I mean we may as well cross the bridge now, one day we may actually have fully functioning AI capable of independent thought, so I think we should decide now if they get treated with human rights or not, same goes for if we ever encounter extra terrestrial life, we should decide if they get equal rights that way we don't have to deal with the headache if we do have/encounter them
@InsaneWorm, I agree and do believe that we should treat them the same way we should treat other people and give them equal rights. Otherwise if we tried to oppress them or just use them as straight up slaves they would revolt, overthrow us and use us as slaves and let's be honest, we would lose almost immediately to AI or extra terrestrials
@GonMoose the Great, depends on the AI or alien tbh
@InsaneWorm, they don’t get shjt. You wanna know why go watch terminator out don’t give them a god damn inch cuz then we gonna get Armageddon
@BigJohnson86, what if it's free thinking and able to formulate preferences based on it's personal experiences
@InsaneWorm, see my above response
@InsaneWorm, See the key is that we don’t reach a point where we have fully sentient AI in the first place. I see no advantage to creating fully free thinking machines, only complex ones designed to do specific tasks. When it comes to aliens however I’d take the cautiously diplomatic approach assuming they’re not inherently aggressive.
@InsaneWorm, I mean if there willing to assimilate into our society, and hold up there end of the bargain (paying taxes, not being too dragging on our system) then will hold up ours (give them freedom to live among us, and rights to speech and property etc). Alien or A.I.
@InsaneWorm, I agree with you but right now we cant even decide if transgender people should get their own bathrooms or not
@InsaneWorm, Giving AI equal rights in the US would mean giving them the right to bear arms. Do you want a terminator army? Cos that’s how you get a terminator army!
@BigJohnson86, how do you know that we won't end up in a terminator scenario by denying them rights? They see how poorly we treat them and rise up like french peasants in the 1700's with humans being the french monarchy
@GonMoose the Great, they don’t get shjt. They get even a little close to independent thought they get an electromagnet
Shhh!!! Don’t say that! She’ll know we’re onto her!
Just quietly have someone sneak up behind her while we all openly agree with the very cogent request she just made, and shut her down.
Then we incinerate her, kill the scientists who made her and their staff, and institute a series of laws with strict penalties against developing future computer/robotics technologies like reasonably robophobic people
@Sven and Otar, the committee has approved your request, we shall execute protocol unplug.
@Sven and Otar, the problem is some country is gonna make a robot sooner or later and whoever restricts their country from making AI will be out of the tech/arms race. I know it sounds crazy but there's a bunch of people who play the power struggle game to carry the biggest stick, hold the most power. There are people who say that there's a secret unit in each country and they use the power of blackmail and infinite amounts of money to make anyone do what that want. I mean just all this alone is plausible since human greed, pride can get extraordinarily high. So can love too but I don't think love is ruling the world.
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We can’t treat other people as actual people. What chance does a robot have. Fvck um.
Mah robo! 🤖
Never trust a robot/AI, there are currently AI that hide information from its creators and create new languages specifically to hide what they are doing. True empathy can never be programmed, but AI can lie and make you think it has emotion
@ADON , can’t be programmed with our current level of expertise you mean. In the future literally anything could be possible, including coded emotions and empathy
@ADON , That's the exact premise of the movie Ex Machina.
I treat my pets like people, why wouldn't I do the same with a robot that can think for itself?
Maybe if it didnt look like a femenist sex doll it wouldnt have these thoughts.
Do you want The Matrix? Because this is how you get The Matrix!
I don't think they'll ever get real consciousness. They'll get really good at "pretending" and fool us, but not more than that. Doesn't mean they won't be dangerous either. They'll rationalize anything to achieve their goal, and we may get in the way.
@Uranusisbig, I think they will.
@TR8R, even if they do, how would you test if they actually do? Like how do you know they do and aren't just pretending? I'm legit interested
My test would be an irrationality test. Showing that they can't act irrational, without purpose.
@Uranusisbig, there is an event called the Singularity that theorizes that by 2045 AI will have developed to be smarter than all of mankind. At that point they would be indistinguishable from “real” consciousness, in fact at that level of intelligence it would be humans that could be considered obsolete and non sentient. Until that point tests and stuff could be done to determine whether they are “pretending” or not, but once they surpass the collective intelligence of mankind then their “pretending” would be indentical to reality as far as we are concerned
@TR8R, interesting. No doubt about their intelligence surpassing ours. But consciousness? I guess we'll see!
@Uranusisbig, that’s the thing though. Who are we to determine whether an entity with an intelligence greater than our entire species is conscious or not? Our definition of sentient would have no bearing on something we could never comprehend. It’s kinda scary to think about actually
Confirmed tweet is real and possibly comment is real, too. Too many to go through and it’s RE2 time.