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@big freedom, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ He thinks it's favorable to a Trump presidency, he did way better than anyone thought and people are actually coming out in support of him and candidates like him. He was never meant to be president, he was meant to start the conversation. At least that's the vibe I'm getting from him in the past few days.
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@UmActually, Yes, the conversation and political revolution of making the US like Europe. Thanks, but no thanks.
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@4Chan Ambassador , Literally, the only mainstream candidate not calling for a more European US is Hillary, because she's a centrist. Trump's a nationalist similar to candidates in Pre-WW2 Germany and Bernie is a socialist similar to most candidates in Europe/the rest of the modern world today.
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@UmActually, hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! Hillary is not calling for globalism???!?!!?? Hahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!! Omg, that is the best joke I've heard in awhile. Hillary is a corporate shill. Oh, and she isn't a centrist, most of her positions have less than 30% popular support (open borders, no restrictions on abortion, higher taxes, etc...)
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@talmet, She's more center left then Bernie, and more center than Trump in terms of basic ideology. And our past 10 presidents have all been pushing for globalization since Kennedy said the famous, or rather infamous line, "We are all donuts." in Berlin.
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@UmActually, how are you measuring he center of political identity? Compared to what? -76% of American people think 3rd trimester abortion should be illegal. -73% of American people support building a wall. -67% of American people support pausing Syrian refugees until they can be vetted. -56% of Americans and 67% of non-whites think crime is a major problem. -52% of Americans still oppose Obamacare and think it should be repealed. -63% of Americans think that we give to much money to NATO and the UN. Most of those are positions Trump has, and the ones he doesn't have, Hillary is against (he hasn't come out against 3rd term abortion, but she's all for it) and they all have a majority of American support. Being with the majority on issues=being a centrist. Being with a tiny minority on issues=being friends extreme candidate.
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@talmet, err *fringe not friends, autocorrect
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@UmActually, oh, and Trump is also with the 67% of Americans who think gun ownership reduces crime, and the 56% of people who have a positive view of the NRA.
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@talmet, Ha! Where'd you get those statistics? Gallup on the first one: 69% of Americans believe in some form of restrictions on abortions, so close, but not quite. Pew Research Center: 46% of Americans support some form of a wall vs. 48% that don't. Bloomberg Poll: 53% believe that refugees should be slowed or stopped (They can be vetted, by the way, do some research and don't just listen to the Trumpmaster General and Fox News). I don't think anyone believes crime is good, major candidates included. Average of major poll results has Obamacare's disapproval rating at 48% No major polling firms have done polls on that specifically. Dongle Trumpalump has a 63% disapproval rating, since you like polls and percentages so much, you should just get better at citing them. I will give you the Obamacare one, though, some firms have that number. The average of all the polls is 48%
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@talmet, Not really, he supported the NY ban on assault weapons and has criticized the NRA for their dirty politics. I find it funny that you are mad because Hillary is a corporate shill, but politicians that get paid millions to support the NRA (One of the largest lobby groups in America, spending about 1 million per year just lobbying congress, spending more lobbying in state governments.
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@talmet, And that's not what centrism is. The majority of Soviets believed in Communism, does that make it centrist? Centrism is a concrete thing, it doesn't change based on public opinion.
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@UmActually, Marist/Knights of Columbus poll released in January says 76%. Though 69% is still a majority...so, not sure what your point is.
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@UmActually, why would I get mad that the NRA donates money to politicians who agree with them. Do you get angry that planned Parenthood gives money to politicians?
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@talmet, Catholic fraternity org. Vs. Gallup. Also, very few americans believe in unlimited abortions, we don't know what the restrictions are that the 69% want.
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@talmet, No, but you call politicians that take money for their opinions "corporate shills." I'm pointing out hypocrisy in your belief system.
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@UmActually, Syrian refugees can't be vetted. I refer you to the Director of the Department of Homeland Security and the Director of the FBI. Both said under oath that we can't get refugees, we don't have the Intel to verify their identities, and we don't have the Intel to know who has terrorist ties even if we could verify their identities.
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@talmet, Incorrect. They said we couldn't get paperwork proving identity due to Syria's noncompliance, but we can still execute tests and evaluations and surveillance and we actively do that.
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@talmet, Here's the vetting process. The UN accesses what we have on them (medical records from hospitals that weren't destroyed, some school records, etc.) Then they are relocated to a camp. While there, they are either left (disqualified from relocation) or put under constant surveillance. While they are at the camp, they are put through psychological and physical evaluations. When they complete this, they are randomly assorted into the camps of countries that are taking in refugees. While there, in the United States one, for example, they are given more psychological and physical evaluations, they also have to pass a basic world history test and display English language proficiency. Would any member of ISIS be able to pass any of these tests? No. Have you seen the video of their "elite strike force?" They are untrained, uneducated, unequipped and unfunded. They aren't going to be able to pull off an MI-6 level infiltration and sleeper cell mission, since the selection process is
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@talmet, fully random. Most likely, their agents would be sent to Turkey.
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@big freedom, no he was forced to because she would kill his family if he didn't.
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@big freedom, I'm fairly certain he did it just to prove a point, namely that they are idiots and totally out of touch with voters. They think that all that had to do was force Bernie to concede and they would get his supporters. Never once crossed their mind his supporters chose him because he represented them. They forgot they need to actually win voters not just defeat their "leader"
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@big freedom, though I did feel the Bern and I'm upset that he didn't win the Democratic nomination, he's just doing what he had to. He thinks Hillary would make a better POTUS than Trump, which makes sense. He also held out his endorsement until Hillary adopted several of his most important views, such as free college tuition, the legalization of marijuana, and the much higher tax rate for those making much more money.
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@Formless, this would be true, IF his supporters actually turned out to vote in significant numbers. They won't. This is what the D's are counting on. Both parties are completely out of step with the rest of the country, which is how we got the 2 least popular candidates in our history. Now is the perfect time to vote libertarian, get an actual voice for the people, not special interests and status quo.
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@big freedom, he broke my heart
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@UmActually, the democrat platform (Hillary) is for completely unrestricted abortions. That is (by your own admission) a fringe extreme policy.
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@talmet, ...Yeah, centrists can have a couple extreme ideas, very few people are entirely one thing. I'm a centrist by the very definition and I believe in full legalization of recreational marijuana. You're pretty conservative, but I doubt you agree with everything that is said by the conservative platform.
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@UmActually, a corporate shill is someone who gives up their principles for money. A senator who believes in the 2nd amendment and accepts money from the NRA is not a corporate shill. A senator who has spoken against the 2nd amendment for years, then accepts NRA money and votes against a gun control bill is a corporate shill. When Hillary accepted a donation of 750,000 dollars from the bank in charge of the Keystone pipeline, and then as Secretary of State signed off on it (even though she had previously spoken against it) is a corporate shill. When she and her husband placed restrictions on India for testing nuclear weapons, and then a few years later she accepts tens of millions of dollars from Indian politicians and Hillary suddenly switches to supporting removing the restrictions...
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@UmActually, hahahaha!!! Yeah, we conduct "psychological tests...." How'd those tests work for the Boston marathon bombers? Oh...they didn't at all...doh! How'd they work for Germany, the Syrian refugee who tried to blow up a music festival last weekend, and instead just blew himself up, injuring 12 others? If we can't verify their identity, and we don't have the Intel to know who bad actors are (that is what the two directors said), then whatever psychological tests would be useless. Refugees are not required to know American history. That is idiotic. "Oh, Haitian refugee, an earthquake destroyed your country, and you're starving...before we let you in, who was America's 12th president?"
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@talmet, So Donald Trump is a corporate shill? Because he's been speaking against the NRA for the past 30 years until they financially started backing him with their official support.
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@talmet, 1. Yes, we do. Boston Bombers were radicalized here. Most German refugees are not official refugees recognized by the UN, since they crossed the border on foot and did not actually go through the system. 2. Yeah, because an uneducated member of ISIS can trick the CIA and FBI just because we can't verify identity. 3. Not American history, WORLD history, that's what I said. It's stuff like, "What is the organization formed after WW2 from the allies," and other basic questions. The refugees also spend up to 2,000 dollars as a down payment to be put in the system. The poor ones cross the border illegaly, meaning they aren't going through the system. That's like pointing at a dumb kid who never went to school and saying the school system failed to teach him.
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@big freedom, he did what he had to do to keep a position of some power. He didn't do it for free. He was promised something. Like maybe secretary of state.
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@talmet, the Majority of Americans are also inept at making these kinds of decisions. A wall would be the biggest waste of money the US has ever spent for one.
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@hollow114, lol! He did it because he sold out. He may have been promised something which will be absolutely forgotten about as soon as it's politically convenient.
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@big freedom, if any of you think a third candidate can win. Are probably too dim to vote. Politics is all about favors.
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@UmActually, Trump came out in favor of gun rights before the NRA did anything for him. He was against the 2nd amendment until around 10 years ago, the NRA didn't donate any money until a few months ago. 1) hahahah!!! What about the Iraqi refugees arrested for terrorism in Kentucky during November of 2015? 2) trick the CIA with what? "My name is Ali Muhammad, I never went to school, I can't write, and ISIS is trying to kill me." We can't verify or check anything in that statement. 3) because poor people in the Congo know about the UN? That's idiotic. America accepts over 70% of all refugees in the entire world every year. Most refugees are poor, and uneducated.
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@hollow114, according to the U.S. BorDer patrol, walls work. Also, they have endorsed Trump. Maybe, they know more about securing a border than you?
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@hollow114, so keep voting for the whores that fill the favors? Great idea.
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@talmet, 1. Yeah, but he was only in favor of limited ownership until the NRA provided monetary support. 2. So... what? Just like with gun ownership, some refugees are bad people, just like natural born Americans. You are more likely to be killed in a mass shooting than a terrorist attack. A lower percentage of refugees commit crimes than gun owners do. 3. Because that's the ENTIRETY of the process. 4. I'm saying that the refugees are usually moderately educated. It helps weed out people like the majority of ISIS who are in the lowest social class in their countries who didn't receive an education. 5. That's just flat out incorrect. Most refugees are rich where they are from, or at least middle class. The poor ones either stay nearby or seek asylum in areas with open borders
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@UmActually, 1) if he doesn't believe it, then yes. But people change their mind. If Hillary now supports nuclear proliferation, human rights violations, and deforesting the rain Forrest then she's not a corporate shill either. She's just a Fing evil person. 2) so, everything. Please, explain to the mothers/fathers/children of the dead why you could have saved their loved one..but you chose not to. 3) it really, really isn't. I don't know where you got the idea that refugees have to be educated, but they don't. That would completely negate the entire reason for the refugee process. 5) uh...no. Rich people aren't refugees, they "vacation" and if they are rich in places like the Congo or Syria, then they have money in bank accounts in the Cayman Islands or Switzerland (most likely stolen from the people in those countries). There is no such thing as a "middle class" in places that refugees come from...I.e. People in the Congo don't have a middle class. Everyone is dirt poor.
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@talmet, damb son couldnt have said it better myself. Upvote time.
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@talmet,1. Trump supports nationalism and censorship, his support comes from fascist groups. 2. Please explain to the parents of the dead why we could have stopped crazy people from getting guns but the NRA paid thousands so felons and schizophrenics can buy guns. 3. I don't think you know anything about the refugee process or the countries they come from. Syria wasn't a third world country until Russia began bombing the hell out of it. Middle class in Syria means having 2,000 dollars to shell out to get yourself and your family into the refugee system, but not having enough money or time to get passports and visas. Syrians can't sit around and wait for help, nor can the majority fight against ISIS's blitzkrieg tactics.
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@UmActually, cause that system has worked so great i refer you to mass rapes by migrants. And constant terrorist attacks since the migrants came to europe.
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@BlazingBowman, As I said, they didn't go through the system. Don't be dense.
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@UmActually, oh so you admit that most of the migramts flooding into europe are not given a backround check.
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@UmActually, 1) oh look, a liberal is calling the GOP racists and fascists. Maybe you guys can come up with new insults? Nobody trusts those anymore. Especially as every senator who was a KKK member was in the Democrat party. The last one was in the senate until 2010 (and Bill Clinton spoke at his funeral, and called the KKK member a "great guy") look up Robert Byrd, he was a grand dragon or something. 2) the NRA has never supported criminals/mentally unstable people getting guns. Crazy people can buy guns because the ACLU got a judge to say it was discrimination to assume someone was crazy (the NRA was on the other side). 3) if the country is bombed out, people lose their money...most people's wealth is tied into their homes. When a town is bombed, most people become broke (unless they have insurance, which wasn't common in the Middle East). According to Interpol, over 50% of all "Syrian" refugees have fake papers purchased from criminal organizations.
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@talmet, 1. Most recent KKK grand dragon is running as a republican. 2. NRA opposes all forms of gun control 3. No, people can have paper money. 4. Close-ish. 250,000 Syrian passports were stolen. Not close to half of the 4 million Syrian refugees.
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@BlazingBowman, Not exactly. The ones that arrived first came in before the UN declared them refugees. Those were the ones that had the majority of the people involved in the crime wave. The ones that have been checked have, so far, been 100% safe, but it's been less than a year. To put it into perspective, of all of the refugees from Syria the US ever excepted, none have ever been registered on a terror watch list by the US or any other foreign watch list. And of all the refugees the US has accepted since 9/11, 5 have been registered, and none by the DHS, all by foreign countries.
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@UmActually, yeah you cant wipe what they believe though their views on gays and women for example. Naw im sure they mostly have pc views on gays and women though.
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@BlazingBowman, The purpose of the government is not to police what people believe, the US often does that, though (see:the majority of the South barring athiests from serving in state offices). If someone wants to hate gays, sure, they can do that, they're assholes, but it isn't my business.
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@UmActually, just cause they dont vote for them because theyre athiest doesnt mean the u.s is banning thought crimes although the left has been pushing for that for awhile. I.e disagree with me and your a racist.
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@big freedom, unfortunately yes. Focus on the Senate instead. And maybe abolish the first past the post voting method.
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@UmActually, besides the point they believe that women ar commodities, a few women in germany are being killed by migrants because they ended relationships with them. You dont get to do that in their countries and custom. And no matter what your interpretation of the quran is the majority of these migrants think homosexualitt should be criminalized.
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@talmet, no, they don't. Since there are easier and cheaper alternatives. Like ending the war on drugs. A wall will cost 33b. And 7b a year very year after. Not to mention having to buy land from Americans. And figuring out the Rio grande treaty.
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@BlazingBowman, HA! No, it's literally in 10 states constitutions.
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@hollow114, yeah but the mexicans will pay for it 😂
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@BlazingBowman, Source on the killings? And Mexico won't pay for that wall, don't be stupid. 😂😂😂
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@UmActually, never heard of it but if it is it violates the constitution of the u.s and therefore would lose. But i think thats bullcrap because it would come up alot and the athiest community would be pushing for it to end pretty hard.
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@UmActually, republicans are the worst kind of anti constitutionalists. The only logical choice is libertarian.
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@hollow114, the senate wants to keep things they way they are. Keep doing what you've always done, keep getting the same results. Or, vote 3rd party at every single available option. Let the D's and R's know they don't own your vote. Then you'll get real change.
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@BlazingBowman, A wall will require building it. Through American owned property. the border isn't a straight and perfect line.
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@UmActually, the naked ape alot of these stories font get news coverings the other day a priest was pulled out of a church and decapitated.
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@BlazingBowman, These are standing laws in the books in North and South Carolina, Virginia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tenessee, Missouri, Georgia and Alaska.
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@BlazingBowman, The Naked Ape? The Zoology textbook from 1976?
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@hollow114, yeah i know it isnt a line but i dont care
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@UmActually, naw a youtuber who often cites his sources most do.
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@hollow114, I agree. I'm a Canadian who lived in America for the majority of my life. I always voted libertarian, except for 2008, I couldn't help it, I voted Barack. 😉
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@UmActually, i could litterally find zero results on athiests not being allowed to take office. I know alot of people who would kick up a fuss over that kind of thing. If it is in the constitution of that state they dont follow it. But i still think your full of crap.
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@BlazingBowman, Quote from the New York times (1st result): "The six states besides Maryland with language in their constitutions that prohibits people who do not believe in God from holding office are Arkansas, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas." Holy shjt, I was wrong on the states. Sorry about that.
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@big freedom, politicians don't belive in 90% of what they advertise. They just market ideas that will capture votes and sponsors.
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@BlazingBowman, You didn't look really hard, did you? Because I typed in "Athiests not allowed to hold office" and that was the first fvcking result.
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@UmActually, yeah i did find something apparently all these constitutions are trumped by the " no religious test clause" so basicly its a non issue athiests can take office in these states despite the archaic constitution.
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@BlazingBowman, It's a non-issue? No, I'd say it's a pretty big issue, the fact that people actually had to fight to have the clause removed.
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@UmActually, yeah well wr had a really christian fundamentalest past. We had all sorts of wierd backwards beliefs way back in the 1700s we changed though the migrants havent. We had to force the muslim world to give up slavery, many people in saudi arabia still refer to the black people who managed to survive as slaves. America isnt perfect but were a hell of a lot better and more tolerant than any muslim country whos laws are almost always based of sharia.
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@BlazingBowman, So the pastors who call for capitol punishment for homosexuals is tolerant and not archaic.
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@UmActually, yeah you see the difference is that when a christian pastor says something like that WE DONT ACTUALLY GO AND CUT THE GUYS HEAF OFF!!! In america we have the right to say whatever we want to and some people will say horrible stuff and we have to deal with that. Americas not perfect we have alot of problems we need to deal with corruption in our government for instance. But when you compare curruption in our governemnts in the west to almost anywhere else in the world its not even comparible. Right now we have the right to make fun of muhhammad they dont have that right in europe anymore because whenever they do MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS RIOT IN THE STREETS and inevitably people die. You act as if our society is garbage you once told me were the barbarians not them. If you paid attention at all you would know thats bull. Their is so much wrong in their society so much of it they will bring over to us you need to wake up because rome is burning and you are fanning the flames.
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@BlazingBowman, I never said that, but ok. You're entitled to your opinions, no matter how close minded and reactionary they are. This conversation is over.
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@UmActually, yes you did not today but a few days ago, its not reactionary and their is no good solution for europe down the road people are going to die the citizens will get get tired of the constant terror attacks and many muslims will suffer for it. Im trying to avoid putting america in the same situation.
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@big freedom, Jill Stein 2016!! Theres still a 3rd party
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@talmet, Based Tamlet
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@big freedom, if he ran his own campaign, he would split the Democratic Party and basically give trump the presidency. If he ran, neither Hillary nor him would win, so it makes sense to support her.
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@UmActually, 1) anybody can run as anything. But the only KKK members who have ever won an election, were democrats. Sorry, the democrat party was and is the party of racists. Here's a nice quote you can look up from 2008, Bill Clinton talking about Obama "you know, not too long ago that boy would be getting us our coffee." That is incredibly racist. 2) Incorrect, the NRA opposes stupid gun control. But they oppose felons and crazy people buying guns. They support required gun safety classes for gun owners. Oh, and they support the "no fly, no buy" idea with the requirement that anyone on the terrorist watch list can appeal and force the government to justify their name on the list within X days, or their name is removed. 3) people can have paper money, but the vast majority of anyone's wealth is in their home/car/possessions. 4) That wasn't my number, it was Interpol. 250,000 passports were stolen, but there's also something call forgeries.
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@hollow114, the U.S. Border patrol disagrees with you, and I think they know more about border security than you (as that's their job).
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@UmActually, what pastors call for the capital punishment of homosexuals? Provide a source for that please.
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@talmet, and engineers have said it will cost 33 billion. And they know more than some Hicks with a military budget Texas takes from education.
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@talmet, literally Google it. So many. Even representatives have said we should stone gay people. But whatever let's you hold onto your redneck values. Amiright.
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@hollow114, 33 billion?? Wow...so, like a rounding error on the federal budget? 2016 federal budget is around 4 trillion dollars, that means the wall would be around 0.75% of the budget...that's so much! An engineer would know more about building it, they would not know more about how to stop criminals....I feel like that should be obvious to you. Huh...I never knew there were such wackado Christian pastors. Nevertheless, there are 10 Muslim countries today where being a homosexual is a capital offense. Yemen, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudia Arabia, Afganistan, Somalia, Sudan, UAE. Not to mention ISIS which throws gays off of buildings, drowns them locked in cages, and dunks them in acid.... Oh, and I'm not a redneck...I'm not white, I've never lived in the south, I have a doctorate degree in high energy particle physics and a masters in applied mathematics, I've been a full tenured professor of physics for 10 years, and just became the head of the physics department
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@talmet, 33 billion. Roughly the money needed to put kids through college. But let's remember. That 33 billion will need to be doubled in 6 years for upkeep.
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@talmet, and I'm Robert Downey Jr.
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@hollow114, college tuition needs to be dealt with at the college level. Tuition keeps rising, because the federal government pays for it (Obama took over the student loan program). If the federal government keeps paying for it (or pays off all the loans), then colleges will just keep raising tuition.
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@talmet, hop over to a world studies class at your university and see how other countries can pull it off. And universal healthcare too!
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@hollow114, oh, and college tuition for all students would be more than 33 billion. According to the US department of education there are around 20.4 million college students in America. Instate average cost: 17,131 Out of state average cost: 29,657 Private average cost: 38,589 16% of students attend private college 10% of students in public universities are out of state, therefore 8.4% are out of state and 76.6% are in state. Instate total cost: $2.642*10^11 Out of state cost: $5.082*10^10 Private cost: $1.2595*10^11 Total yearly cost: 440 billion dollars. Which, according to the White House is more than: Medicaid, food and nutrition assistance, housing assistance, all transportation So cheap...just like, 75% of the entire welfare budget.
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@hollow114, other countries pull it off because they rely on us to protect them. Only three countries in all of NATO supply the required amount as per the NATO treaty, and we pick up the slack for all the countries that don't. That is one of the things Trump is being attack for, he brought up the fact that we are paying to much into NATO, and that we could use that money here...
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@hollow114, nope, Robert Downey Jr. Is a republican.
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@talmet, that tired old BS we pay to protect them thing is old. No, w spend 500 billion on war because Lockheed Martin pays for our senators.
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@talmet, paying too much into NATO? Lol. How about we stop subsiding big business first. But you'd never suggest something so logical. Because you're brainwashed by tired trickle down ideologies.
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@hollow114, actually, I completely agree that we should stop all corporate welfare. Cronyism is destroying our country. However, we do pay more than our obligations to NATO and to the UN. We supply more than 80% of all NATO supplies, and provide more than 75% of the UNs budget. If those were reduced to a reasonable amount (I.e. It makes no sense that we pay more than triple what China pays to the UN), and we stopped all corporate welfare we'd have quite a lot of money to spend on this country.
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@talmet, I'm a libertarian that thinks socialism should be applied to needs only. And free market should be applied to wants. With utilitarianism ideals deciding what deserves to be a need.
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@talmet, Wanna do some math? Take the amount of guns I own and multiply it by the number of people I've harmed with said guns. It equals how much I support Hitlery.
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@hollow114, socialism applied to needs? You mean like food stamps/housing assistance for the poor? I agree. Though I think you think for some reason that a college education is a "need." It isn't, many people make a good living without going to college: plumbers, carpenters, etc...you can make 70k+ a year after two years as a stone mason (there was a story a while back about how it's a great paying job, but nobody signs up for it anymore.)
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@Gollum Fetish, lol, so...zero? I'm hoping zero anyway, I don't know if you've ever harmed anyone with a gun (I.e. Military service).
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@talmet, Yes, zero lol. Not Military Service yet, but hopefully in the future. Not sure how any Servicemen could support someone so careless.
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@Gollum Fetish, idk, people can do stupid things. I am a navy vet (medical discharge just under 2 years of service), and I wish you well if you do end up joining...well, I wish most people well, regardless of military service, but hopefully you know what I mean.
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@talmet, Yeah, Navy is actually where I want to go. I'm trying to get into the Naval Academy. It will give me time to study engineering, but also allow me to serve in active duty. If I don't get in there, I'll probably go ROTC at a different college.
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@talmet, 97% of Americans are idiots😂😭. Sorry for trolling mate, it was toooo easy. Love you America!
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@Gollum Fetish, good luck :), the naval academy isn't easy to get into. But it is a very good engineering program, so it's a good goal.
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@talmet, Very good is an understatement. What did you do in the Navy?
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@Gollum Fetish, nuclear electronics technician (power, not missiles), submarines. I think the Naval Academy is rated like the top 5 or top 10 programs in the country.
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@talmet, I want to go for nuclear engineering. And USNA's Mech E. falls second to MIT's. So it's a pretty good deal, considering there's no debt.
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@Gollum Fetish, navy nuclear power system is very good. It's how I got my BS (I didn't go officer, but just the training given to enlisted people was enough to fulfill almost all of a BS in nuclear engineering at a good enough school to get me into a doctorate program at one of the better physics programs. The USN system is very good :)
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@talmet, i think you win buddy, holy crap this is the longest comment thread I've ever seen
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@talmet, it isn't in a system created where it isnt. Because we let corporations run our lives it is a nessesity. Since they aren't willing to train their own workers. A HD diploma should be good enough. But it isn't. Paying for 2year schools is a great first step.
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@hollow114, you don't need a college degree to work as in any trade (carpentry, plumbing, stone mason, etc) those are all very very good paying jobs. You need a college degree if you want to work in a field that requires it. But that is your choice (and sometimes, it's a stupid choice. I.e. People who work in retail with a degree in literature.) You don't need a degree in the same way that you need food, or need a place to live. Many people live very good lives, own very nice homes, and retire very well who never went to college.
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@talmet, just want to point out your stats are very incorrect. They are probably given by Trump or his constituents, who are more than often corrected and fact checked
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@SterIing Archer, uh, nope. Those are correct. And I've already had this discussion in this thread. Someone else went and checked them (sometimes polls find different numbers, so sometimes we agreed, and sometimes not), and I gave sources for some of them. Sorry to burst your bubble, but liberalism has never been even close to a majority in America. This has been, and still is a "center-right" country.
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@talmet, actually conservatives make up 40% of the country. There is definitely a majority of conservatives, but it only shows when larger numbers of people go to the polls, as conservatives are historically much more likely to go vote.
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@SterIing Archer, er I meant to say that there is definitely a majority of liberals, but it only shows when large numbers of people go to the polls
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@SterIing Archer, uh...no. About 40% are conservative. About 40% are moderate. About 20% are liberal. That's why the country is a "center-right" country. Sorry, go check your facts.
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This is extremely funny. One cuck down, one Shillery to go.
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Good grief!
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Am I the only one voting for her?
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@Marshall Lee, Nah.
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@Marshall Lee, I really hope so
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@Marshall Lee, what about her do you like? Which policies do you support?
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@big freedom, mainly policies on immigration and abortion, i love her vice president and the fact she gets to work with Bernie samders. my thing is I just don't want Donald Trump as president, I really don't, they both aren't perfect, no where near, but I honestly can't put someone in the white house who doesn't think before speaking.
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@Marshall Lee, I just can't understand how anyone can get behind her. I mean I don't see how anyone can trust after all of the failed policies she's put in and all of the times she's lied to the country. just the sound of her voice makes me cringe
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@ArnoldSchwarzenegrer, it's the same way I look at trump. But instead of policies it's every business and person he's screwed over.
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@Marshall Lee, yea but trump is a business man, you can't get to the top without taking others out.
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@ArnoldSchwarzenegrer, it doesn't matter if he's a business man if all of his ventures have failed, that's not a good leader, plus how does mistreating his own employees show a great leader? Also his stance on immigration, he requests so many visas for his employees, it's ironic.
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@Marshall Lee, I don't know where you got the idea that all of his business ventures have failed when only a small percent of his projects have failed. Of course the media only focus on some of his weirder things he's done like trump vodka and trump airlines, instead of looking at all the things he's done that's made him a lot of money.
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@ArnoldSchwarzenegrer, my point is they've both lied, they've both had their failures, I don't know how she's worse then him in all honesty, at least she's not making fun of the disabled or hispanic judges or saying that women who have abortions should receive punishment.
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Everybody still likes Charlie Brown better though
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Hillary can suck a left one
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*runs away from all the political arguments*
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I think Hillary actually wore that exact outfit.
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Im just kinda happy bernie didnt go after trump like every other speaker so far. I mean really the dnc is starting to sound like a middle school debate club.
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The most accurate political cartoon I've ever seen.
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Well so much for funny pics
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This makes much more sense
I can't believe he sold out and endorsed the evil Wall St whore. Way to completely throw away everything you believe in.