I always hated the,"Because he's Batman," excuse. Sure he's extremely intelligent and talented and a great hero but he's human. If literally anyone from the League or the Avengers (besides humans) wanted to kill him, he wouldn't last 1 second. And that's what makes him a great character. He's vulnerable and human and I hate that the fandom has deified him to the point where they genuinely think he could beat people like Superman, the Hulk, Thor, or even Lucifer Morningstar
@The Landshark , but he has. It would be like Iron Man going against the Hulk. All he need is the Juggernaut suit. Which he can build.
@TheIbarra, I'm putting it like this: let's say Batman became evil (Batman who Laughs). Realistically, Superman would have put him down within a heartbeat
@The Landshark , the point you're forgetting is he's Batman
@18bluecat, my goodness, why didn't I think of that!
@The Landshark , also, Dark Knights Metal shows how deadly Batman can truly be.
If given enough prep time, he is formidable.
@DyingSuns, formidable yes, not unstoppable. I loved Dark Knights Metal but I don't like how he's claimed to be untouchable. Yeah contingency plans and everything but, in this situation, he couldn't beat Thor in his wildest dreams
@The Landshark , I completely agree with you. But I do think the cheap “because he’s Batman” excuse does have a little bit of merit to it. Not to the extent that fanboys use it, but still. Batman really is that good at planning and predicting what his opponent is thinking. Remember JLA: Tower of Babel? He can pinpoint an enemy’s weakness and exploit it with such tenacity and accuracy that he can win fights that no mortal has any business winning. That being said, he’s far from unstoppable. I think the Batman vs Thor fight would last longer that any of us would expect; but Thor would obviously win.
@Gatsby, while you're right, Batman is incredible, the Tower of Babel event only incapacitated them momentarily and there's only so much you can prep for. The Thor v Batman: Dawn of Rubber Suit match would last longer than expected, yes, but he'd have no hopes of beating him, just like any other godlike being if they really tried fighting him
@The Landshark , I feel like if batman was given advanced notice about the fight and could do research on his opponents he could win against a lot of them. However if you just throw them into a ring and say fight to the death and they both do, he’d lose a lot of them. Part of his whole character is that he studies his opponent and outsmarts then. If he knew he was fighting superman he’d bring kryptonite but in a straight up death match he’d have nothing he’d be able to do.
@The Landshark , but can he beat a latino mom with her infinity chancla?
@meeeh, nah he'd get beaten for staying up past his bedtime wearing silly costumes
@The Landshark , but dude he’s the batman
@The Landshark , he has the skills and tactics to beat almost anyone in theory but that doesn’t mean it will always work if he could win 1 outta 10 then it’s justified saying he could win but I agree with u he’d probably lose against most of them
@The Landshark , it’s fiction, the writers decide who wins these fights, but to say that Batman couldn’t beat Superman etc in fight is unrealistic is well... silly, it’s all unrealistic, that’s kind of the point.
@18bluecat, just like Saitama. Who I believe is the only person who could kill Batman, but wouldn’t! Because he’s Batman.
Depends on how long Bats has to prep. That’s where is strengths really shine. Sure he’s human, but that means he’s had to learn to deal with people like Superman. Given enough prep time, he’s put Thor in his place.
Now if it was just, they’re randomly ported to an arena, then Thor would smash Batman.
@nightweaver, I feel like there would definitely be cases where you can't prepare enough, how would you be able to prepare for the God of thunder?
@InsaneWorm, lightning rods in his bat ears down to his boots, for one
@nightweaver, If they're not built well enough to take countless lightning strikes then they could overload, and if they are built well enough it would probably be cumbersome and restrict Batman's movement
@InsaneWorm, I’m sure Bruce Wayne will be able to afford to find a Wayne to make it work. Depending on the lightning, he could just make his suit more conductive than his body. He might cook a little, but he wouldn’t take direct damage from strikes. Based on ‘because science’ on why Thor can be tased.
@InsaneWorm, another way would be to have lightning rods around their fighting ground, or a rubber suit. Idk how Batman would deal with the rest of Thor's powers though
@nightweaver, ok, I guess, but that's kind of irrelevant, isnt it? I mean, what does Bruce Wayne have to do with Batman?
@InsaneWorm, it’s super easy to prepare for the god of thunder, the same way he preps for every other battle. Batman would just don his plot armor.
In the words of Stan lee: “whoever the writer wants to win”
Here’s a more realistic one. Batman vs. Captain America
@The Poll Man, been done. DC versus Marvel, circa 1995. Issue #2, if I remember correctly.
@Suicide Squad Sucks, yeah but those fights were based on fan votes iirc. A lot of the results were bullish!t. I mean wolverine beat Lobo. Fing LOBO. A guy who fights Superman for fun and was granted immortality because neither heaven nor hell wanted to deal with him.
@En Saba Nur, plus, we never got to see the actual fight, which is still a giant strain on the series...
I think Wolverine got the votes because of the XMen cartoon. People were more familiar with him. Kind of along the same lines that Spider-Man beat 90s Superboy (I was genuinely pissed about that one!)
Totally thought this was nite owl, not Batman. That would’ve been an even more pathetic fight.
Thor would beat Batman without even having to use his lightning thought
Batman is lame AF
As long as Thor goes for the head he should win.
Depends if you consider God of Knowledge Batman to be canon
That depends of Batman knows of Thors existence prior to the fight
Thor, everytime. Next question
Always have a plan to neutralize anyone you meet everyone’s a threat and always have a plan to stop them that’s Batman’s true strength given that if they are fighting Batman’s already had a chance to study him and he’s already figured out a way to take away Thor’s advantage