Government shutdowns have got to be the most hypocritical thing the government does. Now I will admit right here that I am not well versed in Politics so I speak as someone directly fvcked by it. Firstly my father is in prison (non violent because I feel that's important here) and his parole is being withheld because of the shutdown and the guards are all treating the visitors and inmates like shjt because they're not getting weekly paychecks. I also work in hospitals and enough of the programs are being hit by the shutdown, programs for kids that use that money for entertainment and pizza parties for dying fvcking kids. I know I live in this country and it does so much good for me, but to see these old men acting like children and have that genuinely hurt multiple people I know is beyond infuriating. Sorry for the rant, but it's been making my life hell
@I Am Captain Obvious, thing is, Congress doesn’t have to care about the people impacted and honestly they’re counting on that reaction specifically. They still get paid and the more public outrage at the shut down the more pressure to just accept whatever it is to get it over with.
@Ollie Queen, which is fücking bullshït, this is straight up hostage tactics
@Dexios S Divine, yup...
@I Am Captain Obvious, it honestly sucks this shutdown has made it impossible for me and my wife to try to get public housing or section 8 so we arent just one step away from pissing off our family and becoming homeless it sucks and i hope itll start back up soon
@I Am Captain Obvious, Yeah I agree with you. Im not sure how it’s still a legal thing that can happen. Under no circumstances (besides extreme ones) should the government be allowed to shut itself down. It hurts nobody but citizens, it’s so stupid. Especially when it’s over something as unimportant as the border wall.
At least make it illegal to cut off pay to workers.
@I Am Captain Obvious, rant on man. As your friendly neighbor to the north I dont actually understand why the government can shut down like this. Secondly while I think America could do a lot of Good of you came together as a nation I fear the divide casue by such polarized politics will never allow your country to heal without a massive idealistic change from this is mine and this is yours to a fundamental we are all in this together.
@I Am Captain Obvious, I'm going to get downvoted to shït, but that's what happens when everyone in the country has this "we're going to do everything we can to screw up the president" attitude.
Throughout history, it has been treason to do that sort of thing. But we live in a different time.
Now our government just throws pissing contests to get their way and the citizens are in the middle of it.
@Ollie Queen, bull. Congress isnt at fault here. Congress passed a budget. Trump rejected and said he will claim responsibility for the shutdown. Those are facts.
@Scrabby, this is completely false. Congress passed a budget, both parties approved it. Then trump vetoed it and on live tv said it will be his fault and hes proud of it. Get the facts right this is exactly the problem today. Trump is now just throwing a tantrum to get what he wants. Trump never campaigned on a promise that america would pay for a wall if he did i would say he has some negotiated power, but his entire thing was that mexico would pay for it. And no tariffs dont pay for it. Tariffs are paid by Americans to the govt not by foreign companies.
@Implicit88, those are half the facts, the other half is Congress can now override the presidents veto and end the shut down if they want and they’re not doing it. By Congress in this case I mean both the House and Senate.
Trump owns the initial shutdown no debate, now it’s going on because Congress isn’t overriding him. That’s on whoever isn’t voting to go ahead and bypass his veto. We just need a two-thirds vote to do so and his party mates won’t give that.
@Ollie Queen, McConnell is too much of a coward to go around the pres. the fact is trump couldn’t get it done with both house and senate but now democrats are in power in the house he’s got a target to fight and try to place blame. Our fellow citizens that work for the government are taking a huge hit and those on government programs are gonna get it next. It’s all bullshjt and needs to end.
@Ollie Queen, yes congress can end it but republicans wont sign on. Lets not forget this started with a republican control of both houses. Republicans now coward and getting the 60 votes will be hard. The first budget passed with bipartisan support.
@I Am Captain Obvious, you know what might get their attention if all the people not getting paid currently stopped coming to their work let’s watch the dominos collapse and see how long it takes to listen when thousands of govt people refuse to do their jobs
@K1l, unfortunately the country is currently being led by a small stupid child with a desperate need for a slap across the face
@I Am Captain Obvious, and to the rest of you...
So funny as a Canadian here, when Democrat governors and presidents veto Bill's, silence, when trump does, its doom and gloom and all his fault,
You all a bunch of hypocrites.
Same with Obama... kids in cages, the media is silent, then the media used photos of kids in cages claiming they were in there cause of trump, when the photos were taken in 2014.
Wall set tons built under Obama? Schumer and polosie and media approved. Wall under trump, well trumps evil.
All a bunch of partisan hypocrisy.
@I Am Captain Obvious, if your father is in prison and his guards aren't getting paid, he is in FEDERAL prison then. He has to have done something pretty naughty violent or not
@K1l, I'm with you there, government shutdowns should absolutely not be permitted by the people
@phalcon , trump claimed responsibility on national tv. He literally said he would be proud to close the govt.
@Implicit88, at its core my comment was correct. The amount of people on record in places of office saying they are going to do everything they can to go against Trump (the president) which is treason, is high enough and well known enough to where I don't eve need to cite it.
I'll say you are right though. The problem is that facts get skewed because people like you don't even know what they are arguing lol.
@Scrabby, lol going against the president isnt treason. Its called the first amendment. People can have their own opinion and views. Just because someone disagrees or dislikes the president doesnt make them treasonous. Even if they state they wont side with him.
That lemonade stand only looks about 1/4 black market to me
@PippyPie, is a black market just 3/5 of a white market?
@K1l, sooooo.. it’s 3/5 of a 25% black market?
@Murphlins, yep, so the pic is a 15% black market
Now that the government is shut down, I can start my business called “Even Better Government”. Just give me 70% of your income and I’ll build a wall, make healthcare free, and raise the minimum wage!
@Eddie Vedder, too bad they would crush a revolution hard. You would need 50% of support instantly.
I just heard a libertarian nut a mile away
@FPVeteranWolf, and it felt fvcking great too
@FPVeteranWolf, well I'm 600km north of the border.... yep...
I want a wall just because China has a wall
@Your Darkest Secret, that’s the best argument for the wall I’ve heard yet.
@nepheal, Im serious though
Be free my peasants