bust in the second we opened the door to see who it was we stopped him and told him to get a warrant, and said you were not welcome in here until it is presented and read. Well he came back and apologized. So we let him in and made some dinner and he became a friend. It is about keeping the police from becoming too powerful.
@Siska the Khajiit, ehhh no. It's a right to privacy. Police don't need to be poking around for any unjustified reason.
@RiffRaff, I'm fine with cops coming in if they want. Make me something to eat, and hangout. I'm not doing anything illegal so why fear?
@Siska the Khajiit, ok flip that, instead of a cop, make it a complete stranger... You gonna let them in? Eh, probably not.
@RiffRaff, I don't know, maybe. If they don't look high or anything, I might. I'll talk for a few moments, and if they seem chill I'd invite him in
@Siska the Khajiit, because it's not unheard of for police (not all mind you) to plant evidence to justify a search. This is because in certain scenarios, the cop can have his ass handed to him for wasting time and rescources.
@50SEVEN, well, I'd hope that me putting trust in him will make that trust justified.
@Siska the Khajiit, you do realize cops are just regular humans, only in a uniform, and trained to see everyone as a criminal? Trust a cop the same way you would trust another person. Trusting someone doesn't justify trusting someone, that doesn't even make sense.
Now I'm not saying cops are bad, I've personally never had an issue with cops. However I do know they are human, but with much more power than me, and there is very little I can do if a cop goes rogue. A cop can be an upstanding hero one day, and a duck the next, just like everyone else.
@50SEVEN, well I guess so, maybe I'll make sure I at least ask why they are at my house, and if they don't answer, I'll ask they get a warrant
@Siska the Khajiit, that's a good middle ground, shows respect but also protects yourself. There is never anything wrong with protecting yourself.
@50SEVEN, safety first I guess
@Barry Dylan, except they don't need to with probable cause which any court of law will hold a phone call as probable cause, that said if they didn't immediately being in swat, it doesn't sound like you were reported for anything bad.
@Siska the Khajiit, do you have any cop friends? they will all tell you do not approve a search without a warrant
@Sniff my hole, no cop friends
@Loadsamoney, What annoys me, are people who give up their rights as citizens, and then expect other people to do the same.
@Barry Dylan, that was just Archer dressed up as a police officer
@The Megaton Bomb, I was told it was an anonymous tip, he claim we were running a child sweat shop at out house, and also I live in a rural setting so it was a sheriff.
@Barry Dylan, anonymous tips still qualify as probable cause, it's also likely he saw there was absolutely no sign that you had a sweat shop running and just left. Just my observation of what seems to have happened.
@The Megaton Bomb, does probable cause only apply to vehicules? He'd still need a warrant to search the house without the autorization from the person's living there
@Scientia estPotentia, it applies to all search seizure and arrests.
Well?? Did they come back with a warrant ????
I have a hard time finding the funny because I can't stand how militarized US police departments are becoming, sorry to be a party pooper. I just find it highly unnecessary.
@jklyt1, Considering how militarized drug cartels and terrorists are, I'm not surprised.
@CriTiKa1, I feel like if a gang or terrorist organization is sophisticated and strapped enough to warrant this kind of police force then you should just send the military after them. Military grade weapons should be operated with military grade precision.
@jklyt1, yes, but then we'd have the military doing stuff other than humanitarian aid/disaster control/relief within our borders. Not to say it doesn't happen already, but it's like how the CIA is for outside things and the FBI is for inside things. I like that there's a distinction, that we're not sending the force of the godd*mn U.S. military out to attack people (regardless of whether or not they deserve it) on U.S. soil, at least not with the regularity that police are dealing with cartels and local terrorists.
@Ruupasya, that's also what you have the national guard for, nothing justifies the spike in SWAT deployments this past decade or the fact that the current administration started selling military equipment to local police forces. I mean really what do the police need vehicles outfitted to withstand landmines for?
@jklyt1, true, but it's good for police forces to be prepared for SWAT or NG worthy issues because they're the first responders and they need to be able to end or contain a concern until more military-esque forces can arrive. I agree with some of your concerns, though.
@jklyt1, Letting the military operate within our borders like that is a slippery slope. If we let the government use the military as a police force in those cases, then they'll have to power to simply replace all law enforcement with the military. Same with the national guard, they aren't trained for law enforcement. I agree with you that SWAT has been over-deployed in the last few years, but they are still necessary.
@CriTiKa1, I don't think we should get rid of SWAT I just think a militarized police force is the same slippery slope as allowing the military to operate within the US.
@jklyt1, most of them cant cut it in the military and settle with police who'll take anyone
@jklyt1, well since police officers have started using military grade gear, deaths have decreased a lot, especially now when an AK-47 isnt to hard to come by on the streets if you are a gang member
@jklyt1, the Joker, duh.
It does not matter if you are innocent or guilty. If the police want to search your home they legally need a warrant.
I dont even need cops, their bullsht. I can defend and protect myself, if you cant do the same then youll learn the hard way pussis
@911wasstaged, You're the kind of person who think The Purge is an amazing concept until you're in it.
@Anonymous Jack III, i was in the military so id be good, real men can protect themselves, youd probably be dead if you were born anytime before the 1800s
And I suppose you're trained also to investigate crime and prosecute? God knows your there 24/7 to protect your loved ones so that nothing can happen to them, and there stopping drug crime, and stopping rape and stopping all other crime like someone randomly shooting you in the back... you're a grade A moron. You clearly don't think about full scenarios. You just think a criminal will announce themselves, good luck with that view. I honestly hope you never gave need for police. But if you do, maybe sometime you live gets kidnapped, just think about how little you need them before making the call hero.
Oh great how funny. Laugh at the terrible life decisions made to have your home invaded by law enforcement.
This isn't really funny when they come in at 4 in the morning tooled up like it's a war zone and shoot your dog in front of your kids, all for finding weed residue in your trash. #truestory
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