I don't think it's anyone's fault for "triggering" someone. Getting mad at someone for triggering you, is more about your flaws, than it is about theirs. Surely this line of thinking will offend someone though.
@Mr Literal, ummm your blatant disregard for my weaknesses as a human is making me feel threatened. #TRIGGERED
@Mr Literal, I was actually super #triggered before I read your comment. However, you seem to have defused me.
@Mr Literal, I believe there is more nuance to it than that, for example many people make inflammatory comments with the intention of starting an argument, and I believe people have the right to be upset about things like this(Ex. Blatantly bigoted statements). However, if someone is genuinely trying to hold a conversation about a touchy subject, and someone gets "triggered," then I agree with your analysis completely.
@Mr Literal, can we philosiphize some time?
@Mr Literal, Not always. If you were talking to (let's go with an extreme example here) someone whose entire family had just been murdered and you made an axe-murderer joke, they'd be upset and that's kinda your fault.
If, on the other hand, you made the same joke elsewhere and someone got upset because they don't like the concept of axe-murderers/felt you weren't sensitive enough to any hypothetical axe-murder victims that could potentially have overheard you, that's them being an over-sensitive prick.
@Mr Literal, I think warnings are helpful, because there's no harm in taking five seconds out of your day to do something to benefit persons reading your article who may be negatively affected by it, but yeah, I definitely think people should be demonised for choosing not to. I do think it can be helpful, though, because someone with PTSD from a rape might think "hey, this is an article about crime, I can read this" but then there's an explicit first person account of a rape and that's distressing for them, all of which could be avoided by a quick disclaimer that the article includes graphic descriptions of rape.
This was a ramble, I don't even know if I made any sense.
@Nellybert , In that case, that's just someone being insensitive... however If the person making the joke didn't know the axe murder happened... Then getting angry at them solves nothing. I consider "being triggered" to be invalid if the other person has no idea it's something that upsets you. I guess I just feel that requiring or expecting the entire world to warn you when it may say something offensive or upsetting is unessecary. There are far too many things that exist that could upset someone.
@Mr Literal, Well of course you can't look at someone and know that they've been through a traumatic experience but if you do say something to bring on flashbacks or a panic attack or something like that and they're upset with you afterwards you can't really blame them. You made them feel like shjt, whether it was an accident or not.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , There is no good reason to hold it against someone for accidently making you upset. This falls in the same category as assuming someone's gender. I support LGBTQ individuals , wholeheartedly. but when someone I just met 'angrily' corrects me when I use the wrong identifier (for that very first time) I find that to be more rude than the mistake I made. I will already feel silly for what I did and gladly apologize making every effort going forward to use the right one. And It's just as easy to correct me with a smile.
@Mr Literal, trigglypuffed
@Mr Literal, There's no good reason, but emotions and mental illnesses aren't really things that you can reason with. That person probably wishes they didn't have to go through what they do and feel how they feel, but shjt happens. You can't police others feelings just because you think they aren't reasonable.
@Mr Literal, I used to be a speech and debate coach. During a meet , a student from another school came in and read a piece on suicide. One of my very best friends had just committed suicide earlier that same week. I of course became sad ... But I sat through the piece respectfully, and then excused myself. I never told the reader she had upset me personally. Nor was I upset with her for reading a peice that mattered to her. Pain and sadness are natural things, and people can't learn to cope if anger and avoidance is there only response. We wonder why so many people are diagnosed with depression these days...
@Mr Literal, You say this like it's an unpopular opinion.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , as for policing others emotions, that's not really what I was implying should be done. I just feel that if you are one of those who is capable of doing so, it's better to think more about how you may effect others by what you say, and think less about how they effect you, at least when it comes to anger.
@Mr Literal, I think you're largely right, which is what I was trying to say in the second half of my reply - although I'd expand it to include times when the person is getting upset for a stupid reason. Like when some students studying law at Oxford university asked for trigger warnings before violent crimes were mentioned.
Seriously - they want to go in to a career in law, but don't want to be exposed to learning about violent crime.....
@Mr Literal, we actually tried to explain the idea in our write up in DC Literature today, and no one even the teacher was really sure where it started or how effective it really is
@MedalDeliveryMan, the issue isn't that people are upset by things, the issue is that people demand these things be censored and banned by government.
They refuse to tolerate people because of their ideals or beliefs. They are, by definition, bigots.
@MedalDeliveryMan, all blacks are n1ggers.
@Mr Literal, An important part of life is realizing that the world doesn't cater to you, and you can't expect everyone to be as sensitive to specific situations.
@MedalDeliveryMan, I don't know I mean it's the Internet, if you decide to read an angry or insulting comment that's on you. You have the ability to move on and in no way will anyone likely ever know you were offended. I mean you have the right to feel however you want but they have the right to post about what they want just as you have the right to either agree and comment your agreement, agree and move on, do nothing, disagree and comment, disagree and move on and finally those poor souls who know they don't have a leg to stand on can always point out a spelling or grammatical error. Those are your rights on the Internet as I see them. Not one of which is the right to never be offended.
@Mr Literal, personally...if i offend you by me being myself and not overstepping my little PC...good..because then you know what yourself needs to have fixed or worked on. And i apologize, but if i trigger you, then so be it. I will not bow to another person because they have a sensitivity. I have a lot going against me too, man...woman..toaster..w/e.
Did you just assume my trigger? *gendered*
I am triggered
Several years ago someone complained to the BBC that they showed the film Arachnophobia without warning that it had spiders in it, so they watched it and it triggered their arachnophobia. We laughed at this person then, but now they'd probably sue and have a social media campaign launched on their behalf....
@Nellybert , the fvcking movie is called "Arachnophobia"! Were they expecting kittens?? Like wtf people, seriously
@Not him again, This was in the age before tumblr, when we could still be surprised by human stupidity.
Feel that chill? It's a blizzard full of special little snowflakes.
What did you just say to me?!
"I said trigger."
@Bow To Your Senpai, "what's up my trigger"
Yo, I heard you like trigger warnings,....
easily offended people are weak and should only be kept around incase of a food shortage.
@jacked the ripped, what about people with legitimate PTSD?
Remember when the term "triggered" used to mean you were either overly sensitive or too close minded to look at something from any other point of view?
Your maturity can't possibly go farther than your temper. Remember that before you become triggered
So you just gonna assume I'm triggered , God that triggers me
I identify as a gun, and I find this term "trigger" very offensive. You need to stop.
I could be triggered by the word trigger.... my ex-boyfriend pointed a gun at me on several occasions, and also forced me put my finger on the trigger to try to make me shoot him in the head.
I still have nightmares and... only one time an anxiety attack when I was watching a murder-show about a girl who got killed in her place of work by her abusive ex-boyfriend, and I'm like, "it could have been me so easily, I could be dead."
But I obviously knew what I was getting into when I put on the show.
So I'm generally not a weiner about it. Sorry so personal.
This triggered me
Started my third year of college today and I'm already failing