Some people would be looking like an eagle scout with the number of identities they'd have
@Paincakes, as an eagle scout, I can confirm that's a lot of badges/pins
@Paincakes, I laughed so hard. Thank you
@Paincakes, there's one on Tumblr in particular, who I hope to god is a troll. They think they're trigender bicolour squirrelkin. Bicolour for the squirrel part, both grey and red squirrel. If she's serious then she's certifiable. She'd definitely have a few badges.
@Deanmon, I saw a thing on tumblr where a guy asked a dragonkin how he could be a dragon when dragons aren't real. He went on a rant that amounted to 'screw science, I'm a dragon'. I wished I could reach through the screen and smack some sense into him, then I realized that would probably require a sledgehammer.
@Richard Cypher, favorite character right here
The doctor said I should stay away from trans fats. So I quit tumblr
@Sexy Homunculus, first class comment right here
@Sexy Homunculus, all I can say is wow that has to be one of the best comments I've ever read.
@Sexy Homunculus, #bestcomments
Advice mallard gone sassy
....can I wear one so people stay away from me anyways?
@The Goshdarn Batman, your face will do.
@Liquid Stuff, *shots fired*
@Liquid Stuff, guess I'll just have to.....FACE the facts....
@The Goshdarn Batman, get out
@The Goshdarn Batman, you'll just scare them away.
I don't understand the concept of non binary gender. I understand having different types of sexualities but being gay doesn't change the fact that you're a male/:
@hodorhodor, non-binary doesn't mean you're gay - you can be non-binary and attracted to people whose gender differs from your birth gender.
Non-binary means you don't identify with 'masculine' or 'feminine' - cos that would be fukkin mainstream. No, non-binary is taking being a damn hipster to a whole new level just so you can be a special little snowflake.
@Nellybert , To clarify, I have no issue with non-binary/genderqueer/plain ol' homosexuals etc. I simply joke about them in the same way I would about myself or anyone else, because I don't discriminate like that.
@hodorhodor, sexuality and gender are two different things. you can be trans (FtM, MtF, or non-binary) and be, straight, gay, bi/pan, ace, whatever, same as cis people. Having a non-binary gender just means your brain isn't wired as "male" or "female" and you might feel like both, neither, or some other combination. Yes, the list of non-binary genders is a bit long, but the idea of non-binary gender is not a new one, and several cultures have three genders.
@hodorhodor, basically is a bunch of idiots thinking that having a tall list of mental disorders means they're special
@Nellybert , they just feel genuine discomfort identifying as either male or female gender roles most of the time. They are just trying to come to terms with how they feel on the inside most of the time (maybe some people seek attention sure, but from my experience the vast majority of these people are just trying to stop feeling like they're hiding who they are inside), and aren't affecting anyone by doing this so I don't see why people get so amped up about it
@Nellybert , there's nothing wrong with being a feminine guy (or masculine girl), but pretending you're something you aren't instead of accepting reality is pitiful.
@Cpzombie, that's not how it works though. I was born female. I know that I'm a guy. I strongly feel that my body is wrong and that I should have been born physically male. And even though I'm trans, I'm a feminine guy. I'm queer, my favorite color is purple, I like eyeliner and nail polish, I have long hair. So why didn't I just stay a woman? Because I never was one, body exempted. Gender expression (feminine), gender identity (man), and sex (female) are all different things and it's way more complicated than you make it out to be.
@Ruupasya, no, you're a girl. You have the eyes of a girl, the reproductive system of a girl, and the brain of a girl. Therefore: you're a girl.
@Cpzombie, your brain is simply a part of your body, so you obviously should've been born a girl.
@Cpzombie, there have been studies showing that trans men have brain activity more similar to cis men than to cis women, and vice versa for trans women. Being transgender is not made up. It's scientifically supported. Also, why would anyone choose to be transgender? Being transgender means having a higher rate of being raped, beaten, and killed, just for being who you are. Who would choose something like that?
Also, there's no need to downvote someone just because you disagree with them. I was trying to have an actual conversation with you. I should know better from the last time I tried to educate you about this stuff.
@Ruupasya, the downvote button is there to show that I disagree. Don't they give trans people hormones to make them more like the opposite sex?
This is completely true... no one wants to deal with these fake feminists and fake gender naming people. Never seen or heard a happy one who is positive to be around or is funny or charismatic.
This is a serious question, now isn't gender and sexual preference different? Let me explain what I mean by this, there can be any number of different sexual preferences be it a guy liking other guys etc. But isn't there only 2 genders by definition? Like I don't see how if I am a male and I like females as well as sometimes men, wouldn't my gender be male, but sexual preference be bi? I am not trying to create a flame war or anything just mere speculation.
@BangSplatt, I don't know much about this but gender win your sense is sex. Like the female sex and male sex that is defined by your genitalia. I don't quite know what it means to identify as a certain gender or not. Usually people say they prefer he/him, she/her, they/them pronouns. It doesn't make much sense to me but that's the extent I know
@Basil Fawlty, same I really don't understand and wanted to know.
@BangSplatt, gender is male or female, look down and see if you have a dick to figure out which you are. If you like both men and women you're gay, if you like men women and idiots you're pansexual.
@BangSplatt, There are four things at play here. I'll use myself as an example. There's physical sex, which is things like genitals and chromosomes. I'm genetically female. There's gender identity, which is the feeling in your head of being a man/woman/both/neither. I'm a guy, so people call me he and him. Being transgender means that your gender identity is different from your physical sex. Then there's gender roles and expression, which are things such as liking makeup or wearing ties or going shopping for fun. You can be masculine, feminine, or something in the middle (androgyne). Imagine it like a line: femininemasculine. Anyone, transgender or cisgender, can be anywhere on the line and where you are on that line might change over time. I'm kind of between feminine and androgynous. My go-to outfit is jeans and a plain t-shirt, but I also have long hair and my favorite color is purple and I like twirling and stuff. Sexual orientation is last...
@BangSplatt, ...and sexual orientation has nothing to do with the other three. If you are sexually attracted to people of the same gender (gender, not sex), you're gay. If you are sexually attracted to people of a different gender, you're straight. If you are sexually attracted to people of all genders, you're bi/pan. If you are not sexually attracted to anyone, regardless of gender, you're ace. It's more complicated than that, though. You can look up the Kinsey scale if you want more information on how sexual attraction isn't as black and white (or gay and straight as it may be lol) as people think. It's entirely possible, for example, to be a mostly straight man attracted to a man.
So, summing up me as an example, I am a sort of feminine, pansexual trans guy. This means that I'm a guy who was born female, I'm a little girly for a guy, and I am attracted to people of all genders.
There are nearly infinite combos of sex, gender identity, gender expression, and sexual orientation.
@Ruupasya, thank you for helping me out instead of just yelling BIGOT!
@BangSplatt, thanks for actually being willing to learn. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Oh man the anti lgbt stance is getting really vocal
The concept of a non binary gender isn't really that hard tho. I know people like this that are wonderful humans
@Ostrich Thief, What I don't get is when people say that they're non-binary because they alternate between 'masculine' and 'feminine'. Sometimes I have days when I want to pick fights with strangers in a testosterone fuelled rage (I don't do it though, cos I'm too nice and not that hard) and others when I want to hide from the world and eat ice cream in my pjs. That doesn't make me non-binary or not a man, just means I'm human!
@Nellybert , The difference is that what you are describing is your own personal embracing or bucking of gender based expectations. But regardless of how you act, society treats men and women differently. So it's seems to be about wanting to fit into a certain place in society more than wanting to act a certain way.
@JJJSchmidt, Sorry, are you saying it's me wanting to fit in or them? Just making sure I follow before I reply. :)
@Nellybert , true! Very true. I always thought when I felt such opposing things like this that I had multiple personalities! Good to know I'm normal though!
@Nellybert , Them. For you you might enjoy doing things that might be associated with the other gender sometimes but still want to be treated as what you were born as. Trans people want to be treated as the other.
@IAmTheWalrus9, As long as its ice cream you're fine - if it's frozen yogurt then you are just weird. :)
@Nellybert , Of course! Frozen yogurt is disgusting!
@JJJSchmidt, Straight up trans I get - body says one gender, mind says the other.
It's when people start creating extra 'genders' (gender fluid, non-binary, Neutrois, Aliusgender and so on) that I get confused.
I'm not saying that they're 'wrong' just that I - so this is about me, not a judgement on anyone else - don't get it.
@JJJSchmidt, If we got rid of all the gender based expectations be just let people be people, we probably wouldn't need all these labels!
@Nellybert , I don't exactly understand that either. Granted I'm a cis, hetero, white male so the only experience I have with most of this is from an anthropological perspective. But it seems to me that while those extra genders don't really hold any meaning in American Culture at large, I would hypothesize that among the LGBTetc community they have some kind of association that people understand. So just like you recognize the difference between a man and a woman and behave accordingly, the people who third-gendered people hang out with view and treat you in a certain way depending on what specific alternate gender you are.
@Nellybert , I can be of assistance here. If you haven't done much research into it the route of our two gender system is directly related to capitalism. Having two distinct labels is just easier to market to, so much so it's ingrained in American culture, and growing up with only two identities shown in culture can be confusing when new ones pop up. Like people raised in a white room refusing to believe there is any color but white. But yeah the psychology and background is very interesting to study
@Kakashi Hitake, Capitalism? I always thought it was more about sex.
The more you know....
@Nellybert , well it's the reason young justice was cancelled so
@Kakashi Hitake, huh?
@Nellybert , too many girls liked the show and so it became too hard to market to, and the company cancelled it.
@Kakashi Hitake, That seems odd to me, but I have no way to confirm or deny it so I'll just nod and smile. :)
@Kakashi Hitake, Ah, okay, I Googled it. The show was basically advertising for toys, Matel pulled the toys due to falling sales and so the show got canned. Not sure I agree with the idea that 'girls don't buy toys though'.
@Nellybert , I think it's just about not being put into a box. Have you noticed how limited kids are because of their gender? The boys play rough in block and the girls play gently in housekeeping. Nobody directly makes them do it, but how they're treated based on their gender affects their gender and when they try to do something different they get a negative response and are forced back into their expected gender roles.
@notMrWonka, Fair point about adults defining kids. I guess my parents were more forward-thinking liberals than I realised - I grew up playing with both Transformers and Care Bears. (No sisters, just an older brother - and I'd identify as a cisgen, white 30something male. So playing with "girl's" toys didn't do me any harm).
@Nellybert , what you're describing is gender fluidity, which is a bit different from being non-binary. Non-binary simply means you feel discomfort identifying with the sex you were born with, but would also feel discomfort if your gender were the opposite. These people just fall between the two and don't identify either direction
@Nellybert , gender fluidity is what you're talking about. And it's hard to understand when we aren't actually experiencing what these people feel like, but oftentimes they feel genuinely extreme discomfort with identifying as either gender on a given day. This seems ridiculous on the surface I know, but it is the reality of how these people feel. And regardless of that, it doesn't really affect us in any way whatsoever so I don't understand the non-traditional gender backlash that has become so common lately. It doesn't impact anyone other than them unless they were absolute assholes about using their pronouns which in my experience doesn't happen if it is an honest mistake and only happens if you're trying to antagonize them. Let people do what they want if it doesn't hurt anyone is my motto
@Ostrich Thief, It's not about judging; I honestly don't understand it. It's like how some straight men don't "get" that I am attracted to men, I think. We just have such different life experiences. It's amazing really. But I wish I understood this better so I could be more effectively supportive.
@Nellybert , you're lucky! I wanted to raise my daughter like baby storm, but I knew I wouldn't have the support to do it.
@Ostrich Thief, Because it's an invention of the last five to ten years. Our parents didn't do this. Nor our grandparents. It's teenagers wanting to be all edgy and treated special and unique, just like everyone else. How many teenagers strutted around identifying as gay while never having a same-sex relationship just because they wanted to buck the system?
The behavior at its base goes all the way back to our grandparents daring to watch Elvis dance. It's not a real thing. It's a legitimate issue that afflicts a minority being coopted by entitled teenagers.
See also: transethnic, otherkin, pretty much every other term that originated in Tumblr.
@HiroAntagonist, but don't you think it's possible that it has only been in the past 5-10 years people that have always felt these things now feel like they can be true to themselves without alienating everyone they've ever known and loved?
@Ostrich Thief, No. Not suddenly, en masse, and demanding special treatment. The friends I have that are actually gay struggled for years to come to terms with how they felt. They never started a blog at age fifteen proclaiming their queerness and screaming at people to accept them for what they are. They still don't. It was private and personal then, and still is for them now.
@HiroAntagonist, I think you are highly exaggerating the behavior of these people. Those I know that have struggled to come to terms with their sexuality or gender identity struggled for a long while before they came out and were absolutely terrified to do so. I've never met someone in the LGBT community that behaved the way you describe, and I'm a millennial with several gay and trans friends. What special treatment are you describing?
@HiroAntagonist, also oftentimes the loudest and most obnoxious, however small they may be, can easily outshout an entire crowd of quiet and respectful people
@Ostrich Thief, That's the difference I'm describing. There are those people that legitimately struggle with issues or differences or what you want to call them, and those that use those people that use them as a means to get the treatment, positive and negative, that they crave, solely for that purpose. It's an overused joke but has a ring of truth: look at Tumblr, Facebook, various social apps. You'll find that the largest group proclaiming themselves non-standard genders or sexualities are between the ages of 15 and 20.
@Ostrich Thief, Absolutely. But that does not deny their existence, and it is those sorts of people that I, and this joke, refer to
@HiroAntagonist, so basically, you believe they are lying about their sexuality/gender identity to gain attention. I simply disagree with your hypothesis. I've never met someone I thought was faking anything in that realm for attention. These people often get made fun of and fvcked with endlessly for coming out if they're in high school and even still risk severing family ties if they're in college. Those I know wish they didn't have these feelings and just wish they could feel accepted regardless. I personally have never seen someone who was gay or trans that was seeking attention and wasn't completely legitimate and I am under the belief that today younger people are simply less afraid to come out than preceding generations because they see more and more people around them doing the same.
@Ostrich Thief, And I concede that that may be the case for certain people. But as you stated, the LGBT I know would never have welcomed the ridicule by shouting on social media platforms.
It is a legitimate, psychological fact that there are some types of people that crave attention, and will take the negative just as readily as the positive. I'm not questioning the legitimacy of every single person the identifies a particular way. I do wholeheartedly question the legitimacy of people that demand made up words be used for them specifically lest their anger be turned upon you.
If you've not seen this sort of behavior, I know of a few Tumblr blogs that will give you prime examples.
@HiroAntagonist, also remember 5-10 years ago Facebook/Twitter/instagram/all other social media wasn't the animal that it is today. It's easier now for individuals to find other individuals to identify with and be comfortable with and let them know they're not alone in this world. It's so much more publicized and mainstream. 10 years ago we didn't have Loretta Cox or Caitlyn Jenner on tv to let us know that it's ok to be the way we are. I've only recently started being open about my bipolar disorder because so many other people have opened up about their own mental illness.
I'm seriously thinking of leaving Funny Pics. I don't normally get offended, but the amount of people that are all "lol trans" really makes me want to stop using the app. I would just stop reading comments, but sometimes that's the best part.
@Spilled Milk, so many internet places i like to go are becoming filled with hateful transphobic rhetoric, and it's really unfortunate
@Spilled Milk, k, bye. You could also just skip the comments on pictures that would cause argumentative comments. I personally enjoy the controversial pictures, but it's up to you.
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