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@I Are Lebo, it's funny because she's fat
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@I Are Lebo, There is one video on YouTube that always makes me laugh: A girl fires a .50AE Desert Eagle, but forgot recoil existed. She then proceeds to get hit in the face by the handgun.
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@Issei Hyoudou, Dude, getting scoped is no fun. But yeah, definitely know what you're doing before you do it. The likely thing there is some jackass handed it to her and told her it wasn't that bad.
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@I Are Lebo, starting bid is 20$
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@Issei Hyoudou, I've seen it. Totally deserved. Natural consequences. I saw another one of a guy trying to fire a pump action shotgun holding it in one hand, fully outstretched arm. I'm sure he lost some teeth.
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And this is the only argument for gun control
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@The Hawks Eye, I'm actually most extreme gun regulations but now after seeing this i think that any bill for gun control can be passed through both houses unanimously citing this picture as the reason why. And quite frankly I'd have no counter argument.
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@HeroOfFunnypics, so punish all the responsible people because of few idiots?
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@RogueKnight, there are more than a few. Sad but true
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@The Hawks Eye, ....must....not....get...into...political....debate.....
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@Cobaltqube, fair enough. But when you have everyday items such as cars and knives which are used to kill more people, I don't get why the conversation is just about taking guns. It makes me believe that issue isn't really about saving lives. And there are plenty of counters to extreme gun regulations.
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@Cobaltqube, and the media an politicians are just as idiotic and ignorant about guns. Yet we listen to them. Heck media reported a bullet button makes a gun fully automatic. Media reported on 30 round magazines, committing a felony in the process. Politicians use the wrong names all the time. They don't have a clue what they are talking about half the time.
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@RogueKnight, There is a lot of car control, though. You have to take classes, most are very costly, and it has security measures.
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@RogueKnight, I think the main reason is the express purpose of a gun is rapidly putting a hole in something at range. (notice I don't say killing, because guns can be a fun way to pass time at the range) A knifes purpose is to cut something close by. Knives can be countered easily With any stick and have no range or rapid fire. Cars are expressly used for rapid movement of persons in suitable surfaces. They are to expensive to just hit things with. And they are countered by any wall or barrier. Even a 6 inch or larger tree. Just get on the other side. Guns serve no other useful purpose. And since deer can be hunted with bows, and air rifles can take a lot of other gaps, guns are somewhat useless in reality. Now any gun owner can counter that. If the other guy can put a hole in me, I want to put a hole in him first and faster. A legit argument. A responsible gun owner is a huge asset to society. But their are to many idiots.
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@UmActually, driving a car is a privilege, not a right. Owning a firearm is not a privilege, but a right stated in our Constitution to prevent and destroy tyranny in our government if the need arises
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@RogueKnight, I was joking bro. I'm moderate leaning towards conservative so I'm for a more relaxed regulation of what kind of guns you can buy but the moderate in me believes one should be trained in how to use the specific firearm they're buying before being allowed to purchase it, as well as stricter control on vendors, and required background checks/ requirement for a mental health check to be given by any government certified doctor/ psychologist. Of course these are my opinions and yours may differ. Not looking for a debate
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@Osama bin Dead, I think that we need to have some form of control via background checks and psych evaluations paid by the NRA, the largest lobby group in the US with money to throw around, just as a necessary precaution. It wouldn't take guns away from people who should have them. But at-risk people really should not be able to purchase guns.
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@The Hawks Eye, but this actually is a result of gun control. There's strict enough regulations otherwise she would ACTUALLY be holding an AK.
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@Osama bin Dead, the government has bigger guns, drones, missiles, and I dunno... a military? Might as well have everybody use rubber bands and paper hornets, it will probably effect the government about the same
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@The Hawks Eye, *cringe* *twitch twitch" FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER MORON!!! This picture gave me Forrest Whittaker Eye
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@RogueKnight, there's more restrictions on a knife than there are guns though. That's basically because that's all the NRA cares about though.
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@RogueKnight, lol America will ban kinder surprises for being too dangerous but guns are all good no need to change that in any way.
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@KingofFunnypics, a ruger 10/22 is expressly a survival rifle. In other words it's a squirrel plinker. The factory magazine was banned in NY because it held 7 rounds. This is a factory magazine, holding .22 caliber rounds. Sometimes it's ridiculous, especially when you hold something like a .22 to an AR15 or an AK.
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@HeroOfFunnypics, my hero?
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@meanpies, actaully.... Storm the congress with stuff like that... Shoot them until they get stuff done.
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@KingofFunnypics, but in any sense the reason that the second amendment exist is not for self defense, hunting or putting holes in people, it's in place so that in the event that the government becomes overly corrupt or tyrannical the people have the means to forcefully overthrow the government. You obviously know the whole life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness thing, it's just another fail safe to ensure that can happen. Also it can't be infringed, so there isn't a way to nullify it by my knowledge. In any case, common sense is needed. Does that man need a hundred round drum mag for his AR15 to go hunting. No, does he really need 30 rounds, no but that's the factory mag.
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@irishdude, that is ridiculous but... Sensible. I don't want a 50 round .22 mag. It needs a hard limit that has no loophole. I'd say anything above 5 rounds is getting large to me for hunting, honestly. If you miss your shot 5 times, you need better aim. Honestly, I think single shot hunting rifles should be the only legal thing for game hunting. It's stupid, they take all of the challenge out of the game. Learn to shoot. Of course that is hunting. Not self defense. Bigger clips are tactically advantageous. I don't know how big a clip you can have in NY, but they need to set hard limits somewhere. It may be stupidly low, but it's stupidly safe too.
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@meanpies, second amendment states the "right to bear arms" which can be interpreted as being permitted to own a predator drone, but no one will sell me one. Theoretically I could own one. You'd actually be surprised at what a civilian can actually own. Flame thrower for instance, perfectly legal, regardless of fuel used
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@HonestAbe, it's typically harder to get a handgun than a rifle. Considering handguns usually have a cool off period, intended to give people a few days to think straight and not by a pistol to shoot their ex, also the fact that pistols are used in most shooting deaths. My hunch is that this is either not this persons weapon, rather a friend or relative's, or a black market illegal firearm. Most likely the former, considering her lack of knowledge on guns
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@KingofFunnypics, again, common sense is always needed, and I have found a video ( don't have a link but should be easy to find if you search "sherif debunks magazine limits laws") and I'd say, if you're going hunting for a while, remember most people go hunting for several hours when they do, you want more than 5 rounds. A 22 round is typically used for squirrel and small game hunting, so you aren't going to be going for deer with it. You're going to miss. Also magazines are heavy. I'd rather carry a 25 round mag for a 10/22 (that's a magazine made by the company that makes this particular rifle) than 5 5 round magazines, it's simply impractical and has no basis in ability to commit mass crimes, which is what most people are concerned about. My big thing is not taking a measure to limit firearms, but limiting who can get their hands on them. Background checks, psych evals, these are necessary and we can stop massacres all together instead of doing damage control.
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@irishdude, I know the whole failsafe thing but... Honestly it's not really a good argument. We have to trust the government and reform it peacefully. Furthermore, not even the richest man on earth could right the government. Soldiers will always be better armed, and have air, naval, and ground superiority. Even if I could buy a tank, I couldn't win. Even if I could buy a nuke, I couldn't win. Let alone operate it. We live in an age of social media, and news. Little is kept secret from us for long. We can change the government well enough. And gross civil rights violations would be protested, and outside countries would intervene. Honest truth. We don't need guns. We like them. They can be good. But I have never seen a news story where a guy defended himself with a gun. Only someone used a gun to do evil. It's not even remotely close. Guns do a lot more harm then good.(hunting might be an exception but.... I think single shot rifles are all that's needed. Learn to shoot noob)
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@KingofFunnypics, also just some food for thought, from the movie full metal jacket, a rifle is a tool, it takes a hard heart to kill.
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@meanpies, if you think the military would all listen to the government in a revolution- you're strongly mistaken. I haven't talked to a single person from around me (western Pennsylvania) that is in the military and supports the present government/pc culture/gun control. The military would uphold the amendment over anything else.
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@irishdude, which makes enough sense. Your right We need those things. But is it really that hard to hit squirrels? I mean... I took a rifle merit badge on scouting and did quite well on the targets. I could rapidly reload for each shot. But I never missed at a 100 feet. Or was it 50? It was iron sites only. Not sure. I was the best in my group I think. I know moving targets are harder to hit, but I don't think it's that bad... Squirrels do stop. Could you explain how hard it is to shoot the critters? At what range is this?
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@irishdude, Yeah..
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@KingofFunnypics, stopping tyranny is a very good argument, there are numerous cases of democracies falling to tyranny (I.e. Nazi Germany). I'm not saying I expect that to happen anytime soon, but being able to fight it if it did occur is not a bad argument. Honestly, with the number of leftists claiming that Trump is Hitler, I'd think they wouldn't want to disarm themselves....
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@KingofFunnypics, self defense is not a throwaway. Gangs of criminals do exist, and criminals do group together to do things like home invasions. If 5 criminals bust in your door, you're going to want more than single shot hunting rifle....
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@talmet, lol. I just don't think we could have a tyrant in the age of the internet. Seems unlikely. I'm Jewish, and honestly... The Jews let it happen to some degree. I think many Jews supported him at first. Ironic. But if they had the internet back then, the camps would have leaked. Guantanamo bay is no secret. It's close to the camps.
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@KingofFunnypics, the Internet would stop hitler? Hahahaha hahahahahahaha!!!! What is it going to do? Use a hashtag to cripple him? "Oh NO!, these people on the Internet hate me....hey, SS, go kill them all. Thanks."
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@KingofFunnypics, how easily you can hit a critter out to range is always a very personal question, meaning it's tons of variables, buts it's just common sense. Give you an example, in NY, where I'm from, the maximum amount of ammunition you can contain in a magazine for a semiautomatic weapon is 7 rounds. You can own a 10 round magazine, but you can only load it to 7 rounds, unless you're at a firing range. Also remember, the media is biased, always, don't trust it 100% check for yourself. I do think that firearms at times can be ridiculous, but above all else, we are debating a short blurb written by aging white dudes in a time without smokeless powder, magazines, or weapons with a single barrel firing more than once before reloading. And I am all for peaceful reform, the fewer people that get hurt the better, but for now I am going to uphold my rights to the best of my ability, regardless of popular opinion. But a thing that is sorely lacking in government is common sense
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@KingofFunnypics, Guantanamo is close to concentration camps?!?!! Dude...you honestly have no idea what you are talking about do you....are there ovens, or gas chambers at Guantanamo? Are the prisoners forced to labor without food, until they collapse from starvation? Do guards shoot them for fun? Are female prisoners raped regularly? If you really at Jewish, go learn about he holocaust...and stop belittling the real suffering that occurred there.
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@irishdude, just a note, gun control has never been the popular opinion. Oh, and the NRA is tied for the most popular political group in the country (tied with planned parenthood), both are viewed favorably by like 58% of the country. Gallop does polls every year, and those two are always at the top & within margin of error of each other.
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@talmet, but if 5 guys just down your door, armed with even pistols, you won't win. So why fight? Run? Call the cops. I play Airsoft a fair bit, and no matter your skill in a engagement, the odds are never tilted heavily your way. Navy seals take casualties. We avoid ground wars for a reason. Their is no perfect soldier. 5 on 1 odds just are not going to work out.(leave grenades out of it) I think we need better police, and better sub lethal weapons. Police need more power and monitoring to counter that power. (Their cam feeds should practically be live streams.) that would stop a lot of larger groups. And sub lethal weapons need work. I think laser bedazzlers, rubber bullets, tasers and pepper spray need work. Why don't they make more taser bullets? Batteries and metal prongs aren't so hard to shoot. I know I'm an idealist, but this is stupid. We need to let the system work.
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@talmet, thank you, I was not aware of this information. By "popular opinion" I was talking about the media and other loud mouths. I should have specified
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@The Hawks Eye, another thing to consider, besides having a larger magazine for home defense, yes it should only take one shot to hit an animal when hunting, but depending on where you are and what you are hunting, you could scare whatever else may be around you. You shoot a deer and startle a mother sow and she charges you, it's better to have a larger magazine to put her down, because in some cases it will take more than one shot to put her down. And what happens when something larger than a hog gets startled and charges you?
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@KingofFunnypics, if 5 guys bust in my door, I might not take them all down, but if I take down one or two, the others might run away...which is better than trying to run away, and maybe getting shot in the back. Police are great...but there is this thing you're not thinking about. If you call the cops, it takes time for them to get there. In some places, their average response time is 20+ minutes. Sub-lethal weapons would be great, but the technology isn't there yet.
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@talmet, yeah. Because other countries would have seen the civil rights violations far earlier and mobilized on him. Furthermore, most Germans thought the Jews were going to a Jew only place perfect for them, with luxurious facilities fit for people as rich as them. They thought we were being sent to build our own perfect Jewish society, while they built the perfect German one.
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@irishdude, well said
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@KingofFunnypics, I see...and what is going on in the Congo, why isn't the Internet stopping that? Most other countries don't care what each other do.
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@KingofFunnypics, so, taser bullets. They are in development, unpredictable, expensive and could cause more harm than good. Now let's look at the five to one thing. Considering an average civilian can own a vast array of semi automatic weapons, which can fire just as fast as automatic weapons for a short duration. I'd say that it's a pretty fair fight. You're on the defensive. Give you an example from my experience. I do black ops laser tag, one shot one kill. Basically the same as air soft minus doping your aim a bit and the welts afterwards. 6v6 against buds of mine, all very skilled at this sort of thing. I've clutched up 1v5 and 1v6 scenarios with relative ease, and I am not even the most skilled of us. It really comes down to not the weapon, but the man behind the weapon.
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@KingofFunnypics, oh, and most Germans thought the Jews were going somewhere luxurious?!?!? Where do you get this stuff....no, most Germans thought the Jews were being deported. Oh, and given that the Jews were forced to leave all of their stuff/houses/etc, their neighbors knew the Jews weren't rich anymore.
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@talmet, I visited Auschwitz and Dachau. I walked over the unmarked graves of my family. I had a large one... Once. Only 3 of about 20 people left Germany in time. I can't imagine what happened in those camps and neither can you. Auschwitz's presence is .... It can't be described. The air is thicker. And yet, all these years later... The lazy hills and fields seem so peaceful and serene. Quite a ironic place really. I don't wish to go back. That being said, Guantanamo bay is nearly the closest thing today to those horrid camps. Perhaps the slave trades in Africa, or the hidden world of sexual exploitation in our cities is also near it. However you will notice each one of those are not nearly as bad as the Holocaust, and we know about them. Because of the widespread news media, and the internet. We know of them, and groups try to stop these things. That is my point. The Holocaust happened because it was conducted in secret. Hitler's final solution was not discovered until the wars end
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@talmet, all very true. You have a chance. The question is, would criminals always have guns if we had no guns at all? They might get them. But probably not. And since you can hide from other weapons.... It increases the effectiveness of law enforcement. If we could get everyone to always be armed that might work. But that has its own issues...
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@talmet, that's a whole nother can of worms. Funding. No reason too. Not enough crimes really. It's sorta simply the way of life their. Sorta. Seems wrong to us but we didn't grow up there. People in China eat dog sometimes. That would never fly here. But China has different values compared to us, and eating dogs doesn't effect us. However, Muslims are purging other Muslims from existence. We know about it. We try to stop it. Please don't make me get to deep here. It's just a rough face value statement.
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@irishdude, yeah, I guess. I'm an idealist at heart. But I still argue that you couldn't bear 5 every time. Especially if they are used to working together. I once Went out with a shield and sword and Zelda spin killed 4 guys in a room. But I failed a lot too....
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@talmet, the 3rd Reich spread videos showing the idealic lives that the Jews lead in the camps. Look it up. Many Germans just had no reason to think the camps were what they were. I can't really blame them that much. Hitler was a genius. A monster, but a fantastic monster. (never underestimate the enemy. They always have the upper hand)
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@HeroOfFunnypics, first off that is not an AK47.... it is a handgun. Either a 45ACP or a 9mm.... secondly the fact that you know absolutely nothing about guns to even know that shows you need to go to a gun safety course and learn that guns dont kill people. I have been shooting since I was 4 and my guns have never shot anyone. They only shoot when someone pulls the trigger..... thirdly, making guns illegal wont take them away from criminals. If Criminals obeyed laws they wouldnt be criminals you dumbass
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@KingofFunnypics, here is some food for thought. While yes I do support guns I do believe that they shouldn't need a huge magazine. Then to the point of restricting them. Criminals will always be able to get illegal guns. Then to the guantanamo Bay thing. You do realize they get TV, beds, three meals a day and medical right? How in the he'll is that anywhere near the Holocaust. Plus even if the German people knew about it you had the gestapo and MPs who stroked fear into them to the point that they would not try to stop it.
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@Ka1juGh0St, Lurker attack! Sorry mate but you get injured or die, and frankly, deserve it (unless you are quick enough to escape). You are hunting live animals for pleasure or food, and you ought to take all the risks that come with the challenge.
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@Truck3r, bro i know that's not an AK-47 i was sarcastically remarking that "any gun restriction law could be passed" citing this picture as evidence because the women in the picture is so dumb and has acquired a gun so we need stricter gun control. Now that statement i just said in the previous sentence was me saying a joke. I would think that you would be able to differentiate between serious topics and joke after using this app. Second off i understand guns don't kill people and that people kill people. Third off, i live in san diego right next to the border. Gun traffic with cartel allows criminals to access guns with ease. I do not believe in restricting gun access more. However i do believe that people should have background checks and mental evaluations before buying a gun and be trained in how to use the firearm their purchasing. Please clearly read my comments before attacking me "dumbass"
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@KingofFunnypics, Guantanamo bay is in no way similar to the concentration camps. They get rec time (we just spent like 5 million dollars to build them a new soccer field.) they have TV, court hearings, etc... Would criminals always have guns if we had no guns?? How are you getting rid of all guns? We have been trying to get rid of all drugs for the past like 80 years, and yet criminals still have drugs. Muslims are trying, and succeeding in killing other Muslims and anyone else they don't like in the Middle East, true. I see us talking about stopping it, but ISIS still exists and still kills people everyday. Lastly, I never said that most Germans knew about the camps. But after hearing hitler's speeches about how evil and disgusting the Jews were, the people didn't think "Hitler is giving them all a vacation! I wish I was Jewish so I could go live in such a nice place!"
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@UmActually, not really a . There are no measure to prevent you from driving without a license. Only punishment. you'd be surprised how many people drive with a suspended or no license. Just one example.
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@meanpies, every redneck with a gun thinks they'll be Rambo when shjt hits the fan. And they worship the military too much to fight them if the government went bat-shjt crazy
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@KingofFunnypics, a knife cannot easily be countered by a stick... not without training. First thing you learn about knife fighting is that you will be cut. The goal is just to cut the other guy more. Osama bin dead already explained the purpose of guns. France, Germany, Australia and Britain have strict gun laws. it isn't really working out to well for them. People don't like the whole guns are to protect you from the government argument, but the US wouldn't have won it's independence from Britain if not for guns to fight their government. (Coincidentally, today is July 4th)
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@UmActually, no one disagrees about keeping guns away from criminals, terrorists, and mentally ill. Unfortunately politics keeps getting in the way. Instead of coming up with smart laws everyone can agree too, gun control advocates try to add things that violate the rights of law abiding citizens.
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@meanpies, 300 million guns in the US is enough to scare the government. When the US was looking to invade the main island of Japan in WWII, one of their greatest fears was fighting the citizens, who would have been armed with only spears and pitch forks.
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@The Hawks Eye, you're the Hawks eye!!! You're literally the most gun happy person in FMA save for havok!
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@irishdude, so who is in charge if the militia?
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@talmet, what makes you think that you'd get the first shot off? You'd need to also randomly spray to some extent against 5 intruders... unless you have some genius plan, which will be waiting down the end of a hallway out of line of fire in the dark etc etc because no one thinks of that and these guys have never invaded the homes of gun owners before.
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@irishdude, except without the thought that your possibly going to die. No loud gun shots. No muzzle flash. No real concern over well being etc etc. Not having to convince yourself to kill another person... yeah Lazer tag is just the same...
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@RogueKnight, bullshyt... as an Australian I can tell you is working excellently. I don't know where you fvcking idiots get your info, except for FOX. We've had no real mass shootings until you try to bullshyt with the incidents. USA one mass killing per week. Here, none.
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@RogueKnight, in the USA who is the best equipped fighting force, with the exception of naval? Protip, it's not your army.
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@HonestAbe, I doubt she would have an AK. The are plenty of people in California with illegal guns. And in Chicago. And in New York.
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@TheMonkeyGod, I seem to recall a terrorist attack in Australia with an illegal gun within the last year or so. It does happen. I don't watch FOX. nice try. We don't have one per week. Not the mass shootings you are probably talking about. There as "mass shootings" that are gang violence that happen in places like chicago, but guns are already illegal there, unless you are in your house.Plus we have ore guns than ever in this country, and last I checked mass shootings have not risen. You just hear about more of them. Finally, guns weren't a constitutional right in your country.
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@RogueKnight, yes our "terrorist" attack was a 15 year old kid who shot an accountant who worked for police. OMG. Fvck it's out of control. That's it. And I'm using the definition used by law enforcement of 4 killed equals mass shooting.
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@RogueKnight, it wasn't initially in your county either. Why do you think it's part of an amendment? Hurr durr...
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@RogueKnight, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they have lower crime rates? Is that per capita though... And I have never done knife disarm training, but a knife has little range. I don't see how picking up a lamp or chair could not help stop the knife. You aim for the hand, or to stun. Pelt them with crud. Knives are pretty terrible weapons to me, as anyone who has half a brain and a tiny but of luck should be able fashion a weapon. I'm looking around my room my lava lamp first to distract them. Then my long fan. Might get my blanket off my bed and throw it for more distraction. I may lack cutting power but I can definitely even the field to what I call a fair fight.
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@TheMonkeyGod, I caused that statement. I do Airsoft, and used some of my experience in game to back up a point. Laser tag is similar enough, though neither is real combat.
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@KingofFunnypics, exactly. Neither are real. Real exchange of gunfire is so vastly different.
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@KingofFunnypics, they had lower crime rates to began with. And I don't know if their mass shootings dropped with the new gun laws, but again, I don't believe Australia had a problem the way the US does. I have heard mixed responses on crime rates. Some areas went down,but some areas spiked upward dramatically too, especially with residential burglaries. From news I have read, and not on FOX. :-). I have some basic knife training. It isn't as easy as you would think to disarm. By your same logic, throwing a lamp would throw off the aim of a shooter, too. Distractions would have the same effect on a shooter. Personally, I would rather get into a gun fight than a knife fight. I'm more confident I can out shoot the other guy because of training and practice. I'm also more confident I can get out of the line of fire more easily than being against a guy swinging a knife. Knives, being up close and personal, would be more challenging to avoid injury.
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@talmet, ran outta room. A gun heavy world would be wonderful. But how do we get people to always carry? My point in all of this is.... We as a society do not move towards issues. We argue over them, and let them fester and rot. We reap what we sow. We need to all realize that in reality the other side is as right as you are. We need to compromise and make legislation that works. The NRA never budges an inch. Neither do ... Is their a strict antigun group? In any case, we need to compromise. Instead we live in limbo, and that's killing is. Actions speak louder than words, and since we take little action, we hardly speak. People have forgotten that Democracy isn't Freedom to do anything and have it your way. It's that everyone has a say, and then we all meet in the middle, somewhere safe for everyone. No matter what facts you cite about guns helping or hurting society, it doesn't matter to the solution. What matters is the average opinion of the masses.
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@TheMonkeyGod, the point for both of us is that it's the closest thing to a real exchange of gunfire that we have experienced. So it's good enough for a comparison. I'd even extend that to Call of Duty. All other things being equal, the guy who plays COD will know a tiny bit more about combat. Of course it's not real combat, but it's a simulated reference that we both understand. If I were to pick a guy to back me up in a fight, other things equal, as in mature and reserved I'd pick someone who plays any combat simulator.
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@RogueKnight, that makes sense my Rouge Knight. Lol. Your right on all accounts. I take no sides, but I always explain the other side to someone. I feel we all need to put aside our differences, and compromise. Its our lack of action in the US that causes many of our problems. And I personally prefer melee type things. You filthy snipers need to learn the true art of combat - Gone with the Blast wave.
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@RogueKnight, prior to our change in law we had more guns per capita than the USA and had a mass shooting at least one a year and a lot of gun crime. Following it all dropped off massively
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@KingofFunnypics, part of the problem is that our culture can't cope with bad news like g err thing fired, divorced, etc. So they act out. But everyone wants to get rid of guns instead of focusing on the real problem.
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@RogueKnight, part of it. Yeah. But both solutions to me should be pursued at once. Removing the guns at least partially removes the problem. But if someone is intent to kill they don't need a gun. We just made it harder. If we change society to accept loss and not act out, there will be less violence in general, but we can't possibly help everyone. Their will always be the disenfranchised few.... Think of both as a burner on a stove. We want to turn the stove off. If we lower one, the other is still on. Both need to be lowered. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. But people without guns who are in satisfied in life don't often kill people on purpose.
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@The Hawks Eye, I'm not American and nothing I say here is in any way meant to express an opinion for or against gun control - no subtext, no hidden agenda, nothing beyond the statement itself. Okay, here goes. I don't get the guns thing. When people say that they need a military grade assault rifle and/or a sniper rifle with a thousand yard range for 'home defence' I wonder what the heck they're defending it from! I'm not debating whether or not it's an irrevocable constitutional right. I'm not saying they should be taken away or anything like that. Just that I don't get it.
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@TheMonkeyGod, I never said I'd get the first shot off, or that I think I would win. If 5 guys burst into your house in the middle of the night, unless you have extensive training, you're probably dead. But even a slim chance is better than no chance at all.
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@KingofFunnypics, The NRA does make compromises, they agreed to the no-fly, no-buy idea with the requirement that there be an appeal process so that if someone is erroneously put on the no-fly list they can get themselves off of it (there have been numerous cases where people have been put on the no fly list because of things like, having names similar to a terrorist, etc). But the anti-gun democrats ignored that offer. The NRA has also supported mental health checks for gun ownership for decades, but the ACLU says that assuming someone is mentally unstable because of the way they act/look is discrimination.
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@UmActually, well we already have background checks, including at gun shows. Every gun show Ive been to, theyve made me go through a background check. We have so many firearm laws already in place. If its not working, its lack of discipline and drive by the FBI. Some people want gun registration, but dont know what it actually does
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@UmActually, They hold many safety courses that they mostly pay for.
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@irishdude, But at the same time, pretty much the only difference between my M&P 15-22 and a 10/22 is the way it looks.
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@irishdude, The big magazines are for fun and competition.
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@meanpies, yea they do. The AR-15 is the closest firearm to military grade that is accessible to most Americans. Shoots the same caliber as the standard issue M4. If shtf, the military is supposed to withhold the Constitution of the United States. If the govt illegally takes away our right, paid in blood and sacrifice, we would not have a fighting chance to stop tyranny
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@irishdude, Most states don't let you hunt with semi autos actually. But yeah, if I'm gonna commit a crime, it's not going to be with me 25 round .22
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@irishdude, *my
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@KingofFunnypics, That's because we have a very liberal media, and those stories don't get published. Most of the time, the criminal sees the gun and runs. And you try hitting a running deer at 600 yards with only one shot.
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@KingofFunnypics, Were you shooting through brush and leaves?
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@talmet, A 3 shot .300 WSM does the trick 😂
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@KingofFunnypics, thats because liberal media never airs reports on when people have succesfully defended themselves with a firearm. Social media only airs when firearms were used for bad. Remember, a gun is an inanimate object. Its a tool. Its the person behind the gun who commits the murder. Whatever weapon used, they are the murderer. We do need guns
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@KingofFunnypics, First off, constant security cameras would take an ungodly amount of storage. And if you get the jump on the criminals, you can easily divide and conquer. Especially considering the fact that you know your own home. Also, most criminals would not have proper weapon handling training. If they're missing 5 shots for every one I hit, I'll be just fine.
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@talmet, And also, how many states have things such as bean bag rounds banned?
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@KingofFunnypics, Most crimes are committed with illegally obtained weapons.
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@KingofFunnypics, actual stimulating combat will more different than you can possibly prepare for. Your adrenalin kicks in, you start running off instinct. Any thought training you believed you had playing a fictitious game is gone. Actually firearm training is the best solution. Knowing you may die greatly affects your ability to think or operate. "Amateurs train until they get it right, professionals train until they cant get it wrong."
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@TheCruzanator, I guess you shouldn't be allowed to have seatbelts either, since you should know how to drive a car without wrecking.
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@KingofFunnypics, Oh yes, COD definitely deals with recoil, handling and reloading your firearm, proper sight alignment, etc.
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@KingofFunnypics, You know how easy it is to blow up an entire house?
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@Gollum Fetish, That's a pretty shoddy comparison haha. If I went with it it'd be like saying you're not allowed to wear the orange vests that keep you from getting shot by other hunters :p It's idiotic. The point is you're doing something recreationally, your desire to be a lil safer in an unnecesary situation (transportation is very necessary) in exchange for lowering the safety of the majority is selfish. But that'd be basing it on gun laws. I'm just stating you ought to accept the risks of what you do, so I have no right to be mad if I get in a car accident after driving at 150mph just as you have no right to be upset if you are injured or die during a recreational activity such as hunting.
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How is that making it significantly more dangerous to others?
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@Gollum Fetish, i dunno mate, i already said im avoiding gun law crud. My comment is about a hunter feeling their need for security should outweigh anothers. Again, a comparison: tis like saying my desire for carrying a blinking suitcase everywhere I go (cause LEDS) userps the public interest in calm and safety (since the suitcase looks like a giant bomb). No menacing society. Its just not a valid reason for denying gun control. Now, what that control should be, I leave to ya'll to hash out. PEACE
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@Gollum Fetish, that's alotta replies... The question about COD and Airsoft being like the real thing. That's not my point. It's that it's something. If you take 2 people are alike in every way, but one is an avid COD player, I will bet they are better in a fight than the other person, because they can glean from the game some simple rules. Bigger guns deal more damage, and go through more objects. Thick Walls will probably stop bullets( I know bullet penetration varies, and large caliber bullets will get through near anything) while bushes will conceal me. Different weapon types and there rough abilities(high fire rate, lower accuracy.) Recoil exists, weapons are really really loud, lower your profile, and stay under cover ect. It's not real life but it has a lot of accidental lessons you would never know if you never played. Of course a class is better, but remember I said other things equal. That means neither took the class, but one did get all of those lessons from COD.
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@Gollum Fetish, Actually I don't know how easy it is to blow up a house. How did we even get here?
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@KingofFunnypics, Taking guns from both responsible owners and criminals will only cause the criminals to come up with other means of killing. Bombing, which can't be actively stopped, is one of those.
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@Osama bin Dead, when did someone successfully stop a robbery? I'm curious. And how do the numbers compare?
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@KingofFunnypics, I just read an article that occured in Anchorage, AK where an armed law abiding citizen stopped armed clothing store robbery without any shots fired
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@Gollum Fetish, but that takes a lot of effort and knowledge. Bombs can be diffused. They don't seek their target and adapt. Knives are counter able at range. Bows can't reload in time and can plausibly be dodged... Not easily but... Easier than a bullet. I wish everyone carried a gun. If even 1 in 8 people carried, crime and mass shootings would drop. But that's not likely.
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@KingofFunnypics, Around where I live, nobody dares rob a store while it's open. The CCW rate is insanely high. There's only been 2? murders in the last six years, and the were both married couples. And house robberies? You can rule them out too. Every other house as at least one gun. I have ten easily accessible at the foot of my bed.
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@Osama bin Dead, ok. Now how many shootings went unstopped? That's the critical statistic. If guns have a lesser deterrent value and protection value than their usage in crimes, than we should logically remove them from society. That's hard math. We can quantify that statistic. However, the flip side is true. If guns deter and stop more violence than they make, than we must encourage them to be propagated in society and distributed in mass. All should have access to guns, and should defend themselves. In our schools, gun safety and usage classes should be taught. Math. It's math. Nobody can argue unscewed math.
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@KingofFunnypics, I cant give you a number on how many were stopped, but the main problem is that the majority of shootings happen in locations where there are strict gun laws (etc CA, NY, CT) as well as gun free zones. The last terrorist attack happened at a gun free zone. Firearms are not allowed in bars. The security officer was not situationally aware about the terrorist. Gun free zones do not work, terrorists and criminals will not obey them. If they wont obey gun laws, why would the obey a gun free zone? These laws are keeping good, law abiding citizens who ccw or open carry from protecting people. I would not hesitate to lay my life down for the innocent. The sandy hook shooting happened in a school which is also gun free. If a citizen who was armed went into the school and killed the shooter, he would be charged for breaking the law even though he saved countless lives. There are good people in this country who will risk everything to save lives, they are just being prohibited
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@Gollum Fetish, but on the whole? Your home seems nice enough. But is the same case in cities? The other problem is America is I believe the biggest democracy ever. I think. It's close to say the least. A problem with big democracy is that if everyone has a say they vote for what they want or need. Say a bill goes to congress that increases taxs to help disaster victims. States that commonly get disasters need this bill, as they can't get back on their feet. But relatively disaster safe States like New York, Maine, Etc. Will need that money for education or roads. They will be screwed by this in the long run, as they rarely need money to recover compared to Florida, who gets a hurricane every season. Big democracies just aren't efficient. Guns probably should be handled at the state level for that reason. In Alaska, you need a gun to hunt, as that may be your only good supply. In New York guns are nothing but trouble.
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@Osama bin Dead, soft targets. Nearly Unprotectable. Interesting point. But the stats are still needed. I personally think schools and soft targets should have armed ex military guards but that's personal. Should help a bit.
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@KingofFunnypics, The trouble needs to get countered by a non-trouble person who is carrying. Cities have high crime rates because they have low concealed carry rates. How is an outright ban (California) going to deter criminals? It just gives them reassurance that nobody has the ability to stop them. Most of the laws, while they do make it slightly harder for criminals to access guns, are making it significantly harder for law abiding citizens to obtain a firearm.
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@KingofFunnypics, i agree about having a trained security officer. I know the stats are needed. The main point of my argument is that there is a small percentage of bad people who use guns for selfish evil, while the majority of firearm owners are great people. Most willing to lay everything down on the line even if it saves one life
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@RogueKnight, exactly
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Plot twist, the photo is cropped and it's in her other hand.
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@RMB, No that's her diet coke
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@RMB, That would still make no sense, because she would be well aware that the picture doesn't show it.
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@Fvck Younicorn, she makes the AK look like a hand gun
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@Square Feet, this was funny. Sorry it got buried in the political debate.
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AK-47 now in compact form!
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@PunnyBaker, someone should tell her, I think ima tell her
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@MrStewPadasle, where do you buy the underwear that can contain your massive steel balls?
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@a shiny haunter, I freeball it mostly, I enjoy the satisfying clacking noise they make when I walk
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@MrStewPadasle, just like those party favors right?
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@a shiny haunter, the very same lol
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I'm just worried about all the glocks in the Middle East
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@GSpotSandwhiches, is this a satirical post?
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@JangoFett, yes, no its not
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@GSpotSandwhiches, glad we cleared that up
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Um, replace the guns situation with muslims. For the good of all we need to ban all Muslims. Yes there are good ones but there are to many bad ones and we need to just ban them. See how it sounds?
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@Firecracker Jim, one is an inanimate object while the other is a living breathing human being with emotions and the ability to be rational. You can tell a person to change their mind, but a gun can't stop itself from releasing a bullet once the trigger has been pulled.
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@La Lionne, and it cant pull its own trigger can it?
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@Firecracker Jim, no. My intent wasn't to talk about gun regulation (though I see why you took it that way, my bad) but about the absurdity of comparing an object with a human being. I can use another example: banning guns doesn't hurt guns but banning an entire religious group is inhumane.
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@La Lionne, the guns wouldn't be hurt. But the gun owners will. We need to be able to defend our self adequately, from any threat. Be it a carjacking, home invasion, or our own tyrannical govt slowly but surely stripping our rights away.
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@Firecracker Jim, here's the problem, we can't ban muslims, it's against the constitution, freedom of religion. Guns however are an easier and less controversial topic. Rather than gun control, we need weapons ownership regulation. Stopping weapons from getting in to the hands of bad people, be it a gun, a knife or a bow and arrow
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@irishdude, we can't ban Muslims because of freedom of religion is in the constitution....but we can ban guns, which is also a violation of the constitution?!?!? Are you smoking something?
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@talmet, I'm not proposing an outright ban on guns, nor am I proposing that we have to let everyone in to the country. In both cases there needs to be uniform regulation. Background checks, psychiatric evaluations if necessary. What I said about guns goes for immigration, it needs to be regulated. We can't let weapons fall into the hands of people who intend to do harm to others or themselves, same goes for immigration, if someone wants to get into America so they can hurt people they simply can't be let in. And to answer your other question, at this point in time I am completely sober, being of sound body and mind
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@irishdude, background checks don't work, see the Orlando shooter who passed every background check with flying colors.
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@talmet, That's kinda the point. The background checks need to be strengthened and tightened.
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@TheCruzanator, how? With the Orlando shooter, one of the investigations lead by the FBI was dropped as soon as he claimed to be a victim of islamophobia. With that kind of thinking doing the background checks, how can they be improved (other than kicking out the idiots at the FBI). Also, what should the background checks look for? At what point do they start infringing on a persons free speech? I.e. If a person once said "I hate Obama", do they lose the right to own a gun for the rest of their life? What about someone who has a bad day at work and makes a Facebook status update like "some days, I just want to kill my boss."
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@La Lionne, people can do much worse than guns
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@talmet, or maybe not allow people that have been investigated by the FBI in the last two to five years to have a gun? Also, the person that were to post that on Facebook for the world to see should be fired. Just saying.
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@irishdude, yea well what part of "shall not be infringed" you not getting?
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@irishdude, you could put in place a brain scan and a 10 year waiting list to get a gun. Wouldn't help aginst the ones on the street and the ones bad guys have and can get at the drop of a hat.
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@TheCruzanator, how? The fbi had plenty of times to add him to a no buy list. He was a known to be an abusive husband. He claimed to be in a few radical groups and said he was friends with other known terrorists. But still he got them and look what happened.
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@Buffalonian, so if the FBI investigates someone, finds nothing, then the person should lose their rights? Sorry, that's a violation of due process, you don't lose your rights just because someone accuses you of something.
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Bullying is one of the many highly overrated things going on in America right now. 😑
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@FoodieAsFuk, overrated or over exaggerated? Cuz I'm getting an image in my head of a bully knocking a smaller kid into the dirt and then going "eh. That wasn't as fun as I thought it would be."
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@I Are Lebo, Seriously though, I realize bullying shouldn't be allowed, but it shouldn't need criminal charges. People need to learn to be able to just disregard what assholes say.
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@Gollum Fetish, it's not about that. It's the difference between bullying and tormenting. Bullying is equal opportunity, and usually leads to kids (and therefore people) either learning to stand up for themselves or learning to be unobtrusive, both of which have points in adult life where it's necessary to know. Tormenting is specific, and often leads to mental trauma that can sometimes never be overcome. Every single instance of a school shooting that wasn't fuelled by psychosis was a direct result of someone being tormented. The same goes for teen suicides. Bullying is a natural part of growing up. It's the act of learning what behaviours are socially acceptable and what behaviours aren't. This applies to both the bullied and the bully. Bullying behaviours, when done properly, are very helpful for businessmen, politicians, reporters, etc. Bullied behaviours help anyone with an asshole boss. But tormenting, & also hazing, break down people down. They need to be stopped and prevented
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@I Are Lebo, I'm talking about the fact that dodge ball isn't evel allowed in most schools because they will throw the ball at the slow kids.
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@Gollum Fetish, as an example, if one kid calls another kid names and pushed them down, they should not have a criminal record for it, nor should they go through a traumatic arrest. But if a kid shoves another kid into a locker or dumpster, and locks them in there for hours, that kid needs appropriate punishment. Getting duct taped naked to a flagpole for six hours isn't something that should be laughed off as "it's just a prank bro". Those are serious crimes and should be treated as such.
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AK 47? Is that her weight in Roman Numerals plus 47?
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@spences, I don't mean to ruin your joke, but neither of those letters are Roman numerals.
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@Dr Simon Acula, I know they aren't, but I was stretching to find a joke.
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@spences, it's okay you have my upvotes anyways. Almost had to do yoga to find the joke though 😜
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@Murderin Mike, Thank you, sir. Good luck with the downward dog. :P
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@spences, I'm more of a triangle pose guy :p
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And she's not scared to stab you to death with it!
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The AK-47 Seems to have $29.99 600-round Glock brand assault clipazine
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@HankTheBeerThief, so many things I hate about the media summed up in one sentence *clap* *clap* *clap*
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@irishdude, YouTube a channel called MattV2099, his content full of stupid anti-gun people quotes and well… 'Murica.
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She's so fat that she makes an AK 47 look like an airsoft gun with the orange tip taken off
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@Domogle, that's not an AK-47. that's a glock. There is a big difference. Most notably, the glock is a pistol, and the AK-47 is an assault rifle.
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I bet she thinks the name stands for "automatic killer 47 bullets per second"
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How much do you wanna bet that the gun's fake?
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You're fat. Oh look...I'm not dead.
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Several things wrong here...
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@SimonPetrikov, What? Look at that perfect form.
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and let the gun control debates commence
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I'm trying to figure out if that's a blanket from Walmart or a shirt
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195 comments? wow.
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The gun always follows you
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She looks like a cow..... That got hit by a garbage truck .... Full of poop
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Anyone who gives up freedom for security deserves niether....carry your own damn gun...take care of yourself..don't be a victim.
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I say we let natural selection do it's thing...
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Fat and stupid what a wonderful combination.
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$20 says its fvcking loaded too.
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Guantanamo bay to me is the closest thing to a concentration camp that exists. I'm not comparing the level of abuse or reason for it. I'm comparing the fact that it's something the government kept hidden. The Nazis could have nearly indefinitely his the camps from the public, without the current media. Now, no government can hide such abuse, even if it's argued to be for the good of the war. If we abolish gun and ammo production, all guns will slowly decay. Most criminals cannot produce effective guns and ammo. Larger incidents can be handled by a more capable police force with greater power and more presence. You'll notice I describe a utopia theory. And as they say my utopia is not your utopia. In this case, I have defined a utopia by having the least possible shooting deaths. I concede that the opposite end of the spectrum is also a utopia that fits the bill. If everyone over the age of 18 was required by law to own and carry a firearm, crime would fall like a rock.
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Is no one gonna tell her? ...I'm gonna tell her.
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@Asgardian Hammer, dont do it!
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@TheCatSith, I'm gonna do it
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@Asgardian Hammer, noooooooooooooo!
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@The Hawks Eye sry to say that 1 other arguememt for gun control is the fact that people on the terrorist watch list can still buy guns unless u like them having access to guns
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This firearm, specifically, is a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber. I have one of these and I love its handling capability, despite the uneven weight distribution for a metal slide and bolt assembly to its plastic handle assembly.
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*facepalms myself to infinity*
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They should add social media to the background check. If you do really stupid things or make threats like this(borrowed gun(?)), then f*ck off, you're not responsible enough for a firearm.
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I must have got ripped off, when a guy sold me an AK-47 it looked nothing like that.
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Fat and stupid, don't know what else could make me harder
I would legit pay money to watch this dumbass fire a handgun while holding it next to her head like that. I would point and laugh as the paramedics tended to her facial burns and burst eardrum. Not because she's fat. Because she's stupid.