And we were thankful for it
No, you just purchased your own healthcare...
@Doctor Krieger, and they had to walk uphill in snow both ways just to get to the place to buy it
@Doctor Krieger, unless you had a preexisting condition
@Doctor Krieger, unless you couldn't afford it
@Captain Anderson, *mic drop
@Killing instincts , isn't that what Medicaid is for?
@Captain Anderson, I prefer to use the term "unhealthy lifestyle".
@Captain Anderson, nowadays people without preexisting conditions face higher (sometimes unaffordable) costs to cover people with preexisting conditions
@John MFing Froosh, what lifestyle changes should I make to alleviate my asthma?
@Leprechaun Giant, drink kefir, make your own sauerkraut, exercise daily, don't be a pussy....
@Leprechaun Giant, Have you tried switching to an alkaline diet, cutting gluten and going vegan?
It won't help, I'm just checking you're not an idiot.
@Doctor Krieger, here's some cool water and bandages for that burn, that'll be $643,820
@John MFing Froosh, I'm confused. Eating healthier have stopped my spinal disease? Why did no one tell me this before I had back surgery?
@Hoopscallion, there's no such thing as "spinal disease". Give me a specific diagnosis. Are you referring to a spinal tumor?
@Hoopscallion, you won't have spinal disease anymore if you just stop eating 👉😏
@John MFing Froosh, There is a thing such as "spinal disease" there are different kinds, like cancer. Looking up things on google isn't very hard
@John MFing Froosh, Degenerative disc disease. First surgery at 22 and it was only a discectomy. I'm lucky, my sister had a fusion at 16. Hers was much worse, much quicker.
@John MFing Froosh, You also realize that not all diseases are lifestyle changeable, right? Medicines, cures, and surgery exist for a reason.
@John MFing Froosh, also there's a lot of spinal diseases.
@K1lgore, yeah I was looking for a specific ailment. That's why I mentioned a specific one in my comment. You cant make an argument for spinal disease without giving a specific diagnosis. Here's why: if you have a genetic disorder that causes a disease in your spine, or that causes cancer in the spine then yeah, lifestyle changes will not help you. However this is an extremely small percentage of people in the world. Now if you just have a random tumor that appeared with no link to any genes (which is what the majority of cancers are) your body's immune system should be able to fight it of. Unhealthy immune systems and excess inflammation are the root causes of cancer and it derives in the gut.
@K1lgore, now please give me your scientific explanation to counter my argument.
@John MFing Froosh, have you tried turning off your brain and turning it back on?
@Doctor Krieger, the amount of dowvotes this as is awesome.
@Blue Shirted Guy, have you tried counter arguing without jumping to attacking my intelligence?
@John MFing Froosh, For one, I do not need any form of a "scientific argument" to argue this. There are plenty of things that you can change just by diet, but why would you ever take the risk? Also, most people don't find out about it until it's too late, and when it's too late there aren't really any lifestyle changes to make. Besides, just to be safe, no matter how bad it is, I would appreciate the option to take medicines or whatever cure needed on top of lifestyles changes. Lastly, as I said, medicines, cures, and surgery exist for a reason, why not put them to use?
@Hoopscallion, first off I do not wish illness upon you, and I hope that everything goes well with your health. That being said (from what I read about your ailment on the internet) is that the degeneration of the spine has a strong link to obesity, smoking, and age. Now I'm not saying these apply to you, but as someone who studies medicine I would say there is likely a lifestyle component to this. The internet says that the discs degenerate due to a lack of water absorption which would be a hormonal issue. Hormones are regulated in the gut. There could be genetic component to this in your case (since you said your sister had it). But I would say that is not the case for all instances of spinal degeneration since scientific studies have yet to link it to any genes. That is my general analysis of the situation and I am not an expert on that illness, so my comments should be taken with a grain of salt. But I just want to throw the idea out there that maybe your doctors don't have
@Hoopscallion, the best interests for you, and maybe try eating some fermented food to see if it helps? I'm certainly not considering you completely change your diet. And gluten free and veganism is not healthy in my opinion.
@K1lgore, they should be used as tools, not crutches. That is why they are so expensive. If you use medicine to counteract your unhealthy lifestyle, then you crank up the prices for everyone who actually needs medical care. This is a real problem and the real reason people can't afford healthcare.
@John MFing Froosh, I know that there are things that are lifestyle changeable, but you can't assume that about everybody. Some people do actually need it. Like obese people don't need it, it is lifestyle obviously, but people who have blood sugar problems do need some help with it. Oh, and people can't afford healthcare because we're the only major country in the world who doesn't offer healthcare as a right.
@K1lgore, I don't assume that everyone can be cured by lifestyle changes. I just claim that most people can. I cured my Crohn's disease by fermenting my food. Not a major change in my diet. There are thousands of people who take medication for the rest of their life for Crohn's disease that they could cure with diet. This drives the price up for medical costs especially when you include trips to the doctors, procedures, counseling. I volunteer at an emergency room in my town and I can tell you, too many people come in there with 87 diseases, with an infinite number of pills they take. They always smell of smoke, are over weight and just appear to have never taken care of themselves. I do not hate these people, I do want them to get better but they need a swift kick in the butt, not free healthcare.
@nemestrinus , "builds character".
@Blue Shirted Guy, what burn? I stated a fact and people started jerking their knees. Seems like the fact-adverse among us are in more need of healthcare.
@Doctor Krieger, "fact-adverse":
"There's actually more ice now, though..."
Using the phrase "you just" implies simplicity regarding purchasing your own healthcare, which oh captain my Captain Anderson lit on fire by saying unless you had a preexisting condition. Millions of people can't "just" purchase their own healthcare
@Blue Shirted Guy, that paragraph indentation is not up to MLA or APA standards, my bad
@Doctor Krieger, also its fact-averse, not fact-adverse :)
@Blue Shirted Guy, I'm not impressed by the petty saltmonger routine.
Also, healthcare and health insurance are actually two different things. People conflate them these days because it's difficult to have healthcare without insurance now.
In the past having a preexisting condition would have made it harder to afford health insurance, but healthcare could be had out-of-pocket either way. Also, mind you, most healthcare used to be out-of-pocket and not as insanely expensive as it is today. Then the government got its dickbeaters on things and started creating monopolies and barriers to entry for the healthcare industry.
@Doctor Krieger, oh come on I can't have some fun with someone who calls people fact-averse while using the wrong word AND it being the very next day after completely messing up a fact? Impossible. I don't see how any of that proves that there weren't millions who couldn't *just* purchase their own healthcare.
@Doctor Krieger, the barriers of entry are to protect the consumer- so that there aren't terrible side effects to treatments or medicines that kill people. The main reason medicine is so expensive today is because the government won't stand up to the pharmaceutical industry- we just bump up the price as much as we want. The only legitimate things that should be relatively the same price is surgery
@John MFing Froosh, or Type 1 diabetes (autoimmune disease). Can't just live a healthy lifestyle there and expect to....well, live.
@ajr12100, barriers to entry are FOR the pharmaceutical companies. The entire reason for them isn't to protect the consumer, but to milk the consumer at the behest of corporate lobbyists. Industry giants only stand to gain by having little competition and an in with the government.
Barriers to entry do not prevent dangerous medicines from entering the market. Remember Ambien? It's still available and perfectly legal despite causing, among other things, somnambulant episodes that result in injury or death. Why? Because it's profitable enough.
No amount of meddling in the market to create bartiers to entry is going to do anything other than enable monopolistic corporations to collude and perpetuate themselves at our expense.
This is far from the only industry to have this sort of establishment. Other notable industries include the internet, mobile, oil, and taxi industries.
@DietAdam, everything about autoimmune diseases has to do with diet. Read my comment about Crohn's disease (an autoimmune disease). Look up on the internet the connection between autoimmune diseases and gut micro biome.
@Blue Shirted Guy, just curious, do you keep a little notebook with all of the arguments you think you won on the internet?
I'm genuinely curious, because I don't care enough to remember or record anything some random cųnt on the internet said to me, yet you obviously seem quite fixated on doing so. Why?
@John MFing Froosh, really? So when the immune system attacks the islet cells in the pancreas that produce insulin from the moment you're born until they're completely gone had to do with diet? Well, I guess I should just eat xxxx food and he those non existent cells to magically come back. Crohns is a whole different beast than Type 1 diabetes as well as other autoimmune disorders.
@DietAdam, they all derive from the gut. I'm sorry but that's the cold hard truth, brother and science is showing it more and more every day. I don't know a lot about type 1 diabetes but I cured my Crohn's/lupus/hashimotos by reintroducing lactic acid bacteria into my gut (i.e. Eating homemade sauerkraut, yogurt etc). I suggest you talk to your doctor about it and see what she/he says. With your condition I would be careful though but I personally would take the risk of it meant being healthy. In your case you may have taken some antibiotics at a young age that messed with your gut or your mother took antibiotics while pregnant, but this is just a guess.
@DietAdam, I know you can't copy and paste but check this out or search "type 1 diabetes gut bacteria " in google:
@John MFing Froosh, are you sure you "cured" it? Or are you living with it and controlling the symptoms? Because from what it sounds like, you're just controlling the symptoms. Type 1 is not curable. It's not preventable in pretty much all cases. It's directly tied to genetics. In other words, if you get it, all you can do is control the symptoms with insulin. This means pretty much you need health insurance unless you want to pay insane amounts. No pills, diets, or anything outside of experimental surgeries can cure it. And if you skip the insulin for a small period of time (week or 2), you will be hospitalized. Go longer and you die. Before the discovery of insulin, Type 1 was a terminal condition. Also, insulin is required to live. In type 1 people the immune system kills off all the cells that produce the insulin. So, we literally can't make any ourselves which is why we have to use insulin from outside sources. No amount of dieting can fix that.
@John MFing Froosh, insulin itself interacts with blood cells and sugar (mostly carbs) and is a key in letting you get energy from the sugars. Without the insulin, the sugars build up in the blood (hyperglycemia-high blood sugar). If no insulin ever comes in to help, the blood thickens and thickens to where circulation is greatly affected. And you can see how as that increases indefinitely, it heads towards death. Also, why diabetics tend to have issues with their extremities. They have had too many high blood sugars over years.
@Doctor Krieger, it's really not that hard for me to remember, since I don't think I've ever argued on the internet except on this app, so there's not too much being said. And your comment I referred to practically just happened, the people liking/disliking comments from that pic are near the top of my activity.
@DietAdam, yes I am cured. I took a massive amount of antibiotics for Lyme disease and mrsa just before I started getting the symptoms. It got so bad I couldnt walk and could barely talk. Terrible arthritis, body pains, constantly feeling sick, intense brain fog, anxiety depression. I had to quit my job and move in with my parents. I started fermenting my food and made a few changes to my diet and I am completely better. Only caveat is it took and LONG time . About 7 months for a 99% recovery. But my health got drastically better by the day. now I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. I am merely making a suggestion to you because I do not want you to be sick. I know what it's like to feel helpless and medicine can be a relief to those in need. But if i had taken the route of medicine I would not feel as good as I do today. Again just mention it to your doctor and see what they say. I would not change your diet without doctor approval. Also it takes a lot of
@Doctor Krieger, wouldn't have even brought it up if you didn't call people fact-adverse, see how it's relevant?
@DietAdam, discipline and time when your first start but when you get in the swing of it it is easy.
@DietAdam, and the doctor that told you type 1 diabetes is genetic is a liar or you have misinterpreted them telling they linked a specific protein involved in type 1 diabetes to a gene. This does not mean it is a genetic disease. Genetic diseases are easily identified in familial trees where 50% of relatives have the disease. This is not likely what is happening in your family.
@John MFing Froosh, your article is interesting but only about 5% done with its research. Maybe diets have a role in activating the genetic triggers. No one knows yet. But when breast fed babies are diagnosed as still babies, it's hard for them or the mother to have any idea that something is wrong. Also, diet will not help Type 1 people. Once the immune system kills off the cells, there is no fix that diets can have. I can even try to avoid all sugars but that still won't work since the bodies tends to still increase its own blood sugar at times (especially when asleep). Also, a slow process wouldn't work for us. When symptoms of Type 1 appear, you typically have 1 week to get treatment before being hospitalized. The typical lifespan of a newly diagnosed Type 1 without insulin is around a month with you being insanely ill after the first week or so. Research into finding out early and possible cures and prevention is underway. All we can do is control it with insulin and wait.
@John MFing Froosh, actually, there is a direct link to family members and Type 1. For instance, once I was diagnosed, my sibling then had a massive increase in risk. My grandchildren will have a huge chance of getting it. Most of my Type 1 friends have close family members/relatives with it too.
@DietAdam, and as far as outside factors are concerned, viruses can trigger Type 1. But diet cannot prevent getting viruses.
@Blue Shirted Guy, here's your appointment to government run healthcare (VA for example). They will see you sometime next year to deal with your very acute symptoms that may kill you very soon.
@DietAdam, understandable, in your case you would need health insurance to cover your insulin shots if you cannot regain those cells you need. With that being said, to go back to the original argument that we do not need public health insurance, your case is very rare and is seems to have been initiated by an unhealthy lifestyle (of which you had no control over at the time which is the true tragedy) I would not want to deny you health coverage and I have no problem with an efficient Medicaid plan for you if you couldn't find employer healthcare or afford your own healthcare. I'm just making the argument that if people have to pay for their own health insurance they are less likely to make these kinds of mistakes, and we are more likely to find real natural cures and prevention techniques to diseases like type 1 diabetes and Crohn's.
@DietAdam, in order to say something is a genetic disorder you have to identify a specific mutation in transcribed gene. They have not done this with the diabetes genes because they do not exist. Your family members are at risk due to statistical probabilities that are not backed by genetics. If other people in your family have diabetes it is likely because they inherited the same unhealthy habits that others in the family have. And yes diet can prevent viruses. 80% of your immune system is in your gut. A healthy gut means a good immune system which means no viruses.
@big freedom, considering the amount of time I'm sitting on the toilet scrolling funny pics I may not have that long
@Captain Anderson, correct. And the people without preexisting conditions got much cheaper healthcare because they didn't have to also pay for all the sick people.
@Captain Anderson, And now people without pre existing conditions are paying for them. How great that I have to pay to cure some stranger's illnesses.
@Doctor Krieger, barriers etc may cause big problems without a proper "free healthcare" system, but in any country with a real one eg Australia, U.K., Canada, the government manages the purchase of medical supplies. This means that pharmaceutical companies provide different quotes for their products, and the best quote gets a government contract. This basically lowers the cost of medical supplies by a whole lot, especially in the case of stuff like prosthetics.
@Killing instincts , health insurance was like a quarter of the price with four times the coverage before the aca kicked in.
@K1lgore, we are a country that values work and contribution. The medical proffessionals go into debt to go to school to be able the get these jobs and deserve to be compensated when they provide these services... They are required by law to assist people with fatal issues, so they are not killing people that cannot afford help.
@YUNoJump, there is no such thing as "free healthcare" and public healthcare systems have been, and always will be, inefficient, corrupt, and an abhorrent violation of moral principles.
@Doctor Krieger, well most first-world countries have a government-run healthcare system in place, and the populace of most of those first world countries generally agree that the systems are very good for them, it's not just the governments saying they're good. Surely if they are terrible systems for every country, people wouldn't praise their effectiveness so frequently? What a lot of people don't get is that you can still get private insurance or whatever to increase the quality of care if you want, but government healthcare allows poorer people to receive basic healthcare that allows them to survive. I put "free healthcare" into quotation marks because it isn't technically free, but most people use that term so it's easier. It may not be actually free, but overall the very slight tax increase is worth it to secure medical aid when you need it, and overall the cumulative prices are cheaper anyway through the medical contracting system I mentioned.
Joke's on you cause
I W A N T T O D I E
And we was better for it
I would love to try dying in America, but it's too damn expensive.
Was she born 1998?
And it made me a man
Ummm she looks like the right age to be a millennial....
Is Sam a man or a woman? the name and picture aren't helping!
Healthcare is for pvssies.
THE WHY DIDNT YOU?
All this obsession with health care. It's bullshjt. All of it.