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0% of Americans need to choose between freedom or freedom
@Chance teh Raper , Canadians still have freedom, but we also have free healthcare
@Siska the Khajiit, Canada just knows how to put the free in freedom
@Siska the Khajiit I can't think of a come back rn but just know that I have a very angry scorn on my face
@Chance teh Raper , sorry to hear that, hope you come up with one eventually, eh
@Siska the Khajiit, "free"
@ABurr, I prefer to spend a few hundred a month and get free healthcare. I don't like the concept of needing a hip replacement and being bankrupted
@Siska the Khajiit, yeah but youll wait six months before getting one if youre old. Keeps the price lower if you wait six months and the person no longer needs one due to lack of life.
@Siska the Khajiit, eh is not a phrase if canadian. It's like american's "huh?"
@DeadLogic, that's not even the case anymore.
@UmActually, I know you enjoy trying to prove me wrong like youve tried many times before but please at least google what youre saying before you say it. Come on go google it ill wait....
Did you google it? Ok now go away since its still 6 months.
@DeadLogic, What? The wait period for a hip replacement? Thats the case in America too! My dad, at the age of 50 was told that he shouldn't get a hip replacement for another 10 years, because they last 20 years and they don't want to give him two. At least in Canada, you don't have to pay for both.
@DeadLogic, I misunderstood your original comment. I thought you were referring to the long wait times for basic care that were a problem for Canadians until the early aughts, then for rural Canadians until 2010-2012 when we incentivized foreign doctors.
@UmActually, actually in america you can get your hip replaced in as little as 2 weeks and at most around 3 months but the average is between 3 and 4 weeks.
@DeadLogic, you do realize that the 6 month "wait period" is not a wait period. That's the preferred point of completion of the procedure. The average date of completion after diagnosis is 80 days, compared to 40 days in America. Meanwhile, the cost is 31,890$ in America, vs. 0$ in Canada. My dad went back to Canada and got his for free and 10 years early.
@Siska the Khajiit, "Free" isn't a third of my paycheck.
@Maud Pie, The average American pays 2,200/year just in federal taxes and about 5,000/year toward employer-health care. Canadians pay, on average, 4,500/ year in taxes, which is about 3,400/ year USD. So which is more expensive? 3,400 or 7,200?
@UmActually, I pay well beyond that average in taxes as an American
@Teamevolution2, That's just federal. I didn't include state or city.
@UmActually, just my federal is far beyond that average
@Teamevolution2, interesting fact, as soon as you hit $40,000 a year, you actually pay less in taxes in Canada than in America. But yeah, everybody's situation is a little bit different.
@UmActually, it would be nice to pay less in taxes.
@Siska the Khajiit, thats why they have hate speech laws.
@Siska the Khajiit, not for much longer
@Maud Pie, neither are those chemo therapy treatments bud
@DeadLogic, well I could be bedridden for 6 months for free, or my kids could have no money from my death
@Siska the Khajiit, no one pointed out that you literally just said you PAY 200 a month for FREE health care.
Everyone has their opinion, in this case based on their own financial situation. For me personally, America has lost a lot of its glory. I work for about 10hrs a month so some dead beat can have coverage but I still cant afford it.
Im sure ill attract some hate with that, but yknow what, Im tired of people suckin off this socialized health care because the dont understand how it works. Its NOT free, someone is getting fücked so you can have it.
@Caine, yes, some multi millionaire who can lose a few dollars is keeping you alive, and I don't see anything wrong with that
@Caine, and 10 hours a week is barely anything, so unless you make 60 dollars an hour, you would be that deadbeat.... sorry to say
@UmActually, keep in mind its also harder to do things on a larger scale. Canada has a pop of 35 mil vs the USA at 318 mil and the avg canda income is 70k ish and america is at 50k ish having more people makes things more difficult.
@Siska the Khajiit, lol youre retarded. Not only can you not read, you have no idea how the system works. The "millionare" has insurance and pays nothing. The working class makes minimum wage and pays for someone else to have coverage while not having it themselves.
Take your ignorant bïtch aśs off my nuts and grow up, down voting me cause youre a child and know nothing of being in the working class.
@Siska the Khajiit, the deadbeat remark makes you a fückwit btw. Work is work. You would t know though because you are on the welfare system.
@Siska the Khajiit, have you come in here talkin shït callin me dead beat. Thats why you live in canada, get out of our business.
@Caine, umm, everyone pays. It's called a "single payer program" because everyone who lives in Canada, pays for the healthcare. So everyone from the billionaires to the working class pays. So if you end up with cancer, you won't have to pay 100,000$ for treatment. That sounds fair to me. And once again, 10 hours a month is very low to average, 40 hours a week is average. I manage to work 20 hours a week, and I'm in high school
@Siska the Khajiit, youre an idiot. We are talking about the usa in the pic. Paying doesnt mean youre covered here so take your dead beat comment and stick right up your asś. Beyond that, you seem to think that its other peoples responsibility to insure you. Its not.
And to clarify since your brain doesnt work correctly. I stated 10 hrs of the 40 work week goes to the health care meaning you worm 10 hrs for someone else to be covered out of the 40.
What is so fücking hard to understand there?
Sounds like youre the dead beat to me. I shït on your 20 hrs son. Try working 60 hr work weeks then talk to me you punk asś
@Caine, the pic is a tweet by Canada health services. And yes I do think it is fair to share some of my money. And I'm in school, so 20 hours really isn't that bad
@Siska the Khajiit, in fact dont talk to me. You got me fücked up right now talkin that shït while you are in hs and literally know jack shït about the real world.
@Caine, I know enough to know that letting people die because you are selfish is quite inhumane
@Siska the Khajiit, for a person being worried about being "humane" you are a very cancerous person.
Your ignorance and your general douche baggery gave me cancer just now.
@Caine, nice one, you got me
@Siska the Khajiit, for a person worried about being "humane" you sure are cancerous.
@Caine, double post my bad.
@Caine, if you are gonna insult my character please be original
@Siska the Khajiit, lawl dont be mad cause you set yourself up for a roast.
@Caine, I'm sure I did, and I'm not mad. Also why did you spell lol wrong? Is that your way of typing? I was just hoping for a original comeback. The first time was okay, but please change it up the second time
@Siska the Khajiit, if you havent heard of "lawl" before it just proves your ignorance. You have google, figure it out.
Im going to ignore you now and go get cheemo.
@Caine, you can't just explain it quick? Well goodbye, I'm happy a logical debate turned into attacks on character
@Siska the Khajiit, lol youre the dumb ass that brought it there.
@Caine, You're the moron. If you bother to do math, Canadians spend less on taxes and health care combined than Americansz
@UmActually, who is talking about canadians though?
Lol you little hill troll so thirsty for attention you try to stir up nonsense by sounding completely stupid.
Not even gonna read further idiocy from you. You should lay off the stupid pills lol you get owned on every pic you comment on.
@Caine, this pic is about Canadians, you dumb fvck
Thats like saying, "dont worry you dont have to make good life choices, well make those choices for you".
@SparkySparky BoomMan, But free health care isn't super authoritarian like the American GOP says it is. It's really constructive to pharmaceutical companies and some private care physicians, however most of those can apply for grants and get supplements from the government.
@SparkySparky BoomMan, also, no matter what good life choices you make, if you end up with cancer and you don't make over $100,000 a year in America, you're fvcked.
@SparkySparky BoomMan, right, because why wouldn't I want to get to choose between life in bankruptcy or death
@Killing instincts , death
I'd like to have the choice though
@Vesrox, Yeah. You Americans get to either go bankrupt on saving ur life, Or get that sweet new iphone. We Canadians get free healthcare , then go bankrupt on sweet new iphone.
And this is funny how?
@Gamasennin, It's snarky.
@Gamasennin, don't worry, the Canadians see going strong downvoting us all. Let them have their 15 min...
0% of me gives a fvck.
*eagle screeches in distance*
@Greedy Ghandi, Canada is like that insecure friend that's always bragging about sh!t when you know their not much better off than you are.
@Jolee Bindo, But we are statistically happier, and we don't need to go bankrupt every time we get the flu. Also, have you seen Canada? Prettiest place ever.
@Jolee Bindo, really now? I thought it was the other way around since Canada is basically ignored and almost irrelevant half the time till cases like this and hockey. From my observations.
@UmActually, pretty winter was my first experience. Every other winter after that made me cry.
@Jolee Bindo, you nailed it. Did the Canadians downvote you too? Did you care? Neither did I. Murica'
@UmActually, statistics shmatistics, I'm happy as fvck. I'm in Washington state, it's better here than Canada, i can fvcking guarantee it.
@UmActually, There are lies, damned lies, then there are statistics. You can't quantify happiness. Also if Canada is so pretty then why does 3/4ths of the population live within a hundred miles of the US border?
@Jolee Bindo, Because it's too damned cold? We don't congregate there to walk to the US to sightsee. Ask the UN, because they did quantify happiness.
Also 100% have to pay a ridiculous tax
@Prince super Vegeta , Not true. Tax is actually lower for most Canadians.
It costs 11% of our GDP or $6,299 per person. We could do it for a lot cheaper too, if waste was reduced. Many nurses here make $100,000 per year and union rules are that a 12 hour shift requires 3 hours of breaks so ... that's wasteful. Then look at wastes of MRI scheduling, bad contracts, surgery caps on surgeons, the fact that 80% of the hospital bills are caused by 20% of the people, plenty of red tape, bad policies (like nurses cannot change batteries in a blood pressure meter - a qualified electrician/engineer must - policies that kill people!), etc. We also have medical brain-drain because USA pays our graduates more because our training is better and more competitive, leaving us with less MDs and more MBBSs (sorry India).
@TeaEarlGreyHot, Actually, our government has, since 2010, largely increased our incentives for foreign MDs, and that's stabilized the flow.
0% of north Koreans have to choose between an iPhone or healthcare... they have neither
Nobody "Needs" anyone else telling them what to spend their money on.
@Paperknifesaint, But that's silly to say. Canadians spend less on health care and taxes than Americans, and don't need to sell organs to afford treatment.
Some of them choose the Cleveland Clinic.
No, they just have to wait to afford the extra tax on their iphone. It's not actually free
@PassengerPenguin, But we also don't have to buy health insurance, or worry about our kids having to foot our medical bills if we get a terminal illness. We never have a case of "This vital surgery is not covered by your insurance, so here's a bill for $190,000."
@PassengerPenguin, Besides, Canadian sales tax is not incredibly high.
@PassengerPenguin, what? No.
I pay a 5% government sales tax on everything I buy (some provinces have a provincial sales tax but we don't in Alberta)
I know you guys don't have a sales tax quite like we do but 45 of the states levy similar taxes on a great deal of goods and services as most Canadian provinces do.
You yanks have convinced yourself that you have some mystical freedom that floats you above the rest of the free world but I've lived in both our countries and I haven't seen any significant changes in quality of life coming out of the states.