If we run power to them can we just blow all our pollution to Canada? Asking for a friend
@SirLoveday, the preliminary math seems to check out but I think I'd need my dealer. I'm just not sure how far it can blow the pollution from the coal mines and tracking operations. Canada might be a bit of a stretch depending on the location, but international waters for sure.
@SirLoveday, sadly no, pollution tends to warm the atmosphere so we'd have better luck blowing it to Mexico
@SirLoveday, can't speak for the rest of Canada, but Ontario has already implemented a large quantity of turbines. To be used as defence against American air pollution invasion
@SirLoveday, technically yes, at least all the air pollution
@The forest, we have a ton of them on the Alberta Montana border too...
Ok, but that's just steam. I mean wind power is not a viable option everywhere. Now if solar shingles weren't $50k+ for my house, I'd be all about getting them.
@Jfosh, serious question, how tough are they? Would one hail storm wipe out all of them?
@Oujosh29, why would they ever make them that weak? Do your normal glass windows break in a hailstorm?
@Donald Drumpf, normal glass don't do anything. Solar glass is a special type.
@Oujosh29, they aren't tough enough to handle a real hailstorm. And insurance won't cover them. I'm more inclined toward the driveway model but it's pricey too.
It's funny because wind and solar are actually really sh1tty. Also that's just steam. Nuclear truly is the way to go. Very efficient, safe, and clean. Sorry, Chernobyl and the plant in Japan or China? Are such rare circumstances of failure they really shouldn't count.
@TheSecretSavage, haters will say it's pollution coming from the cooling towers
@TheSecretSavage, I work in a gas fired power plant and we have a nuclear plant right across the river. I will say that nuclear power plants are being decommissioned at an high rate. Mostly due to the extreme governmental regulations on nuclear power, extremely low price on natural gas, and the improved efficiency of natural gas plants due to combined cycle power generation. *** the more you know
@Richard Cypher, haters don't know the difference between smoke and water vapor.
@Grizzly Wintergreen, I mean no one is arguing that nuclear is cheaper than natural gas in the short run. Nuclear is a long term investment for numerous reasons but, the biggest selling point at the moment is the absence of carbon emissions. There are several new types of reactors going through the governments torturous paperwork swamp even now. Check out the SMR by a company called Newscale. It will actually be able to compete with natural gas if our government doesn't shut it down because a local politician might lose bribe money.
Also the reason the nuke plants are shutting down doesn't have much to do with our illustrious government; nuke plants actually have a lifespan. Due to the interaction of radiation (particularly neutron radiation) the components of reactors can only last so long before they start to become brittle. That being said all of the plants that were built 40 years ago are starting to be decommissioned for that reason. However there are multiple new plants...
@buck nasty, being built around the country right now. For example Watts Bar just finished building a new reactor. Nuclear is trying to improve itself to become more competitive so it can take the throne that it deserves for best producer of power. For our sakes we better hope it succeeds or we will be neck deep in ocean water veeeery soon. #themoreyouknow
@buck nasty, I can't speak about the power industry as a whole, but one reason old sites are having to be decommissioned is due to the fact that we signed treatys saying we would not re-enrich the uranium. People I work with have come from a nuclear plant and they all talk about hot hard it is do get any work done because of governmental regulations. If the sites could be re enriched they could easily surpass their designed lifespan. The company I work for is getting rid of almost all their nuke plants. Especially all in the northwest.
@Grizzly Wintergreen, do you mean recycle our nuclear fuel? If so then you can thank Jimmy Carter for that one. He's the reason we can't recycle our old fuel which makes fuel a lot more expensive. Also, don't get me wrong the government has its paws in every aspect of nuclear that much is true but, unless the employees royally mess up they won't shut it down. Enriching the uranium causes it to not have to be refueled as often but, probably won't have a major effect on the lifespan of the plant. That being said modern plant designs have more than doubled the life expectancy of the plants built 40 years ago already anyways. The SMR is a perfect example. It's entirely modular and can have whole chunks of it replaced if something were to break down over time. I do agree with you we should be able to enrich our fuel more but, I do understand the governmental concern with that. The real issue is not being able to recycle our fuel; we waste like 15-30% of any given fuel rod because of legal
@buck nasty, ...thresholds and whatnot
@buck nasty, I'll have to read into them. I haven't researched too much of the nuclear side because I'm still learning all the aspects of my combined cycle gas plant.
@Grizzly Wintergreen, are you talking about Hanford by chance?
@TheSecretSavage, nope. I'm pretty sure Hanford was completely government run.
But nuclear plants are carbon free.
That's water vapor
You know what grinds my gears? If we turned just a small portion of the Nevada desert into a massive solar array, it would provide enough energy to power the entire United States. And yes I know there are issues with the transference of electricity over long distances, but for God's sake you'd think that there would be more people working on a solution.
@KermitSmash, if we turned an even smaller bit of Nevada into a nuclear waste repository, we could produce even more energy for the entire US with a fraction of the pollution caused by solar energy. But politicians and environmentalists already shut that down.
@Hotchkiz, rip yucka mountain
That is steam from water
These are cooling towers for a boiler, that is water vapor coming out of those cones.
Compliance calls for it
Why don't we just take Bikini Bottom, and push it over there!
That turbine produces power for 400 homes. That power plant probably produces enough for 250,000
@Vaston, look at the size difference thoe
@Braumz, I overstated the power of the wind and understated the power of the coal. I live in Jacksonville Florida and my coal plant is a lot smaller than that one. And it covers 250000. One plant way out in the boondocks that covers everyone is better than 625 wind mills dotted all over the city and suburbs. That's also 625 things that can go wrong. And like someone said here in the comments. I want the Tesla roof. Just can't afford that. I would love to be off the grid.
@Vaston, there are a lot of wind turbines miles out into the ocean here in england where there is always wind. Kinda would cause a lot of problems i guess when they break. Still, these turbines created more energy than needed last year so it might be a good idea to make these a sea thing. And yeah the tesla roof is pretty awesome.
Wind turbines can require more energy to make and erect than they can produce. Not only that. But they kill birds and scar the land with their massive concrete foundations.
@King Goober Dick, We really need a way to delete our comments. It's too early in the morning for me to be commenting.
@King Goober Dick, the "wind turbines kill a lot of birds" is a total myth. They kill no more birds than any other structure that size cuz it's pretty hard for a bird to hit a spinning object that takes up very little space. And initially yes there is an investment in energy but they are capable of paying themselves back in energy and capital if they couldn't no-one would be using them
@jouze, not to mention that they are hella cheap to make and very economic to run. I recently heard that wind turbine energy industry is growing 17% faster than all other jobs. I don't know whether that was all other jobs ever or all other jobs in the energy industry, but either way...
@jouze, People use them because they are government subsidized
@King Goober Dick, nope
@Runnin with scissors, yup. Have been since the 90s
So I'm confused steam causes green house gas? That's all I see in the pic
Are we all just going to ignore that demon in the smog?