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@big freedom, the costs would depend on the impact it will make. Most believe that without some change eventually we will push the system so far out of balance that a large majority of life on earth will be lost without hope of recovery. If that is true I think cost would not matter. For the record, I personally don't know as much as I should about the subject so I am not claiming one side or the other.
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@big freedom, Anyone that thinks we shouldn't do anything about the radical climate change is living under a rock. Most people agree its a problem yet despite worrying about it in theory they do not actually try and contribute to change. Not all problems have a solution, something I think people sometimes forget
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@big freedom, seeing as we passed point of no return levels of c02 in the atmosphere let alone greenhouse gases where it would become pretty much futile for any impact we'd actually make now..... been like that since early 2014 if not earlier don't get me wrong we are globally warming by a lot 3+ degrees on average that's huge But from the research I've done and read It's pretty much futile at this point And we have much bigger things to worry about climate wise which will effect us greatly sooner than climate in its current rate of change will
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@carguy25, I firmly believe that to be junk science. The panicky - it's too late crowd - are just trying to whip up the crowd. The Earth is amazingly resilient and has a way of healing itself quite rapidly. We should do more to reduce use of fossil fuels and decrease dependency on mining for metals. But it's definitely not "too late".
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@carguy25, for one, saying CO2 and greenhouse gases is weird because CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Second, we may have or may not have passed the point of no return. No one knows that for sure yet. And to say globally we are warming by 3+ degrees on average? When you claim something is changing you need to give over what time frame. Is that a day, a week, a month? My guess is you meant per year. According to NASA the average land temp has gone up something like 1.4defrees F since 1880. According to Climate.gov we have gone up .3 F per decade in the last 45 years. People don't realize that even 1 degree is huge but to try to claim 3 per year? I am 43 years old and it is definitely not 129 degrees warmer than it was when I was younger. I also have an 18 year old nephew and it hasn't gone up 54 degrees since he was born either.
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@big freedom, Well humans increase the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and continuously destroy the ozone layer, showering the surface of the Earth with harmful radiation. Now for life on Earth this doesn't seem like that big of an issue considering the fact that the climate here is cyclic, we go through periods of extreme temperatures and thanks to extremophiles there will be a recurring atmosphere being formed and creating a habitat for life. For us though this is very dangerous, we can make the climate very hostile and barren to us and force ourselves into a mass extinction.
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@carguy25, 3 degrees over what time frame? Are we 3 degrees warmer than last year? A decade ago? A century? And yes data is conflicting. You can have an unseasonably warm summer in some areas and be colder in others and have a higher average overall. Most reputable studies, including the ones who say we are destroying the earth only say 1 to 1.5 over the last century or so.
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@Bellith, we've been noticing since the late 1800s that carbon dioxide emissions have had an impact on making a greenhouse affect making the planet hotter. If we keep going at the rate we're going then earth will end up like Venus. Evaporated oceans, methane and carbon dioxide rich atmosphere, and no life.
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@Michael Fassbender, go back to your poorly written bible also trickle down economics don't work many of the 1% should give up large amounts of money because they are doing literally nothing with 70% percent of it the money should be managed by someone who isn't rich the borders should be reopened because the common people don't seem to realize that many people would leave and go home to Mexico guns should be harder to obtain overpopulation is a thing so many should adopt and the olympics are a waste of time and money especially building new stadiums every time instead of using old ones Now tell me how else would you wish to be offended I was making a joke you turned it into a thing
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@Michael Fassbender, first of the liberals aren't right either they're far too lenient on stupidity sorry but no destroy those safe spaces it encourages moronic people like you to keep doing what you're doing but if you legitimately supported Trump you're already too far stupid Hilary was slime Trump is an especially greedy and gullible madman the only decent candidate was Bernie but the media is greedy so they shut him down also tell which part of that previous statement offended you the most
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@Michael Fassbender, you're really not catching on are you fine I will continue to annoy you no I don't have friends it's because I have asbergers and developed with a certain set of tendencies so am I just don't care about many of the things that others obsess over which allows me to see through part of the veil but at the cost of quite a bit of empathy so would you like me stop now or are just dense enough to antagonize me further
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@Michael Fassbender, you still wish for my presence you are a dense one aren't you I'm not special except for my long stream of injuries and illnesses but that's not necessarily a good thing but I wasn't the dumb one who took dangerous hallucinogens now have you learned your lesson Good bye till we clash again have fun being ignorant
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@tampon theif, Tbh, we don't... There is so much about this planet that we don't know. We learn more and more everyday, but we will never truly know all the facts. That's why we have the THEORY of evolution. The THEORY of global warming. Most facts that we HAVE point toward those, but we cannot be sure. But I see your point about the Fox News thing... I hate every news channel, though, so take that with a grain of salt.
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@Unamused Llama,A: just because something is a scientific theory doesn't mean there's not evidence for it. A scientific theory has to be repeatedly tested and confirmed. B: global warming isn't a theory, it's been directly observed for decades. The overwhelming consensus of the scientific community is that man has contributed substantially to climate change, and while we are always getting new data, the likelihood of that data directly contradicting all of the data collected over the past couple decades is minuscule
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@Mkb617, sorry I phrased that wrong. Exponents can be small but to say something is exponentially minute would have to mean it is getting smaller and smaller and eventually would disappear altogether because there is only so small you can go and remain the same thing. So unless you are saying it is having no effect it does not make sense.
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@tampon theif, actually anyone with a PHD can get his buddies to sign off on his work. It's called scientific method and don't think it isn't easy. That is how they make money. You spend time trying to prove something then you provide data that contradicts that... not good for your funding. Don't take everything at face value. We only see the positive data that supports the real search and it's always when... get ready... funding is needed 😯
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@Michael Fassbender, not exactly, that statistic has been twisted. 97% means scientists surveyed at a climate change conference, and that 97% is only those who believe that mankind has some impact. A lot of that 97% don't believe that its a man made crisis or a crisis at all. Plus, we've been hearing the doomsday about water levels rising and drowning entire countries for decades, still hasn't happened.
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@AnimusJ, everyone alive and in the kingdom were cousins because Abraham was a common ancestor? So does that make us cousins because if you go back far enough we probably do as well? And just because something is taught and can be known does not mean that the average person knows about it. There are a great many people who know about dark matter and its affect on the universe, and it is not hard to find out about it on the interweb, but if you went out on the street do you think a very high percentage of average people know much about it other than its name?
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@Two Left Feet, I disagree, sort of, in part of that. I think the majority of people who believe humans are effecting climate realize that is is a natural process we are effecting. I doubt very many of them think that things would stay the exact same without us and the others seem to believe we are having an effect, they just disagree that the effect is very big.
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Some people actually do have valid points in their beliefs. With earth going through cycles of temperature ranges and how much of this global warming is done because of us. There are reports the ice caps are getting more ice than ever. I don't necessarily lean one way or the other. I'm just saying there is evidence
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While yes we are increasing way past normal fluctuations and are well over 3 degrees globally average what we should with the largest recorded swing being less than 2 degrees globally average We're definitely doing something But short of mass genocide we've gone past the point of no return YEARS ago in many of the greenhouse gasses which it would basically mean futility to even try and limit the output of them because it's literally reached self sustaining levels.
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@Bop It, Nope. I would adapt or die. That is the nature of life and evolution. It's how mankind has gotten to the place it has. Do you think wild or street dogs are made at their ancestors for becoming domesticated and thus depriving them of better surviving skills for the wild? No they adapt to their current circumstance.
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@Bellith, I was just saying that I can't think of a moral reason to choose to not care about global warming. I want to explain how you morally justify ignoring global warming. NOTE: Morality is defining what is the "good" course of action, so justify why choosing not to care about it makes you better than a person (who is hypothetically identical to you in every other way) who wants to do something about global warming.
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@Bop It, It doesn't make me a better person. But nor caring about it doesn't make me an immoral person or you caring about it make you are moral person. Its not immoral for a women to have an abortion, I am assuming you are pro choice. So why is it immoral for me not to care about someone who doesn't exist yet it is not immoral for a woman to choose to stop something from existing?
Climate change is real. It's been happening since the Earth was formed. The real question is: how much impact do humans have? And at what cost should we try to reduce the impact? Now before anyone gets all outraged, think about the second question and come up with a reasonable and logical argument. No emotional shrieking.