Pizza Safety will be my number one priority if elected Emperor of The Wasteland formally know as America
"BUT WHO WILL BUILD THE ROADS?!" -Statists
Domino's will. The free market will. There's a profit incentive in having a way for employees and customers to be able to travel to your business.
@Doctor Krieger, Plus, they’ve obviously found a way to use the opportunity as their own advertising
@Doctor Krieger, The problem is that a government should be wanting the same things and do it themselves. Transportation is the key to a successful empire/nation, just ask the Romans or the Inca.
@WifitheRouter, the government only cares about stealing your money
@WifitheRouter, you just listed two empires that failed as examples of successful empires...
@Doctor Krieger, All empires fall. Also, they both lasted longer than the US has so far.
@WifitheRouter, you can't have it both ways. Either they fail or they are successful.
@Doctor Krieger, They succeed until they fail. By your logic, either things live or die, despite the fact that everything dies
@WifitheRouter, by my logic, any state is doomed to fail eventually. If something always ends in failure, it is a failure in and of itself.
The market doesn't fail where it is allowed to exist unmolested.
@Doctor Krieger, possibly one of the most evil lines of reasoning I've seen. People thinking that this is okay will lead us into a dystopia. Corporations ARE trying to become a psuedogovernment, and will if we allow it.
@CapitalismDoesntWork, First off, the state itself is simply a corporation with a monopoly on the use of force.
Second, corporations can collude with the state and exert control over the people in the first place precisely because the state is in the market. It's why lobbying exists. In an unmolested market, there's nothing to collude with to gain such control. There's no centralized authorities or monopolies on the use of force. There's no state. The use of force may still be exercised, yes, but by everyone.
Finally, I love how the guy unironically aligned with the single most genocidal and oppressive school of ideology is telling me that what I'm saying is evil. I mean, I only have centuries of evidence in the form of failed states, particularly socialist ones, and of markets lifting people out of poverty and technological stagnation. What do you have? Over 100 million dead in a single century? You calling my reasoning evil seems like a good thing considering where you stand.
@Doctor Krieger, that’s pretty delusional. This is one company doing a marketing stunt. They won’t fix the nations roads. Not even the states I bet. Even so, they’re doing this without any regulation, so who knows the quality of these infrastructure repairs.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending our current system, but you can’t go all out and say the free market will take care of these things. That’s bogus.
@Doctor Krieger, I dont like the state either, but I also dont like corporate domination, which happens without state regulation.
The market isnt an inherently good thing. An unmolested market is what oppresses and kills people. A state actually cares what its citizens think.
And I'm not a communist either. We agree about the state domination thing.
@CapitalismDoesntWork, are you trolling me right now? I genuinely can't tell whether you're an idiot or a troll.
@Doctor Krieger, No, I actually think about things.
And you're serious too?
How is it embarrassing? Not only do we regularly maintain our roads to a very high standard compared to other first world countries but now the capitalist market will pitch in millions or even billions fixing the roads that fall through the cracks and aren't properly maintained, I'm hella proud of Dominos now lol
@ Seductive Cheeto, I would be interested to know your sources for this statement because everything I have seen regarding this is that America’s roads are in terrible condition. The American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) grades Americas road infrastructure as a D- as of 2015. You can check out their infrastructure report card which contains great information on the subject
@theonetruepow3r, I tend to take that with a grain of salt because while it does examine our roads objectively, it does not compare us fairly to other countries nor does it take into account criminality causing motor vehicle deaths. We are a giant landmass of a country with faulty welfare and single payer systems wasting trillions of dollars, yet we are still 12th in the world regarding our national infrastructure. The standard may be a C for the world and currently we are a D, so that's a comparatively high standard in my books! :)
@ Seductive Cheeto, I think that optimism is misplaced though. Comparing the infrastructures of different nations is like comparing apples to oranges. There is no way to compare the needs of America to a country like England or France. Particularly when the primary source of funding for roads (what amounts to a tax on your gas) hasn’t risen with inflation since 1993. This means that a bad situation is likely to get worse and we need other sources of revenue. It’s kind of sad for that revenue to be a pizza company
@theonetruepow3r, what's wrong with optimism, this is an example of the market helping it's home country. Sure we can and need to improve, but that doesn't mean we need spurn the pros of our free market just cause, that seems pretty pessimistic.
@ Seductive Cheeto, I have serious doubt that dominoes can provide the amount of resources to make a serious dent in road conditions. How much profit does dominoes actually lose to poor road conditions? If anything, poor road conditions helped their business because if a pizza is ruined the customer has to order again (before the “carry out insurance” thing). Basically, where you see market forces, I see marketing stunts. I don’t see lasting change to dominoes business strategy
@ Seductive Cheeto, This is obviously a marketing stunt. It's not like domino's has gone out and said "we're fixing all roads in america" or anything. A few patches here and there is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than to pay for the publicity this creates.
@theonetruepow3r, therefore because their good gesture can't fix the complete problem it should be met with vitriol? We should be thankful that a company would even do this, and yeah it is a simple marketing stunt, but I'm thinking what if we celebrate this and Amazon joins in, USPS, Adidas, Nike, McDonald's, Papa John's, etc. Why jump to this saddo view of calling it embarrassing and a ridiculing it as a simple marketing stunt? They're providing charity, why not be thankful for a gift we didn't expect? If instead of meeting these companies with hostility, a celebration of the little things they do for the public could make it a marketable and popular option for the corporations, who knows how many problems they could seriously help us with if 10 of these companies started doing these "marketing stunts" that support American infrastucture. I rather applaud an act of charity however small it may be rather than jeer at it for not being enough, just be thankful for what I get.
@ Seductive Cheeto, I don’t think they should have to and I don’t believe it to be charity. What can I say? I have always been taught that it was the government’s job to fund the roads and the schools. Since the government can’t find the roads a pizza company is doing it for them. I find that sad. Particularly since I don’t believe they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart. Call me cynical but I just don’t see it the same way you do. It’s embarrassing to me that a company is more concerned about our country’s infrastructure than the people elected to serve us for the public’s good. That is ultimately what saddens me
@theonetruepow3r, I don't think they have to either, but charity is charity, you can't deny it because that is simply what they are doing. While you see it as our government not caring we just don't have the money and our congress won't accept taking money out of other systems which are wasting money, we already have a budget of 1.5 trillions dollars for our infrastructure. I don't see what is there to gain from being sad and simply viewing this as our government not caring, I view it as Americans doing what they can to help, it's pretty cruel to just slap aside their good gesture. I find more use in viewing this with happiness and applauding their gesture, while at the same time demanding change. Why can't it be that? We should instead just be like "how dare you for trying to help" and be depressed that we don't have a perfect system? That's childish, there can be no perfect system so we just have to strive for being better, and I'm much gladder that companies are seeking to help.
@ Seductive Cheeto, I believe you are mischaracterizing my arguments. I don’t believe I ever said I was “depressed” by dominoes actions not necessarily saying we should “slap aside” dominoes good will gestures. I use “sad” like it is in the context of the original article where it’s used lightheartedly to note something that makes the individual less happy but shouldn’t be taken very seriously. I do not believe I have expressed myself very clearly in my previous comments but I take exception to being called “childish” for merely taking a different position than you. I think it is clear we see the world differently, and that’s fine. I see the tone of our comments changing from our original discussion and it is going in a direction I would prefer it not go in. I found it interesting to hear a different side to this discussion and though ultimately I don’t agree with you, I see where you are coming from.
@theonetruepow3r, I'm sorry I wasn't attacking you directly I was attacking your position, I understand where you come from too but I feel that it simply is not helpful to view the situation in such a way and may in fact be detrimental, my outlook may simply not do anything to help either but what is there to lose with putting on a smile and hoping for the best, we've only got something to gain that way
@theonetruepow3r, To say a company is more concerned with our country’s infrastructure than our government is objectively pretty unfair. While the government definitely needs to step up its game, it also is forced to prioritize expenditures and improvements because the government is in charge of the maintenance and upkeep of many things in a wide variety of areas, from Veteran’s Affairs to freakin’ roads. They would eventually fix these specific roads, it would just take years to get around to. I see no problem with Dominos helping locally to expedite the process, even if their sole intention is not out of charity, but of publicity. I get that its fun to be cynical about our government, but we can be fair and objective with our government critique and still have a near infinite source of valid points.
@ Seductive Cheeto, I have a general optimism except for 2 things: traffic and political topics (in this case government affairs not necessarily the same thing as politics but I roll them together) so this topic kind of hit the pessimistic sweet spot for me
@ Seductive Cheeto, this is one company pulling a marketing stunt in one town. Do you really think all large corporations will just Willingly band together to fix America’s infrastructure now?
So Dominos has taken over Pennsylvania? I'm cool with these new overlords
If America paved roads to last instead of to be fixed and redone over the course of 5 years, the roads would be a thousand times better.
@blind, 5 years?
@DrawinAblank, Abouts, yeah. I'm not sure where you reside, but in south east Michigan the roads don't last very long. Now, I understand places where accidents happen may need work because of it, but the roads are built so poorly, the wear and tear on them cause the roads to be fixed and repaired every year until they decide to just gut the thing and rebuild it. Our season's are winter, spring, construction, fall.
@blind, I'm in the northeast so our winters destroy our roads. Granted asphalt doesn't last forever 5 years is way to short a lifespan. Most of the time the potholes and uneven patches you see are from matianence under the road (i.e. water pipes, sewer lines, ect.) And then patched over creating uneven services. Although there is shotty work in any line of field no matter where you are, its (in my experience) a small percentage of the problem. As far as consider construction a season you're partially right but consider all the construction workers cram a whole year of work into half a year being (mostly) laid off in the winter. That being said construction is a billion dollar industrie giving jobs to millions of citizens earning an honest dollar, me included.
@blind, South East Michigan sounds eerily similar to Eastern Washington....
I, for one, welcome our new MegaCorp overlords, and look forward to shadowrunning with the best of you.
Okay but as I looked at this picture the commercial came on my tv for the first time...I am a little concerned...
Well, duh... we've been stuck in Purgatory since December 21, 2012. Why has no one else noticed this?
Wish the local one did. First week working there and my radiator got punctured due how how hazardously deep a dip with a hole in it was. They refused to cover the replacement of my radiator of course.
If we had flying cars like BTTF we wouldn’t need roads.
It’s because we’ve got ALL the dystopian futures.
@Lord Wivern, what's so dystopian about the market proving itself, yet again, to be more effective than the state?
It’s just a PR stunt. They’ve only fixed like 60 potholes. Out of tens of thousands
Capitalism is awesome
Fairly certain that this is the plot to an Ayn Rand novel.