I'm going to go fight the job Smaug you have in your basement for income.
@Ray213, I am looking for someone to share in an adventure.
Well with Trump as president, I'm not the person you should be worrying about.
I guess notify ICE since they'll have an easier time finding you and the companies illegally employing you? If you're legal good for you, if you're not, gtfo and get to the back of the line cheater.
Fafnir the hardworking Mexican.
Robots steal more jobs than outsourcing. Fvck, I got political again.
@The Manwhore, automation creates more jobs than outsourcing.
Fvck, I got rational again.
@Doctor Krieger, yeah sure, some jobs still require a human hand, but you can't tell me that it's not effecting uneducated workers and that better robotics won't affect more jobs. And then there's autonomous cars. Sure, we're a few years away from completely autonomous cars but once they roll out one of the most lucrative jobs for blue collar worker, truck driving, will be gone. Cab drivers are already losing to companies like Über and Über already has pre-orders for completely autonomous cars. If you don't think automation is a problem for uneducated workers now then I guess that's up to you, but if you think that it will never be a problem then you really need to look more into it.
@The Manwhore, automation replaces unskilled jobs with skilled jobs, not eliminates jobs.
You are absolutely fųcking ignorant about automation if you genuinely believe it to be a "problem". It would make you fundamentally no different than those who opposed the automobile because it replaced horse-breeders, buggy/cart/carriage makers, and coachmen.
I work as a CNC machinist. Automation is my job. Take it from me, automation is a win for everyone. The more it grows, the more you will see previously unskilled workers being trained as operators, mechanics, technicians, etc. to keep up with demand, enjoying a better standard of living as a result.
@Doctor Krieger, i think we're yelling at eachother for something we don't really disagree on. Might be my fault for saying it was a problem and not elaboratinh on my point. My overall view is that automation takes away unskilled labor jobs. It created jobs for skilled laborers, but these people need training or schooling to take advantage of these jobs. So the people who's jobs are replaced are likely unqualified to take advantage of the new jobs. So in the end the real problem is that foreigners or robots are stealing jobs, but rather that our education system pretty much fvcks over people who decide to go into these jobs instead of getting an education when they're younger and are more propped up financially. In the end I don't hate automation I just understand that, like globalization, it will have side effects that if we aren't aware of and don't prepare for well enough then we will end up fvcking ourselves.
@The Manwhore, well, think about that the next time minimum wage increase is on the ballet.
Besides someone still has to install, calibrate, maintain, monitor, and replace them when they go defective. 👍
@The Manwhore, it's quite the opposite. Skilled labor supply is low, even now. People are screwing themselves over by going into debt for often useless educations when they could be receiving training and being paid during that period of time.
@Doctor Krieger, I don't know. It just seems like if a job can be replaced then it inevitably will be replaced and it won't always just create jobs that only require a little more training. To me it seems that everyone having access to higher education is a logical next step.
@The Manwhore, the jobs will be filled more easily without people going into debt and making themselves unavailable for full hire for 2-8 years.
Employers can pay less for an employee without debt and not negatively affect their take-home pay compared to an employee with debt from school.
Also, employees, of course, get paid earlier and can save up earlier, which is actually huge for 401k's and IRA's.
@Doctor Krieger, this conversation is probably going to become a debate on socialized college, which would be a rabbit hole that I don't think we'll come out of happy with one another, so maybe we nix this before it gets that far.
@The Manwhore, know what's affecting uneducated workers? Illegal immigration and minimum wages. Check out what Cesar Chavez said about illegal immigration. It's truly enlightening.
@The Manwhore, look back at the 70's when they predicted that computers would eliminate clerical staff... automation and innovation have created 1000x the jobs they've "replaced"
Yes its all immigrants were talking about. Not just illegals its all of them.
[Trump voting intensifies.]