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Louis actually asked for consent, which I thought was the sacred rule of the same people who jumped on him for it - that men can't do anything unless a woman grants him permission. Creepy? Yes. But he asked. And as usual, the goal post was moved. Now the reason it was unacceptable was because he's famous - a new rule pulled out the ass after their previous requirements were met. There's no winning. You can never satisfy them. The bar will always be raised higher everytime you reach it so there can always be a victim. Now he's gonna be held at the same level as dirtbags who actually commit real assault
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@Kangaroo Jacked, with the way the world is going, men are just going to run away screaming at the sight of women.
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@Kangaroo Jacked, Just because you ask for consent, it doesn’t mean that you automatically get it. I think that the problem was that he asked for consent but proceeded anyway regardless of the answer. It’s like how if I ask to have your watch, I don’t get to just take it from you because I asked. I need a yes or a no.
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@Water Stone, either he or one of the women said he wouldn't proceed if they said no. He'd apologize and wouldn't push it
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@Kangaroo Jacked, Reading back on two articles about the incident from the New York Times, it doesn’t seem explicitly clear whether or not the women consented in all cases but he did ask for the majority of them (I was unsure for one of them). And in his apology that was also posted on the New York Times, he admitted that he thought it was fine because he asked but he also admitted that power that he reputation held over others. I don’t know all the exact details of the cases, but it seems from what I’ve read, it’s implied that he still used his reputation and the power from it (whether intentionally or not) to pressure some women into the situations that happened.
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@Water Stone, The issue that I see here and that I had with your comment is that just because consent is asked, it does not justify the situation because people can still be coerced into situations. The articles I read: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/arts/television/louis-ck-statement.amp.html
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@Water Stone, the part about power is more open to debate. The main issue i have with most of those news sites like nytimes or vox or huff is they purposely don't tell you "yes" or "no". They leave it vague and then tell you their opinion instead of letting you come to it yourself
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@Kangaroo Jacked, The part about power is what I interpreted from the apology article. But I definitely get annoyed from the vagueness too since I just want to know what happened but they won’t give us a straight answer. The media just twists things around to what will benefit them most and no one can ever learn the truth or how to improve as a society.
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No corellation
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@CrazyManInaBox, not in content, but the actor/comedian might have more in common than you think.
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@Gallium , Not really. Louis C.K. asked for consent (it is unclear as to whether it was given; his apology implies that the women felt coerced and he was unaware). Kevin Spacey was accused of touching a teenage boy and just said "I'm gay now" and also said his excuse was that he was drunk. In the words of Milo Yiannopolous: "I've been to many parties. I've been very drunk. It has never made me want to touch little boys."
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You like men that sexually assault boys? Then we think you might also like men that assault women.
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@Dyslexic eman resu, Except Louis CK never assaulted anybody. He exposed himself in front of 2 women after inviting them back to his room and asking permission to do so.
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@BigfootUnibrowMan, Emotional assault..... Checkmate
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@BigfootUnibrowMan, oh, so that makes it ok? Its still sexual harassment because they never said yes
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@sadlersongs, guess you didn't read the part about getting their permission first? If they weren't okay with it they could have walked out at any time
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@BigfootUnibrowMan, he only asked them and Louis CK never actually said that they said yes. These women were hoping to learn from him and have some doors opened for their careers and he took advantage of that by exposing himself. What he did is wrong
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@BigfootUnibrowMan, not to be that guy, but one of the Donald Trump Accusers' on Megyn Kelly's shjt show complaint was actually that he asked for her phone number
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@Medic135, Exactly, can't even flirt nowadays without catching a lawsuit
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@sadlersongs, They actually claimed to have said yes, not him. When turned down at a later date, he accepted it.
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Savage.
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