Foolish weekend warriors. You call yourselves the "resistance". No, WE ARE the resistance, you are the same establishment you've always been. The only change is that you are now a dethroned establishment.
@Captain Swordsman, Agreed. Trying to share a non-progressive opinion in America is almost impossible to do without backlash. Democracy seems to be losing a lot of its meaning.
@Frodude95, i dont get being against progress, i dont't get conservatives in general, wanting to keep shït the same. I understand being realistic and dumbasses who think utopia are possible, but a non-progressive opinion just sounds like you want things to be back to the 1800s. I don't get it, explain
@Dexios S Divine, not all progress is good. Which conservative opinions do you think are from the 1800s?
@Frodude95, I think it has to due with the majority of younger people being liberal, and how much time young people spend on the internet. I happen to be young and liberal, but that's just a viewpoint. People can be plenty more liberal than me, and to them I'd be conservative. It's important everyone gets to voice their way of looking at things, and equally important that we can all take a joke
@Oujosh29, i said it sounds, not that it is. And how is progression not good? It was progress to get woman to vote, end slavery yada yada, conservative ls for the most part want nothing to change and just be the way it is, thats how ive been seeing it. Im not against realistic opinions, just against wanting legit nothing to change
@Dexios S Divine, well progress is just a buzzword because it sounds good. Like, "progress" in what sense? Kind of hard to answer your question without knowing which policies you are talking about.
@Dexios S Divine, There are some things in this world that don't need changing. Like the concept of human dignity. Why is it okay to abort a child out of convenience? We know through science that it has all of the same DNA it will at the moment of conception that will for its whole life, so why doesn't it count as a person? When did adoption stop becoming a thing? Progressivism talks about the power of women and how they have a right to abort but they ignore that about half of the children aborted are women. All people have the right to life and should be able to expect peace in this world but the trend today is to be selfish and focused on how things affect you without looking at the big picture. And abortion is just one of many things that get lumped into the progressive movement. I'm not saying it's all bad, but there are a lot of flaws and things are set up to where you can't point them out without being an ignorant bigot who's trying to stop humanity from progressing.
@Frodude95, well im pro-choice in the sense of giving the woman an option to save herself if the fetus is going to kill her, and its more common for that than some slut who bangs with no contraceptives who treats abortions like a condom. I don't like dictating what people can and can't do unless it starts messing with other people. People who make a kid then dump them at an adoption center are the same people who would get an abortion because they can't afford a kid. Its stupid people who get abortions. I would like sex education to be more excepted so abortions aren't needed, but too many prudes run our government and say to just teach abstinence and never have sex. As if people don't have a natural curiosity for sex and that is healthy to have a sex life. I don't like killing anything if i don't have to, but its not my place to force someone else to do and think like i want them to
@Dexios S Divine, accepted*
@Dexios S Divine, abortions for rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother is incredibly rare. Abortions are mostly those who just don't want a kid. It might not be your place to stop abortions, but conservatives believe it is the government's job. After all, the number one job of the government is to protect its citizens, just because the citizen is in a womb that shouldn't change. The thing about sex ed is that's more a job for the parents than the government. We do live in a nanny state, but parents still have responsibilities.
@Oujosh29, how can you expect a parent to explain sex ed stuff if they were taught abstinence? Its people who don't understand sex more than it feeling good that get abortions. I don't like abortions, but id rather the option be there, otherwise women will just find other ways to do it and just kill them selves by mistake or something. I don't like stupid people or abortions, but no one should be punished for being stupid. Besides adoptions aren't a viable option either. If it was then they would never be full. Just have sex-ed programs that you take at like 14-16 and the problem will be solved. Theres studies about it but they were small samples i think, but they showed sex-ed worked
@Captain Swordsman, how is progressivism the establishment if Congress was mostly conservative for the duration of Obamas stay? And what about the fact that most foreign leaders in places like Canada would agree that Obama would have been too conservative for their government? I personally love a lot of conservative ideals (pro gun, less spending and meddling) along with the mentality of progressivism in that we shouldn't be dictating what people do and don't want to happen to their bodies over the course of nine months. Adoption is a logical course of action for sure, but fact is most people who carry the child in their womb for 9 months will ultimately keep it, even if the child has little to no chance of getting the parenting and financial support it needs.
But here in Texas, this idea seems to get a lot more backlash than chanting GO TRUMP and branding anyone who doesn't a "nevertrumper" democracy has most certainly lost its meaning.
I feel like I've ranted, sorry about that.
@Oujosh29, and why shouldn't people be allowed to get an abortion if they simply can't afford the child? They're stupid for not using contraceptives in the first place, but what if the condom broke? Do you really want lots more poor children draining tax dollars through welfare and such?
@Frodude95, People aren't afraid of conservative opinions. In fact a majority of Americans are Conservative (this is a fact). The issue is that people are against banning Muslims, and not allowing the EPA to communicate with media. That is Fascism (this is a fact). Americans such as I love conservativism, but the problem is half of the Conservatives are either to obsessed with conservative values to see the dangers, and the other half are fighting the ignorance. Statistically its been calculated over and over again that the things going in are much worse for America than better. Certain Republicans just want to turn there head the other way and fight for Trump like a football team. I use to be a conservative as of a few months ago but it's quickly turning facist.
@Apple Incorperated, i refuse to believe Trump is conservative, he is, as you say, fascist. Yes many republicans go with him like a football team, but many democrats do the same for their party leader regardless of their beliefs. The main problem in america is not conservative vs liberalism, those are mostly healthy arguments, the problem is the we have a strict two party system, meaning regardless of a persons actual beliefs they'll vote their party based on name recognition, its the worst thing to happen to our democracy, and leads to a large population of ignorance
@Oujosh29, that's why it should be choice though. Why push your view onto others through government? Don't you hate when government already does that? Trying to give government control over your choices is the opposite of conservatism. To say that it's the job of the government to protect the lives of its citizens is the main argument, but what would most of their lives be? Being born to a parent that doesn't love them isn't a good life. And if their life wouldn't be bad in the first place then they probably wouldn't be getting an abortion. Prochoice is the best way
@Frodude95, I like the fact that you use science to determine what constitute 'a person'. I agree that that is the limit we should use to determine until what time a pregnancy can be terminated. We should follow the medical community in the definition when the fetus should be considered a person. I do disagree that the limit is 'having DNA'. In short, I believe terminating a pregnancy should be possible until a certain point, where that point is should be decided by specialists.
@Frodude95, This guy gets it.
@Dexios S Divine, if it ain't broke don't break it
@Providence , I'm fine if whatever works works, but if it can be better then it should be improved. I'm not against realism, be stagnate isn't good
@Dexios S Divine, being stagnate*
@Dexios S Divine, Just for your information, GOP lawmakers presented the amendments that freed the slaves and gave women the right to vote. Politics were different then, but Republicans were behind both laws that gave african americans rights and women their right to vote. Democrats weren't always "progressive".
@ JCLEMZ, the parties just switched names, forgot at which point in time. Long ass time ago when dems were repubs and repubs were dems.
@ JCLEMZ, besides I don't care about repubs or dems, i said conservatives. There can be conservatives in both parties
@Dexios S Divine, Do tell when they switched names, because this is the first I've ever heard of both parties switching names. And also name any Democratic law makers who call themselves conservatives.
@ JCLEMZ, google mate
@Dexios S Divine, Google isn't an answer to when the GOP and DNC decided to swap names for lolz.
@ JCLEMZ, because it's lengthy. Just google when repubs and dems switched, some president caused, don't remember the details
@Dexios S Divine, Let me answer it for you, then. At the time during the 1800s, "conservatives" were the progressives. Democrats protected slavery as a constitutional right and abolitionists wanted the opposite. These like minded parties, who had other principles they shared, coalesced into the Republican Party. GOP and DNC never changed names. You're thinking of policy shifts since then that have sorta swapped the platforms of both parties.
@ JCLEMZ, thanks for the info i already knew
@Dexios S Divine, Then don't claim they simply changed names and refuse to recite that "info you already knew".
@ JCLEMZ, basically did, don't really have to sound like a professor on an app, didn't feel like typing down something lengthy either.
@Dexios S Divine, "Google it" isn't "basically it".
@ JCLEMZ, that's true, the republican party started out as a far left and very liberal party, that's why the democratic conservative south seceded when Lincoln became president. He was like Bernie Sanders times 1000 back then. But since Lyndon B. Johnson signed the civil rights bills in the 60s, the democratic and republican parties switched their conservative and liberal titles with each other. So yeah you're right but it's not really relevant in the present
@NoWay007, The only thing that's changed is what's conservative/liberal now.
I'm so sick of the political pictures. It's all over Facebook, it's all over instagram, it's all over Snapchat. There's no escaping it, I just want a break from it all..
@SourNewspaper, so swipe and move on?
*dupstep remix of Imperial march*
That moment the country's approval rating for Darth Orange is less than 39%
@Abusive Breasts, *cough cough, reported from Clinton news network from unreliable sources* BUT the Washington post has him at 60% 4 days ago which makes much more sense seeing as about more than half of legal citizens in the US voted for him, and didn't suddenly dislike him after he was inaugurated. I despise sheep; to the slaughter with you, feeble minded one.
@Abusive Breasts, if only approval ratings mattered.
@Half Black Man, What? Please link that Washington Post. I can't find it. I can't find any Washington posts over 40%. And you're wrong about him having more than half of the US citizens voted for him - he lost the popular vote by about 3 million. Do your homework, stay in school.
@Sloppy Dangle, hopefully he meant half of us citizens who voted, which is almost true. But popular vote is meaningless anyways.
@Sloppy Dangle, apologies *Washington times. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/25/president-trumps-approval-rating-rises-57-percent/ and I'm not wrong, do you know how many illegal immigrants voted for Hillary Clinton? I wasn't wrong, I just didn't phrase it as "popular vote" because yanno, people who don't belong here voted. But you're cool with that I guess. Thanks, I stayed in school and got a PhD in psych bud. Take your own advice
Alright, so you said Washington post initially, not Washington Times. You were also arguing to @Abusive Breasts about where he got his own source of information, being that it is biased. That's fair. But, you then linked a Washington Times website, who are known for being right-winged conservatives. Not only that, but the source of the "60%" in favour for Trump, came from the Rasmussen Reports which is also conservative-leaning. So that makes you either a ignorant dolt, or a hypocritical - double standard buffoon. (I'd like to think both)
And yes, you are still wrong about the popular vote. There is no factual evidence about illegal immigrants, on a large scale, voting against trump. That is entirely open to arguments and opinions. Until real evidence comes to the public eye - Trump lost the popular vote.
If its true that you do have a PhD, its sad to think that someone with an education can be so, what's the word I'm looking for...Oh yeah, sheepish.
@Sloppy Dangle, I could easily say the same thing because you and Mr. breasts got your info from CNN, also left biased. No need to insult me champ, and I wouldn't consider myself a conservative or a liberal, just educated. I know full well where I'm getting my info from. Since you seem to know everything, I'll let you wander about through life being angry and ignorant. Isn't it odd? Claiming that I'm the sheepish one when you also say that I support the minority's candidate? Hmm. Interesting. Millions of illegal immigrants voted for Hillary. It's speculated that in 2008, possibly 6 million illegals voted. But we don't have any solid numbers as to who did or didn't, but he's our president 😎 I'm assuming you're a young adolescent full of fervor and dimwittedness. Passionate, but misguided. Nothing you say here will change the facts, but you'll believe alternate truths and blame others to make yourself comfortable
@Sloppy Dangle, and never did I once say trump won the popular votes, I said that he had *about more than half of the votes of LEGAL citizens* to which numbers are estimated between 3-13 million depending on your source, which would put him at more legal citizen votes, which are more important to me than illegal citizen votes, which Hillary got a lot of. Illegally. So yea, thanks for putting word in my mouth, smartass
@Half Black Man, *3-13 illegals that is
@Half Black Man, sorry bud, I don't watch CNN. Only BBC and ABC News. You could argue that ABC news leans slightly democratic but overall they're a trustworthy and reliable source of news and stay as neutral as possible
General leboufe we've successfully sent him into a twitter rant what's our next move?
But like... I fear this every day now
If we were actually making up the names in that order vader would be Darth Black... I would reconsider...