The issue isn't that she's black, she is playing an orange alien so who cares, issue is the costume looks sh!tty
@Scottles, notes need to be taken from Zoe Saldana who played Gamora by being fully green. She did a great job.
@CrazyCrichton , damn right, and she's insanely sexy but I don't know what that has to do with this
@Scottles, she's a black woman who went into character correctly, it's pretty relevant compared to the black woman playing a character that looks like she walked out of a cheap club in the East end of the ghetto
@Scottles, people were saying beast boy and raven looked like drug addicts while starfire looked like a prostitute. After looking at the leaked photos I kind of have to agree. Hopefully this tv show gets proper funding and isn't another low effort superhero show
@Scottles, all the titans look dodgy, including Raven, Beastboy as well as Starfire. When I saw the shots I immediately thought of how badly Light looked in the Death Note live action where they made the whole cast look like drug dealers
"And if you don't like it you're racist!"
@Sexy Homunculus, that’s basically what she said in an interview
@Sexy Homunculus, I want my sexy alien babe with orange skin...is that too much to ask!?
@Sexy Homunculus, I think Raven and Beast Boy look stupid too so that cancels out the racist part, right?
@The Dream Reamer, I honest to goodness thought it was a production skill from Disney's Descendants...
@Thane of Deez, Do you know which interview that was in??
@Good Guy Satan, I saw it on Screen Rant “DC’s Titans Actress Responds To Starfire Backlash & Hate Speech”
@Thane of Deez, Thanks man. I'm going for go and check it out because honestly this isn't about racism it's about keeping the authenticity of a beloved character
@Good Guy Satan, exactly. All we want is for the director to stay true to the source material. The only way it would be a racist issue is if a racist made it such
Like raven and beast boy look better... they all look like cheap sh*tty cosplay
@SecretlyaStark, my thoughts exactly
Pandering to the vocal political minority will only get you a minority of the views you want. Listen to the fans and you will get more views than you can ask for. I don’t know how this will end up, and I don’t care what color she is, as long as she’s not a token character and fits the role well, but this looks like pandering to me...
Edit: in reference to the “don’t care what color she is as long as she’s not a token character” I’m not referring directly to who’s playing starfire, it’s more of using this as an example of my opinion on minor character changes due to minor details (hair length/style boob size, and all that sh!t) vs major deliberate changes to pander to an audience or bring in a new audience
@UncommonSense, Yeah and watch what happens if you ever changed a character of color to white (such as in Dr strange) and suddenly it's whitewashing Hollywood.
@UncommonSense, yea man. I understand if the actor is amazing and the best fit, but i hate when a role is given to someone of a dif race just for the sake of being more progressive and diverse.
@UncommonSense, I would disagree with that. It's like saying I don't care if superman is played by a Asian 5 year old with pink nails and purple hair. As long as he plays the part right. It's called suspension of belief the actor and the character need to look at least a little similar for Emersion reasons.
@BlazingBowman, well yes, obviously. Small things don’t bother me, but this starfire thing is pandering. I was more referring to minor characters of movies and tv shows when talking about changes. The problem is when they do it to characters that obviously aren’t the color/sex/sexual orientation in, for example, a book, that they are in a movie/play (hermione in a Harry Potter play is black for some reason even though it stated in the books that she had pale white skin, and this actress was chosen by JK Rowling herself). Background characters, hair color, height, hair style, etc. don’t really matter to me as long as they weren’t mentioned in the source material. All I know is that this was done to pander to the SJW press to avoid a controversy that would probably have only gotten them more views from those seeing they stayed true to the source material.
TLDR; they done goofed, I dislike it, need to stick to source material and stop sucking PC police batons (if you catch my drift)
@UncommonSense, if they had stuck to the source material and flipped off the outrage mob they would've gotten more viewers. Either that or it was a case of virtue signaling and not the director being bullied by a mob on social media. I don't know which.
@UncommonSense, I’d agree - if the actor is the best one for the role, skin colour doesn’t have to be an issue. As long as the role is well written & acted, and their heritage isn’t an integral part of the character (for example, it wouldn’t have made a massive difference if Dr Strange wasn’t white, but Gambit has to be to fit with his Cajun roots) then they should just cast the person who auditions best for the role.
It should never be done just to pander to SJWs/be progressive, and it should apply in all cases rather than just characters who were originally white (Although that is trickier as they are often given specific ethnicities for their characterisation - couldn’t easily have a white guy from Wakanda!)
@BlazingBowman, I doubt the director came under fire, if they did, the comic community would’ve backed him and it probably would’ve prevented this. I feel like it was a pick made by someone ABOVE the director to add more diversity and starfire was either the last major character to be cast so it fell to her, or there weren’t many other actors/actresses of color that auditioned for other part that were good enough to make the cut and so the end result was her being chosen due to being a good actress that auditioned where others didn’t
@Nellybert , exactly. If the writing is good and the movie was more of a “based on” situation rather than following a direct story arc and their heritage isn’t specified, it shouldn’t matter. The thing that sucks is no one really makes original movies anymore, or ones based on stories where heritage isn’t mentioned directly.
A good one was “the princess and the frog” from Disney. Taking a fairy tale I read out of a book when I was, like, 6 and has no heritage related background (that I can think of) and adding a random heritage, random location, and random era worked really well. Can you imagine if they make that somehow live action/CG assisted live action? I would watch that, easily.
They could also just determine that their race or background is irrelevant to the story like “I Am Legend”. In the book the scientist is white. The movie? Will Smith. Why? Because his race didn’t matter to the story, and they had an actor that interested and a good fit for the dramatic role.
@UncommonSense, lol starfire has orange skin, not white or black, it's not like eny ones asking for her to be white for the sake of white is better. Just to look anything remotely like her character given that skin color is the most visible color. That's all I would argue atleast. Like if making that blue god guy from x-men all rainbow and sh1t.
@UncommonSense, she's ORANGE
@UncommonSense, Maybe they knew the show was going to be horrible. Due to poor costumes and story. So they hired different races to play characters to appeal to the minority and SJW to up views.
Although I always thought cyborg was part of the group and that he wasn’t white. So why switch up another character. They could’ve made it more diverse with people of other races.
@UncommonSense, to the people replying saying she’s orange, is there proof that they’re going to change her color in post production? I feel like they aren’t going to due to budgeting, laziness, and “diversity points”
I looked up pictures and it does look like hot garbage but I don't care if she's played by a black, white, Asian, Hispanic or Lithuanian woman she's fúcking orange anyway that's what they messed up
The costume looks horrible from the picture that came out, and the hair isn’t even the right color... that being said everything is done in post these days, so I’ll wait for at least the trailer to come out until I pass judgment.
@Blasphemy is Fun, Problem with that is, this is a TV show. They won't have to budget for constant, and good cgi. If they have a constant effect on her, it'll look awful.
Is that Nicky Minaj without her make up?
@chickee fella, with*
@chickee fella, no, that’s Tom Hanks.
I don't care that she's black I care that they made her look terrible. That purple dress? She had on made her look like a cheap hooker. That fake a$$ cheap dollar tree wig was the worse part. I saw what the actor actually looks like and they could have done sooo much better. I just hope she plays the character well and they don't make her a moody child.
Can we also talk about Ravens hair? It looks like a halfassed home dye job, my hair looks better than that! :/
I feel like I need some context
@Langenator, teen titans live action series coming out.
Star fire looks like this in a horrible Halloween store costume looking outfit. Looking like a hooker.
From what we've seen at least
@Langenator, amateur cosplays look better than what the costume department has put out. Its... sad.
@bootyman, streetwalker was what first came to mind. (Starfire the Streetwalker...)
I don't know guys, I dig black surefire. I mean it's not like Starfire's white anyway
Donald Trump would look more like Starfire than this girl
Seriously she's supposed to be a beautiful light orange alien girl and we get ghetto starfiya
No its not racist if you don't like the new starfire.
It is if it's because she's black.