Ive seem the new movie now. I can come back to the comment section without fear of spoilers. Been avoiding it until I watched the movie.
I wont spoil the movie. Because Im not an a55. But I will say this. I thought the movie was awesome and epic. To the people that are complaining about it. From one huge fan of Star Wars to another. Get over it. Seriously those people are never satisfied. Look I know those type want to recapture their childhood. But. Your childhood is gone. To bad so sad. You want to recapture it... watch the originals. This is a new movie not the old ones so of course its going to have new and different stuff. Learn to enjoy the new ones for what they have. Not what your fantasy say they should be.
No matter what they do. There will always be people who arent happy with it.
@Seohn, Heres a good example of me getting over a movie not being made the way I would like it to be. Ready Player One. Is my favorite book. Ive already heard of a bunch of changes being made to it when it goes to movie. Do you think I’ll be disappointed with the movie? No. Because I am not such a simpleton that I don’t realize how impossible it would be to make that book into a movie. Which is why Im glad Steven Spielberg is doing it. There are a ton of references in the book to 80s stuff. Way too many references for them to get the rights to put into a movie. Only an idiot would not realize that. And not realize that’s why the movie will never be like the book. So I plan to watch it as a tribute to the book. No way I can be disappointed then. I’ll enjoy it for what it is.
@Seohn, I applaud you. For multiple reasons.
1. I (and my parents) think that The Last Jedi was actually the single best live action film produced set in the Star Wars universe. To challenge that precept, immediately after seeing TLJ in theatres, we then watched the blu Ray special anthology of the original six movies, in chronological order. Far from recapturing our past experiences, we realized that the reason why ESB is hailed as the best movie is actually because ANH is one of the hokiest, laziest examples of storytelling, and that were it not for the fact that it pioneered practical special effects as we know it, there is literally nothing else that is special about the movie. None of the concepts are original, none of the characters had depth, and while it was unarguably the spark that ignited a marvellous cultural staple, Star Wars: A New Hope is important for what it represented, not for what it is. Because what it is, is a B movie.
2. “Ass” is not censored on here.
3. I did not at first know that Ready Player One was based on a book, and I intend to wait to read that book until after I have seen the movie. As a childhood book fan, and as an adult screenwriter, I understand why it is so difficult to create a book adaptation that both pleases the fans of the book and succeeds as a film. It’s a razor’s edge to walk.
But the concept of the world presented in Ready Player One is very interesting to me even without knowing the actual plot of the story (I find the trailers to be quite weak on actual plotlines, which I take zero issue with). The idea of fantasy overtaking reality is a very real threat, I think. I know that if I had access to a Star Trek replicator and holodeck that I’d never leave it.
I believe that the next step from VR, complete sensory immersion VR, will actually pose an extinction level threat to humanity if we don’t approach it properly. I think that this falls under the Technological Self Destruction galactic filter.
@Seohn, The original three were good, but they’ve acquired such a cult following that nothing will ever be good enough. Seriously, you could give the fandom collective amnesia so they all forgot everything made after Empire Strikes Back existed, put Return of the Jedi out in the cinemas and you’d still have people bitching about how lame a follow up to the original two it was.
@Seohn, personally, I loved it! Laughed my ass off, there were so many great jokes! Totally buying it when it comes out later
@I Are Lebo, I agree.
@Seohn, “get over it” is a pretty poor excuse for some dreadful character moments. No spoilers, but Luke doesn’t behave anything like Luke would, and the entire Rose and Finn side plot was bloated and useless. It had its good moments, but remove it from Star Wars and it’s still a disappointing sci-fi movie.
@FP Waiter, remove any star wars film from the franchise and they're weird. You want some bad character moments, remember the Luke-Leia kiss? Luke's entire encounter with Yoda on degobah is a writing mess. It's all hokey nonsense. Every scene. But the old movies are excusable because people like you view them through the rose coloured glasses of nostalgia. You don't realize how bad they were in the moment. Hollywood is making a good addition to a franchise that will revitalize the entire idea of star wars to an entirely new generation, it's bad because you don't like the creative story direction. Settle down with your amateur appraisal and misguided criticism, because you know you'll buy a ticket to the next one.
@crazylampshademan, how is the first encounter with Yoda hokey nonsense?
@Yourpersonalstalker, I meant in conjunction with the whole original trilogy, but to be specific about Yoda, he's totally ridiculous. The actual blocking and movements of both Luke and Yoda for the whole interaction is bad, but in the best ways, when we look back on it. That's my point though. You were able to look passed a bad puppet and weird dialogue from the original, but want to tear apart a new thing for the sake of it. Bad film doesn't mean a bad movie. Good film doesn't mean a good movie.
@crazylampshademan, I see your point, thank you for explaining
@FP Waiter, hate to break it to you, but the Luke in the film is not the same Luke that you think you know.
@Danger Noodle, Luke in the original trilogy saw the good in Vader and tried to save him. Luke in Last Jedi handles Ben rather differently.
@FP Waiter, well, 30 years is a long time. His thought process, for that split second which he regretted, was the same as Mace Windu's regarding Palpatine. When he was younger, he may have been that way, but again, 30 years is a long time.
@Seohn, canto bight was useless. No need for that. Legit 30 mins or more of that none sense that led nowhere
@Seohn, I’m with you, just saw episode viii a few days ago and it blew my mind. Of course I loved the originals, and I honestly didn’t mind the prequels because they came out when I was a kid so I thought they were awesome (a bit different watching them now), but this movie was so good in so many ways. I’m more worried about them not being able to wrap it up neatly in a trilogy, the way it ends I’d say there’s a least two movies worth of content they could have. Also, didn’t know Ready Player One was based off a book, but the trailers make it looks amazing so I sure as hell am going to read it later
@Seohn, but have you considered the fact that some people’s not liking the movie has nothing to do with childhood, fan theories, or expectations
@griffinstorme, of course we consider that, but the vast majority of criticisms for The Last Jedi apply equally, if not more so, to the original series. The complaints about Snoke apply to The Emperor. The complaints about Rey apply to Luke from the original series. The complaints for Poe apply somewhat for Han in the originals.
There are absolutely valid criticisms of The Last Jedi. It is pretty far from a perfect movie. But to act like it is the worst movie in the series is to ignore the quality of basically every other movie in the series, and to get caught up on nitpicking.
From a filmmakers point of view, and the rules of drama, I would argue that The Last Jedi is one of the BEST movies in the franchise, due in very large part to the fact that episode 4 is a whopping 40 years old.
Try showing a completely unbiased person the original series and see if they still like it. I doubt it, considering the only reasonable ways to get an unbiased person would require either a young
child, and the child will be unlikely to enjoy the movie if only because of the pacing.
@Danger Noodle, I agree. Im not the same person I was 20 years ago. So the changes to Luke aren’t outside the possibility of his character. They weren’t even that drastic of changes.
@griffinstorme, If someone didn’t like it because it was a bad moving that’s one thing. When people start complaining that it should be wiped from the Star Wars story line and remade. Those are fan who are never happy. Those are the ones who can get over it.
@Seohn, as someone who has loved everything Star Wars has done (games, books, and films) and hates pretty much only the 8th movie... fück off. It's bad because it doesn't explain anything, killed off a major villain before he even got out of his chair once, spent time drilling in information that went nowhere, and focused entirely too much on the space fighting to be called "the last Jedi".
@FP Waiter, are you just forgetting the part where Luke beat Vader’s ass out of anger and hate to the point that he cut off his hand (again)? Luke had some temper problems. The fact he didn’t strike Ben is progress for Luke.
Wanna buy some Dethsticks?
@GrimMrGosh, you don't want to sell me dethsticks
@goldragon99, I don't wanna sell you Dethsticks...
@GrimMrGosh, you want to go home and rethink your life
@goldragon99, I want to go home and rethink my life...
@GrimMrGosh, fun fact: that guy was played by George Lucas’ son.
@I Are Lebo, that guy was played by George Lucas’ son...
@Pubmarine Shamwich, yes. The death stick guy is Lucas’ son, and the only reason why I refer to him that way is because he is apparently so unimportant otherwise, that I simply can’t be bothered to remember his name.
I don’t disagree. Still doesn’t make me like episode 8. It wasn’t terrible. It wasn’t great. It was meh.
“Meesa thinksa yousa overreacti —.” *gets sabered in half*
I was just talking about how fans hated the movie because the theories they made up in their heads by over thinking the smallest details wasn't in the movie. Rian Johnson was like "Oh, you thought Rey's parents were going to be somebody special or from the previous trilogies? You thought Snoke was going to actually be someone from the previous movies or a god-like darkside user? Too fvcking bad!" Personally I think it's hilarious that he sh!t on everyone's theories.
@Technosexual , remember before episode 7 came out and everyone was theorizing that behind the mask of Kylo Ren was actually Luke Skywalker?
@I Are Lebo, yup. And they got all butthurt when it wasn't true.
I dont know what I dislike more, the hardcore fans over-reacting to the plot holes or smug, verified twitter nobodies being condescending jack@sses over the movie itself. Rotten Tomatoes show that it's pretty mixed for the hype
Jesse eat a snickers.
“I hate Star Wars fans”
-me, a Star Wars fan
If anyone wants the best star wars experience of their lives and can get over some really shjtty ai, Jedi Knight - Jedi Outcast is to this day my #1 favorite star wars anything.
I was the best part of those films
Ah, so because the prequels were also bad, we’re not allowed to criticise the new movie, even though it’s bad.
But for real. Who are the big bad asses now? Rey the only Jedi and kylo the only bad guy who s a bish
I mean he says that like the children are the ones complaining.
@Udder Despair, the ones complaining are behaving like children. That's why he posted these in the first place.