I think a few states have recently passed legislation saying you can legally run them over now. Or at least, you don't have to stop if you're already moving.
@A Drunken Bear, the laws being passed are saying if you accidentally run them over it's ok. You can't run them over intentionally, though personally I'd be ok if they did. Do stupid things, get stupid prizes.
@A Drunken Bear, the police here already told us that last time people scheduled a big protest to block the interstate. If they get in the way just hit them.
@Richard Cypher, why do people do this in america? Theyre not hurting the establishment. Just ordinary people.
@Angular Notspice, because they are stupid. Plain and simple. They protest an imaginary issue and inconvenience/harass ordinary people who are just trying to make a living or otherwise live their life.
Run them over.
@ThatVenomousCat96, damn straight!
@GunLovingMerican, I actually had to suffer throigh this crap once. I waited for a good second opened my window looked at one of them in the eyes and told him that if they didnt move i was going to keep driving. Needless to say no one budged so i put my car in gear, rolled my window up and started moving two of the morons landed on the hood of my car as they tried to stop me. I cranked the speed up to 20 slammed on the brakes and watched them fly off the hood about half a mile away from their friends. Moved to besides them looked out the window and glared at the two telling them that if they keep trying thay crap one day someone wasnt going to slowly do it, instead they wouldnt stop and theyd plow through them at 70 or more. Its fine to protest but yse your brain car beats person everytime.
@AllThanks, by half a mile away i mean me abd the two were half a mile away
@AllThanks, Love it. Mind telling us if anyone else in a car followed your lead? Also, do hope you didn't have to deal with any pesky officers of the law afterwords.
@TheCruzanator, I saw one other guy about to go but he chickened our although a guy on a motorcycle rushed throigh the hole i made. I passed by a cop who was watching nearby and he just shrugged his shoulders. I assume he didnt stop me because it looked like he was ready to arrest them for disturbing the peace so my actions just made his job easier by disbanding the group or so I hope lol
Personally if it were me in the front row I would ask them nicely to move. I would explain that I am on my way to work and that their protest will cause me to not only be late for work. But lose money and potentially my job.
If they continue to refuse I would then explain that if they did not move I would begin to consider their protest a personal attack on me and my lively hood. I would explain that their actions are an attempt to hurt me and the people stuck there. And that their actions only cause me to not support what they are protesting against. And to also take up a fight against it.
I would give them a moment to consider this and if they continue to refuse to left me pass. The words. Fine you want to personally attack me. Then you won't mind if I attack you.
Im a reasonable person and only believe in fighting in self defense. But we all have our limits. And by this point I will be considering them as a threat.
@Seohn, They aren't protesting when they do stuff like this. Their goal isn't to help anyone but themselves. And they don't care who they hurt in the process. So I won't have much tolerance for their actions if they don't move.
I would slowly drive up to them and boop them with my car. If they don't move, I'll slowly boop them a little more till I separate their little handholding game
@Punographic Subtitle, I don't understand why people don't do this.
Be on a motorcycle. Play ultimate red rover. Aim for a people.
Go forward very slowly and push them out of the way.
Pretend to charge forward and see if they disperse.
Or you know you could step out of your car and ask them what it is they're protesting and see what you could do to help their cause. It probably makes them feel nice that they get heard and will probably start leaving once they know their message is heard.
@arealwerewolf, What if I'm driving the car to get my wife to the hospital as she goes into labor? Or if I'm trying to drive to my parents' house to talk to my dad one last time as he lies on his deathbed? Protests are well and good, but to block public roadways is asinine. Points can be made elsewhere, not where necessary travel occurs
@arealwerewolf, then protest on the side on the road. They're just assholes in this case, blocking the rode and annoying people.
@Devil Ocean, I never said what they did was good, but it's a nonviolent solution. If you go out and make the protesters feel heard then they won't protest anymore and they'll leave
@Gas Chamber, I agree they're assholes for doing so, but what I'm saying is a nonviolent solution to a problem
@arealwerewolf, I would get out, tell them I'm going to get back in my car and gun it. Then do so, I guarantee they would rather not get hit by a car than protest. And there is enough distance for them to move before I got to them
@Steaknuggets, why be violent? That's barbaric. Also it helps their cause if a peaceful protest undergoes attack from people that disagree with them. You'd just make it worse for yourself
@arealwerewolf, some pieces of sh!t just like them caused a father to die becuase they wouldnt let the ambulance past. Run them all over, they have zero reason to be in the street except to be a problem to people whove theyve never met.
@arealwerewolf, their is zero reason to protest in the middle of the street, if they stayed on the sidewalk they wouldnt be getting ran over at all!
@GunLovingMerican, I don't see why you think I'm defending them. I have not once said it is a reasonable thing what they are doing, all I'm saying is there isn't a need to resort to violence
@arealwerewolf, there has been multiple cases where people have been assaulted during things like this. The main thing is, if you stand in the middle of the street for no reason and you see a car coming and you dont move... You might get hit. This is darwinism.
@GunLovingMerican, it's not for "no reason" they have a reason. I'm just saying there are alternatives to violence
@arealwerewolf, no they won't. Their goal is disruption. One person walking up to talk to them won't do anything. Though depending on which group it is blocking the freeway, you may get you ass kicked for your troubles.
@RogueKnight, a group of people going up and listening will. They're only disrupting to get heard. Also we cannot guarantee that they will be violent or not violent. However to be the better person you don't go out of your way to hurt someone or possibly kill them for doing a stupid act when there are other alternatives to try
@arealwerewolf, there are no guarantees what you are suggesting will work. And in my personal experience, it most likely won't. You're naive. Yes, they are disrupting to get heard. But they have predetermined goals and they don't leave until those goals are accomplished. A group of drivers approaching them does not meet their goals. Quite frankly all of those people should be arrested for blocking the roadway.
@RogueKnight, your personal experience? Well with my personal experience and being taught to talk people down it has worked. Don't brand me naive because I believe in peaceful resolution instead of killing our fellow Americans. Yes they should be arrested (if I recall they can only block roads/highways with permission of their local police department, but that wasn't the case). What would you say their goal was? If they're protesting they want people to hear them and to undergo change. If drivers get out peacefully and listen to their problems without any negative remarks or body language it will make the protesters feel heard. If they feel like their message was heard they will believe their work there is done. Thus with them leaving. You've got to get in the protesters' mindset.
@arealwerewolf, I'm not saying kill them or hurt them. You are assuming they are peaceful and reasonable, which doesn't tend to happen much anymore. People who protest like this are passionate about whatever their issue is. They are emotional, not rational. They are not interested in talking or listening. It's generally not a give them a hug and it will be okay situation. Your idea may work one out of 50 or 100. That's about it. But you go ahead and try it. I'll stand by with the first aid kit. Here in the people's republic of California, peaceful, rational protests are one in a million.
@RogueKnight, the thing is the media skews the idea that they aren't peaceful anymore. You've got groups that embody Malcom X like Black Lives Matter but then you get groups that block the highways like this that embody Martin Luther King Jr. Yes they may be passionate but that doesn't mean violence. They are emotional during this time which is why a calm peaceful approach with an open ear will make them see you as an ally and being heard makes them happy and once they feel happy with their results they'll leave. I as an EMT will be more than happy to take up that offer since I too am in California. I've seen protests and (I suppose luckily while I'm at it) I haven't encountered or come across one that was violent. Like I said I've been taught and had experience with talking people down when emotionally upset. It's not a bad idea to try. I'm in EMS to help people so reading "run them over" doesn't really ring well with me
@arealwerewolf, appeasing idiots like those protesting in the streets doesn't have a very good track record of success. It just makes idiots think they have the right to do whatever they want and screw everyone else. What should happen is police immediately arrest the idiots (shocker, it's illegal to be in the middle of the road) and to tell anyone who complains of "my 1st amendment rights were violated" to shut up, the 1st amendment doesn't say you can stop others from going somewhere because of your stupid cause.
@arealwerewolf, As a cop in California, I have seen numerous protests as well. Most were not violent, but they were not peaceful. The protestors were bent on disrupting every day life and trying to instigate use into acts of violence. Anyone who approached them, whether it be pedestrians, drivers in vehicles, even gang members with guns, they didn't care. They were nasty, they threatened to do horrible things to families of cops and passerbys alike. They were not peaceful, even though no violence broke out. We had to keep people away from them in addition to keeping them from disrupting too much. I have yet to see any protest that embodied MLK (who was a great man and I highly respect his message and legacy).
@arealwerewolf, At the end of the day. These people are trying to spread a message yes. But it is not up to eh drivers who clearly have places to be to have to listen to them right now. The protestors could have done a million other things but they chose to protest by blocking the road. That does nothing to further their goal and just pisses of a lot of drivers. Areal I know you just want a peaceful resolution but there really isn't likely to be one in this ostuation unless the police intervene. I agree that the best thing to do is say I'm driving through, if you don't move, then don't move. But I'm not waiting here. The protestors WILL move unless they have a death wish
@Oujosh29, like I said numerous times. I'm not defending them. I agree what they did was wrong. However talking to them just makes it easier for the people waiting on the highways to be able to pass by quicker instead of waiting for the protesters to be done whenever they feel like it
@RogueKnight, hey maybe due to the fact you're a cop you're exposed and just flat out dispatched to more violent like protests. Peaceful protests just don't make headlines in news, they don't get the cops called in in case there is going to be a breakout. Unfortunately you've had to see the ugly side and that's a shame, but the protesters in this picture here, this event, they were not violent. Talking to them would be a good way to get them off quickly and without them fearing having to face off cops or get agitated. You should know this better than most that when a police officer arrives there is a shift in tone and environment. Talking prevents that and can get things moved along easier
@Duncan5769, I agree that the drivers have places to be. And I keep saying I'm not backing them up and that what they did was wrong. I would like a peaceful resolution. Either have the authorities come in (which might make the protesters be more on defense and willing to fight) or you could talk to them and make them feel heard which in turn makes them think their protest was a success hence making them leave. Even though you have to go be somewhere how will you live with yourself if you truly injury or possibly kill someone just because you weren't patient or didn't think of a peaceful outcome. I just can't wrap my head around why people would be willing to take another person's life just because they are doing something stupid. I agree that if they were attacking or hurting others then there's an argument to make, but they weren't. They don't deserve death because you were impatient. Is a human life really worth that little?
@arealwerewolf, we are dispatched to all protests in case they turn into a problem. We don't just go to the bad ones. And we do talk to them first and let them know ow how far they can go without us getting involved. They almost always try to find the line.
You're idea of talking just doesn't usually work in these situations. Cops always try to talk to the protestors first, at least to the leaders, in an attempt to keep it peaceful. And it is a supervisor talking to their leaders face to face. Not giving direct orders, but having a conversation about what they want and what we will allow. It's why we haven't had riots, but they still aren't peaceful. And that dialogue is never something you see on the news. Talking has it's place. It can help, but rarely eliminates the problem. As a citizen or if off duty, I would never approach protestors alone or in a group. They are too unpredictable and amped up. It's too dangerous.
@RogueKnight, like I said when you come and talk as a cop it gives a different vibe to these people. They're trying to convince the common people not the police officers, so if the common man were to listen to what they say (once again I'm talking about blocking the highway not other situations) they will feel like their opinions have been heard. Once they get that satisfaction then they'll be more docile and be willing to cooperate
@arealwerewolf, tell that to passerbys who have been threatened, assaulted or at the very least inconvenienced for hours while the road is blocked and they are trapped. To the families of people who died because medical couldn't get to where they were needed. Talking doesn't work anywhere near as much as you think it does, even if you take the cop aspect out of it. You can prove me wrong though. Go up to these groups by yourself, listen to them,get them to leave peacefully in a timely manner. Show me it has a decent success rate and you can convince me I'm wrong. Let's see it on the news and on social media how one hero solves these issues over and over again.
@arealwerewolf, i would try to reason with them and hear them out at first. But if that doesn't work I would explain to them that if they do not let me pass that they are not helping their cause and I will consider their actions a personal attack on me and my lively hood.
I only believe in fighting in self defense. But we all have our limits. And if reasoning with them peacefully doesn't allow me to pass. Then I will be considering their actions a personal attack.
It will only hurt their cause further. Because reguardless of who starts the fight. The media will only see it as violent protesters.
@arealwerewolf, there is an extremely important fact that you are ignoring, Not everyone is rational. Because of this, even IF what you are saying was correct ( lol ) the chance of facing bodily harm outweighs any chances of anyone with even a basic sense of self preservation from even attempting this.
@arealwerewolf, my word, i just noticed something. You are arguing that there is a peaceful solution by simply talking to them. But even here people have tried talking to YOU and that has only escalated the arguments. IE, you can't be talked down. You apparently can't be reasoned with. (If you think that is false, i point to where you have rationalized other's actual experiences as "it probably failed because you are a cop" )
You are the embodiment of why your argument wouldn't work.
@arealwerewolf, your entire premise rests on the protesters will get out of the way if you talk to them. However, protesters do these kinds of protests for the press coverage, not to get a message to the people stuck in traffic. Your idea wouldn't help the poor drivers at all just give a false sense of empowerment to the idiot protestors.
@arealwerewolf, you're seeing things through a narrow perspective. What the people on the road are doing isn't ok. People on that road have places to be, and don't have time to talk to them. In some cases it has gotten people killed cause ambulances can't pass. So yeah, f#ck those protestors I'm driving through and if they don't move that's natural selection
@arealwerewolf, Why should they be rewarded for this behavior? It will only encourage them to do it more. It's the same reason why you don't pay ransoms. If you pay a ransom, you encourage more kidnappings. If you give these protesters what they want, they'll block more highways. This form of protest should not be allowed. If they want to be heard, they'd go downtown with a megaphone. When they do this they don't get heard, they just piss people off. They wouldn't be doing this if their only goal was to be heard. They want to piss people off, they want to be a nuisance to society and that is not acceptable.
@arealwerewolf, these protestors are not non-violent. Have you seen the damage they have caused?
@GunLovingMerican, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing here, but if I'm thinking about the right situation here, that wasn't one of these nonviolent road block situations, that was during one of the riots where they wouldn't let the ambulance get to the hospital in maybe Ferguson. It's was in the recent last 2 years I believe.
anyone else remember commenting on this 4chan thread? pepperidge farms remembers.
Just slowly drive up and if they want to die then so be it.
Sooo, protestors do not have jobs? Or lives? Or anything else to do? Why disturb other people? Sheesh just protest else where where people would actually hear you, do not just stand there, what is the point? Stupid f*cks.
disregard, meant as a reply to another post.
Threaten to vote for Trump for a second term. That'll spook them.
Honestly sounds like the best plan. Everyone knows whats about to happen