The National Labor Relations Act contains a provision, Section 7 (29 U.S.C. § 157), that gives all employees the right to "engage in concerted activities", including the right to discuss their terms and conditions of employment with each other. Section 8(a)(1) of the NLRA (29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1)) makes it an unfair labor practice for an employer to deny or limit the Section 7 rights of employees. Based upon those two provisions, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) has taken the position for decades now that employers may not prohibit employees from discussing their pay and benefits, and that any attempts to do so actually violate the NLRA.
@Tsaltydog, however, one caveat is that if you are in a supervisory position, you are exempt from this, since you have obtained access to other employees salary information through the course of your job.
@Tsaltydog, this is really useful information to me right now because I’ve been considering asking for a raise but don’t want to be greedy if my coworkers make less than I do.
@HoorayFerSocks, it’s not being greedy to ask for a raise even if they do make less. You have a right to ask for what you feel you deserve regardless of what others make
@Mkb617, good point. *asks for one MEEELION dollars*
@Tsaltydog, if i work at a bank does it still work this way? I remember a clause in the National Labor Relations Act that saud something about federal reserve banks not being covered in the act or something.
@Tsaltydog, Are individual positions allowed to contractually prohibit this or is it a universal constant for US jobs?
Everyone gets paid the same, less than they're worth but enough to keep coming back.
It rarely works out well when you find out what each other make at work. Usually someone gets mad if someone makes more than them and it causes problems. Just better off worrying about yourself.
@Tylerdurdin, the whole point is you probably shouldn't be making more than them if you have the same job ( excluding raises for good performance/ time with company)
@Tylerdurdin, you loose an incredibly valuable bargaining chip when fighting for wages with an employer
@carguy25, yeah makes sense. I've just had trouble with people making more cause they've"been there longer" but rarely get anything done. Then i just end up miserable and mad at the managers. Of course the last company i worked for went bankrupt so that's probably not a good example lol
@Tylerdurdin, when I was doing hiring, people will ask me if it was ok to tell other people how much they made. (At Walmart, different positions have different pay levels) I will tell them that there is no problem with that, just to be aware that there will be gossip. Someone always gets but hurt.
Did anyone think you couldn’t? It may be discouraged some places but I’m pretty sure nobody is telling you that you can’t.
@Blasphemy is Fun, I’ve actually had workplaces put out memos explicitly saying we aren’t allowed to discuss our wage with anyone else.
@Bawes, Oh weird, did anyone take it seriously? I thought it was common knowledge that it was your right to discuss wages.
@Bawes, that's actually illegal for a business to tell you that you can't discuss your wages with co-workers. But business still do it all the time.
@ALargeRacoon, is it illegal? Seems to be a condition work could put on employees, if they are at work that is. In the U.S. its crazy how much power employers have
@Oujosh29, Yea you just anonymously report them to the Better Business bureau. I've done it before. Its just a fine, but if enough people did it they'd probably stop.
@ALargeRacoon, businesses can tell you a lot of things. It doesn’t mean it is illegal for them to say it. They could probably get in trouble for trying to enforce it but I doubt it is illegal to say it.
@Mkb617, see Tsaltydog's comment. The purpose is to ensure fair wages for employees. Imagine you and someone else both got hired for the same job and you both have the same amount of experience, education, ect. Suppose you're getting $15/hr and you find out the other person is getting $20/hr. You'd feel kinda ripped off wouldn't you? It becomes even more perturbing if you add factors of race and sex into the situation. This is what the law is there to prevent.
@ALargeRacoon, I never once said or implied that I did not understand why people should be able to discuss wages if they chose too. I was however wrong in thinking that it was not a law. And honestly if I worked out what I thought was a fair wage for myself and later found out someone did better, I would not be mad at anyone other than myself.
We all poor and getting underpaid discussing it ain’t going to change that
@Thone09, robbing a bank with your work colleagues would
@Thone09, maybe if we did. Unions would regain popularity
Wagner act, I believe?
Great! Now I know which coworkers house to rob, thanks tiny froggo!
Discussing your pay, wether legal or not, is a great way to cause issues between co-workers. Just don't do it....
I was once the highest paid person at my place of employment in my level of rank, with the least experience. Funny what you can accomplish by being just a little pushy lol
The company can still fire you though
It isn't illegal but it sure is stupid. Unless you hate working there.
Ok. Why is this funny?
People actually thought it was illegal? They don’t want you to talk about it because it can cause people to get upset. If someone said it was illegal and someone else believed it, that is their fault for being gullible
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Thankyou lawyer frog