Actually, as people who actually saw the damn movie would know, American Sniper is a character study that attempts to show the trauma of war in a realistic fashion. It's a plea to support veterans, not push ideology. There's even a scene where a younger marine praises Kyle, to which Kyle doesn't know how to respond. That and his PTSD-induced-almost-killing-a-dog-thing. And several other moments that make it clear that this guy is a human being who is disturbed by his experiences in war.
Also, props to Bradley Cooper. Quality performance.
@SimonPetrikov, Seriously, Lone Survivor would have been a better example. Don't call American Sniper propoganda
That's almost as ridiculous as calling Platoon pro-US propoganda
@SimonPetrikov, the trauma of having a family member killed by a soldier is probably not as serious
@Unkle77, to be fair. In the book he regards Iraqis as sub human. He also bragged about killed 3 men which never happened
@Dreadnought , exactly...
@SimonPetrikov, KILLL BROWN PEOPLE!!!! What sorry I blacked out for a second.
@Michael Fassbender, i think you whited out.
@bootyquake, well what's white is right! Damnit it happened again
@SimonPetrikov, Watched it, it doesn't idealise war, is still propaganda
@SimonPetrikov, yeah and all the propagandizing just happend to be a byproduct of this "oh so true" strory. These dummies will never understand your deep level of thinking
@SimonPetrikov, but you know the plot is almost 100% made up if you read the book that sniper dude had liberally 2 whole paragraphs in that book while the entire movie revolved around it. Not dissing Chris or Brad they are both great and you are right they got the PTSD spot on
@Guy Fawkes, kill brown people
@Fun Haus, kill brown people
@SimonPetrikov, I don't think Lone survivor is that much of a propaganda film either. It shows that not all people in the Afghanistan support the Taliban. The villagers in the movie help the American soldier because it is part of their customs.
So... correct me if I'm wrong... but wasn't American Sniper made by a private film company while the former would have been made by the German government?
I consider American Sniper to be an anti war movie
@Angular Notspice, you can't just disregard my comments as banter anymore than I yours.
@Kskronz, Or at the very least it shows the psychological effects war has on you
@Kskronz, its only to make ypu feel sorry for the poor soldiers. No regard or remorse for the murder of random civillians of those countries.
Last time I checked America didn't throw three million Jewish people in concentration camps for cheap labor and eventually gassing them. So there is a bit of a difference.
@Good Ol Days, Propoganda doesn't need to be inherently negative, but American Sniper was, objectively, propoganda.
@Good Ol Days, are we just comparing numbers or are we going to talk about the real issue, war crimes? We have a lot to answer for. We've done a lot of good, but we've also done a lot of bad. It's dishonest to praise alone and not constructively criticize
@Good Ol Days, but we did put 100k+ Japanese in internment camps so that's something.
@UmActually, propaganda for what?
@Kskronz, to make it ok to bomb random and kill random civillians in the streets because they "might" be terrorists. If you kill all of them then maybe terrorists will stop breeding. I mean its not like they're radicalized because of having people close to them bombed or anything...
@Angular Notspice, I understand where you are coming from but I disagree with you. I believe American Sniper is anti-war propaganda. The film does an incredible job of painting the American soldiers as invaders of foreign land intent on raging destruction wherever they see fit. The movie does not promote war, in my opinion.
@Kskronz, but have you seen the comments about it online? Some racists and fascists got so happy. That movie was just a testosterone pump for them. They felt good there was a movie out there that made America look like the powerful "badass" which doesnt tolerate the "oppressive violent nature" of islam. It just makes the 'get them before they get you' argument seem far more acceptable for some.
@Angular Notspice, True, but the movie wasn't created as or billed as such. The movie is an examination of the trauma war can cause. The guy is mentally deteriorating and the main conflict of the movie is him needing to get help and learn how to cope.
@Kskronz, don't know if someone answered this already but right after the sniper movie came out a lot of idiots said they wanted to join the army to collect Muslim scalps.
@dhiler, those that did bad have paid for it. At least we have the integrity to police ourselves. While the Gestapo and SS were promoted
@FeelTheJohnson, right because imprisoning a couple hundred thousand people is as bad as murdering 11 million people. It's easy to forget that in addition to six million Jews around five million individuals including ethnic Poles and other Slavs, Soviet citizens and Soviet POWs, Romanis, communists, homosexuals, Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses and the mentally and physically disabled were killed in the Holocaust because they were seen as "lesser people". Both events were terrible but one was CLEARLY worse than the other. Though I'll admit waiting until Gerald Ford's presidency to issue an official apology was pretty ridiculous
@FeelTheJohnson, are you aware of the Japanese POW atrocities. Were we perfect? Of course not, we're human.
I'm unfamiliar but..... Is the first guy the dude who played Baron Zamo? In Civil War.
@Lord Palpatine, well yeah but this is a reference from Inglorious Bastards
@Lord Palpatine, yeah it is. In the movie Inglorious Basterds he plays a Nazi sniper in a propaganda movie.
@Taquito Speedo, I'm new to Quinten Tarantino I haven't yet seen Inglorious Bastards. Was there controversies over it?
@Lord Palpatine, eehh I'm not actually sure. I think it was just a spoof on the whole WWII. It was a serious storyline with just amped up badassery and made up plot lines to make history seem more badass. It's a fun and neat movie to watch in my opinion, but there's minimal historical accuracy. Plus it was the first time I saw the actor Christoph Waltz who is in my opinion an incredible fvcking actor
@Taquito Speedo, Christoph Waltz and Quinten Tarentino together instantly means a cinematic masterpiece.
@A Drunken Bear, I concur, good sir!
@Taquito Speedo, if you look at the other comments, I think there aren't very many of us that noticed that.
@MyJeepisbrokeagain, oh I noticed, I'm just good at avoiding an argument
@Taquito Speedo, No, it's from Inglourious Basterds
No, it's fuсking not. Get this sнit outta here.
So many negative comments. I wonder how many are actually soldiers who have fought in the Middle East or if these are just keyboard peace warriors who sit safely at home miles from any real conflict. I am an American soldier and I have fought and served my country. There is a difference between these movies.
Damn straight. Murica Woooo. Only Liberals, socialist, and commies spout propaganda.
Sarcasm on a comment section on the internet never happens. Abraham Lincoln told me so.
Yea because there's totally no difference between them...
@A Math Dealer, In the sense that they are both cases of blatant propoganda, they are the same, beyond that and some minor points, they are different.
@UmActually, American Sniper isn't propoganda. Refer to my comment below for why.
And it's not genocide if Manifest Destiny just happens to almost wipe out all of the "savages" as we gathered them into camps with deadly living conditions and gave them pocks covered blankets...
@MacLovelace, People are sнit
@Captain Anderson, I thought it looked weird when I typed it
America is the biggest terrorist nation I the world
Hey, we win wars
@AngeredSportsFan, Except the Vietnam war, and the Cold war, and the Korean war, but yeah you know. You're number 1 I guess
@Duncan5769, don't forget the war of 1812!
@Sloppy Dangle, Damn right us Canadians burned your precious white house to the ground. Those idiots managed to piss off the Canadians
@Duncan5769, Bruh we won the sh*t out of the Cold War
@Duncan5769, And the Korean War was a tie... but then again, we're bound to lose about 15 when we eventually leave the Middle East
@Duncan5769, the Canadians weren't even at D.C during the burning of the city. They were British soldiers fresh off from fighting Napoleon. Besides the war was a tie, considering the white peace.
@Soon, You didn't win the Cold war, but you didn't either. That's why another war with Russia is terrifying, they don't go down easty and neither do Americans, the only way one of them would lose is if one of them were gone
Leave your liberal politics at the door
That's not propaganda. Now Captain America, on the other hand...
That's Frederick zoller on the left, it's from the movie inglorious basterds, not propaganda
What would it be propaganda for? I haven't seen the movie- but the book was about how time in the service nearly destroy his relationships- plus all the crazy sh*t that happens during war.
@Captain Anderson, *destroyed
@Captain Anderson, stolz der nation was a film in inglorious basterds making fun of people who like violence in Tarantino films. They are not similar
@Captain Anderson, Inglourious