College is a waste today, expect for medical, and engineering degrees, just go to a trade school instead
@keegathy, graduated with a bachelor's in Civil engineering and took a 52,000 salary right out of the gate. It was worth it
@keegathy, doctors don't make nearly as much as they used to. Malpractice insurance is so high that most can't afford to open a private practice.
Unless you are a great surgeon. I broke my ankle about 10 years ago, and the guy that did the surgery does it for pro athletes and such. It only cost me my 500 dollar deductible, but when my insurance company sent me the breakdown, it would have cost me 17k
@keegathy, I went to college for five years and make a bunch of money doing something I didn’t have to go to school at all for. That’s what I call wasteful.
@TheTrumanShow, as I've told people, I've never had a job that required my degree BUT, I may have gotten my job over someone else because of my degree.
@keegathy, watch dr messer and take the comptia security + cert test and make 60k a year
@keegathy, yep, went to trade school for $4k and 500 hrs, made ~ $55/hr to start making my own schedule and being my own boss. I work 10 days a month by choice and enjoy a bunch of free time. Trades are awesome
@keegathy, engineering has paid off. I graduated 4.5 years ago. Since then, each year I've made 60k, 65k, 70k, 80k, and this year I'll do somewhere between 125 and 155. Its been a good year though next year will probably only be between 105 and 115k.
@keegathy, I mean I went for business and a year after I graduated I’m making 70,000 I’d say it’s pretty decent
@keegathy, this whole thread depresses my poor a$$ as much as college depressed my parents wallets for the ONE SEMESTER of community college....
@UncommonSense, it's not too late to switch, you can walk into a trade knowing absolutely nothing, I had a decent background in carpentry when I entered, so that made it easier, but they go through everything in trade school, they'll even teach you how to swing a hammer properly, my schooling was paid for by training agents. And you come out making over 30 bucks an hr, and they set you up with companies. It's a great deal!
@keegathy, not even medical. Nurses make less than or equal to cops where I live and nursing is widely considered to be the hardest Bachelor degree to get, not to mention licensing and state tests, and the fact it’s an incredibly difficult job. All of that to barely earn more than a beat cop. “Worth” is relative.
@keegathy, “expect for medical” edit that to “except”... didn’t do “collage” I understood that I’d never use it myself so I saved myself from debt ... don’t need it to make some 70k a year here
@Not him again, healthcare in the US is broken. On so many levels. I'm Canadian, my sister is a practicing doctor in the US, and both of us agree it's pretty broken, from a lot of different perspectives. I don't even have solutions, I just know it's broken.
@Captain Magma, oof. Gotta go for grad school to get good money out of college if you're civil
@keegathy, IT is useful
@LowKeyImGay, do you mean that it is indeed useful, or do you mean I T is useful, cause I will agree I T is useful
@keegathy, medical schools are worse. My friend is literally taking out 70k a year in loans for everything on top of undergrad debt. She wont be moving out of an apartment until shes like 50
@Captain Magma, after 6 months working at a salary of 54,540 a year I moved to a position that pays 98,000 a year, High school diploma with military experience. My sister makes 80k after getting her Masters. My friend trumps us both at 110 working for the railroad under the union. It's only a waste if not used correctly. Just seems most people are wasting their time nowadays. Fallowing the demand works better than getting a degree just to squander it though.
@keegathy, yeah, I was planning on heading over to an agency soon. I just don’t have much work experience because of my anxiety, doing “hands on” work is difficult. Don’t really trust myself to not do something stupid and get hurt...
@DoucheMcbaggins, What trade is it?
@Link Silverblade, dog grooming. With a lot of brand building and specialization in special needs and senior pets, we have phenomenal clients who are like friends we see every month. We launched in the recession and it took a lot to get here, but in the long run paid off both financially and in personal fulfillment
@keegathy, no qualifications, making 67000 salary at a supermarket. I agree mate
@Niam Leeson, my wife is a nurse, she makes good money. Cops salaries aren’t as low as you think, plus the benefits can’t be beat.
@UncommonSense, one semester of community? I’m in community now, and it’s only ~$600 a quarter (and I took 26.5 credits last quarter)
@Tsaltydog, I wanna work where you work
@DoucheMcbaggins, what is your trade?
@Azyoulikeit, this is def true for me. AS in env science. Got a job as a welder.
@keegathy, I'm in my job today because of my chemistry degree. Anything requiring extensive math or science will benefit from a degree.
@rezd, Dog grooming. I asked the same question.
@Cpzombie, it was $1800 for 3 classes and tuition, not including purchasing mandatory books
@UncommonSense, ouch! Is your state just really expensive or something? I’m in California, and that sounds more like state 4 year prices than community
@Cpzombie, PA. California is more progressive, so they’d lower the cost of that
Contractor I worked for paid for my welding school. $35 an hour now with no college degree, not to shabby.
@ericthegreat, my step dad is a contractor he says theres almost no upward mobility because the positions are so comfortable to leave so you basically have to wait for someone to die.
@Runnin with scissors, it's all about who you know
@Runnin with scissors, apparently it's gonna be a problem later on given the average age of welders is like 55 or something ridiculous, and not many new ppl going into the field
@ericthegreat, I mean ya but there are only ever so many positions if one never opens then a promotion doesnt happen. Sure you might be the first up for one because of a recommendation but still gonna have to wait. I mean my step dad is like the highest up guy so hes set but hes said it before hes not quitting anytime soon and hes 58
@RomeoStealYoGurl, true but we are also becoming much more automated causing a reduction in pay and available jobs. Still gonna be interesting most trade jobs in the US are having shortages of employees and is why they are getting payed close to or equal to a college grad.
People don't seem to understand that they want the degree for an entry level job so that the employer hopes that they can move you up. It's less of a turnover rate and a higher chance to promote from within.
You know, I’m currently in community college for comp sci and have been looking around game companies and such to try and get a starting point. Lately I found one with an open position that didn’t require a degree but knowledge of coding and game engines. I feel I may actually get a chance here. If not well then I’ll keep applying elsewhere.
I go to community college just so my grandparents feel like I'm "doing something with my life" while I become a professional grower, so atleast it's a good cover up.
“Willing to work some” WHAT KIND OF GODDAMM SLAVE TRADE IS THIS?!
Bear in mind, that’s the MINIMUM salary, it goes up from there according to seniority and achievement. Can’t start at the top kids.
You know, the cost of living is different from state to state. This might be a job in the middle of Nowhere, Nebraska for all we know
@Not him again, I live in the Midwest. That’s still shjt pay. Especially for someone with a masters degree.
@Raki Zaki, I live in stl, and I agree. But nowadays its switched from schooling to experience. I make wake way more than that and I never even finished my associates
It does say preferred and minimum so...
@Available Username, I worked a minimum wage job that required you to have a specific college diploma. And then they wondered why they had such a high turn over rate
HA! trade school co-op little experience no school (yet, part of the requirement) and $17/h. More once schools over after 2 years with only 8 grand owe'd. Eat that ivy league!
Never went to college, cleared 98k take home last year... fvck college!
UNF (North Florida) when I went was $100/hr credit. 130 credits is $13,000 over 4 years or more. The problem is that people put rent on their loans too. I had a job to pay for that stuff.
Honestly, with the way that schools hand out masters nowadays, I am not surprised.
Join the military kids. Especially if you're unsure what to do after school.
Could be a masters of gender studies.
It says preferred not required.