I hate tipping culture.
For instances where I am simply picking up my food, why would I tip? There was no service. I paid for food and I got food, why would I be obligated to tip? At that point I’m just paying extra for my food, which I just avoided by using Honey.
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@RMB, I'm a pretty damn generous tipper, but I agree. If I'm picking it up from the counter while I'm paying for the actual shjt, there's no reason why I should tip
@Not him again, same. I tip very generously. Like when the pizza delivery driver is early. But if I go to the pizzeria to get it, no tip, i drove.
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@Sr5turbo, i typically dont tip at all if i go in and order but will do 10% once in a blue moon if i go there regularly, 10% on deliveries (cuz its just dropping it off), and 15-20% on dine-in cuz then the server is catering to my @ass and they still gotta tip-out to the kitchen and bartender
They should make you type in a reason that the cashier has to address before submitting. I’d say something like, “I could barely afford this meal and you literally did nothing besides ring me up so you’re not getting a tip.”
@ImNotRacistBut, or, how I think tipping is supposed to be “I paid for the meal/services advertised, and did not receive any extra or special service than what I was expected to pay for.”
I have a simple rule, if I pay before my meal, no tip.
@Azyoulikeit, word up. If you haven't provided me good food or service yet, why do you deserve extra up front?
People always say that waiters and waitresses only have tips to look forward to at their job and that’s how they make their money. Do they not receive biweekly checks?
@whatthefrank, they do but they usually get paid way under minimum wage. Depending on the restaurant they could get paid as low as $2.50. There are also places that pay decent but usually it's under minimum wage.
@Lord of Sloths, why under? Either start a union or get a better job, right?
@Lord of Sloths, maybe it’s just because I’ve been out of the foodservice industry for too long (thank god for that), but I thought the law in most states was that ~$2.50 they got was in addition to the tips they get as long as the $2.50 + tips comes out to at least minimum wage. I thought, at least in Kentucky where I worked as a server once, on slow weeks where the $2.50/hr + tips WASNT coming to at least minimum wage, the restaurant compensated to meet minimum wage. I’m too lazy to research since I got out of that shjtty entry-field industry long ago.
@whatthefrank, the position has a huge turn over and except for the high end restaurants does not require a lot of training. Employers would just replace employees that try to unionize. Most waiters are young and generally work there because hours are flexible for their school. On the other side if your older and do not have other skills it's a very easy job to pick up and keep. Most do eventually leave for better jobs but in the meantime the pay is crap unless you get tips.
@Lord of Sloths, actually, the curiosity bug bit me after posting my last comment. The above scenario is EXACTLY what I described. So as a customer, at least in Kentucky, there’s no reason to tip unless a server goes above and beyond the expected service.
@WhoseLineIsItAnyway, I did not know that, kinda invalidates everything I've ever been told lol. Seems the same is true in Delaware
@Lord of Sloths, yep. Reading about all this through the laws now makes me realize to never tip again at a restaurant unless said server does indeed go above and beyond.
@whatthefrank, At least here in SC, most companies pay $2.13 and hour. I do work at a place where if, for instance I worked 40 hours a week, and didn't have enough tips to add up to minimum wage, I would see an increase in my biweekly paycheck. However, most places around me even working 40 hours a week is not enough money to live off of. The main thing about working this industry is when people come out to eat and expect extraordinary things; free items, treating me like a Butler or sometimes like a maid, asking for 100 different things all at different times (check table, grab ketchup, then they need salt, etc etc when they could have asked for everything in the beginning), complaining about things that are way out of my control (food that I'm not currently cooking or involved with or specialty bar drinks that I'm not making), complaining about the price of food/drinks, or just being shi#y people and having a terrible attitude.
@Classic Rambo, Not to mention the people who come in 10 minutes before we close with their children who then proceed to come up with an excuse as to why they can't tip on their $120 bill and they completely wreck my section and bathrooms of the restaurant. Even as they are paying for their bill with $100 bills and expect exact, and I mean to the penny exact, change. After they've been there for over an hour. Or just not having the understanding of why they can't expect me to wait on them hand and foot while I have 7 other tables including a 15 person party. Some people just don't understand trying to offer a service to the public. I can usually pick out people that have had service industry jobs by their attitude and demeanor. Just my 2 cents though.
@Classic Rambo, oh also I don't receive a paycheck because what little money I did earn through my hourly, all my tips and hours are taxed and taxes are taken out of my "paycheck" or I end up owing the IRS for "income taxes".
@Classic Rambo, but what I don’t understand is why is it okay for servers to make less than minimum wage under terrible conditions? How is this legal? And how is it our fault that they have to go through these things?
@whatthefrank, If I'm not mistaken it's a loophole law from years ago. The minimum wage laws passed a few years ago actually forced companies paying tipped employees less to make it up at least minimum wage. Also some businesses have automatic gratuity so they can get away with having labor that doesn't cost hardly anything. I'm not blaming any of my customers, it's just kinda customary to tip 15 percent for good service, and any thing beyond that would be for going above and extraordinary service. One of my biggest things I've learned though, is every customer has different criteria as to what above and beyond good service is. Honestly I really just get annoyed with people who go out of their way to make my job harder (see examples above) or just a terrible attitude in general. It's not like I forced you to eat the most expensive thing on the menu, nor did I force you to drink shots that run $8 a piece. And now you have an outrageous tab.
As a Canadian tipping culture here is absurd. Food service employees all receive standard minimum wage plus their tips. At the hotel I work at the waiters and waitresses make about $25-$30 an hour with their tips. Department managers make about $20 an hour. If service is bad here I'm not tipping.
@Squirtlesgirdle, it used to be that way in the US too. But greedy restaurant owners got wise as to how they can save a buck.
Just the Tip.
@av8r, Steal the food?
If they weren't dicks, the food was good and you had money to go out in the first place, throw em the biggest tip you can without seeming weird. Cmon.
@what is this im 12, When I'm at a restaurant, I generally tip at least 25%, and then usually throw some on top of that and round up to the dollar amount. Food service jobs suck. I like making them suck a little less. It would have to be truly atrocious service for me to not tip.
@Neil Dylandy, servers are an extremely well paid profession because of thoughts like this. It requires no skills and no education but you can support a livelihood at it. The servers I know make between $45k-$60k on average AND they don't report their cash tips. It took me 6 years out of college to finally start making more than a waiter. Food service Jobs are not that bad. You always see them driving nicer cars than me and doing expensive drugs around here in Dallas.
It's a minimum wage job, I think they should make minimum wage. (Don't give me the server wage bs either, if they don't make at least minimum wage with their tips and hourly, the restaurant must pay them the difference)
I DO tip. But 25% is fu¢king nuts.
@Iswearimfunny, believe it or not there are skills and training involved to make a great server. If you're a bartender, knowing your drink menu, how to pour liquor and beer correctly, have a good grasp on being able to communicate with customers, knowing what food you're selling / on the server side, knowing what's on your menu, having a good knowledge base about the computer system, how and what to modify per customer requests, the ability to communicate with customers, how to setup food and working with the cooks and keeping a giant smile on your face. For both, being able to handle an irate customer and not lose your temper or constitution. It's fairly more involved than most people realize. (at least in actual dine-in restaurants, not as much in fast food.)
@Iswearimfunny, also have you ever tried to support yourself with just minimum wage? Most places it's extremely difficult unless you're not paying for rent or food. Fully supporting just one person on minimum wage is hard, let alone if you have a family your trying to provide for. Not everyone has the same opportunities or a good family support system to back them to get higher education or better jobs. Sometimes, you have to do what is necessary to keep the bare minimum of things to live.
If you asking for a tip, my tip for you is this. Bring an umbrella when it rains
Some people in these comments have never worked a service industry job before and it shows. “Tipping culture”? “You only rang me up”? You seriously don’t understand the difference between paying a restaurant for the food and tipping an employee because they made it? Just because I’m ringing you up doesn’t mean your tip is going to me. Most times it’s going to everyone. Whoever took your order, whoever made your order, and whoever rang you up. Tipping isn’t a “culture” it’s a necessity for a lot of hard workers and people like you who refuse to learn how it works are part of the reason why.
@wigginthegame, it shouldn't be a necessity. The job should be paying you a living wage. A tip should be a bonus for a job well done if the customer appreciates it, but because we know the servers aren't getting paid enough it falls on us to suppliment and it's ridiculous.
@18bluecat, You’re right. It shouldn’t be. The job should be paying a livable wage. But that’s not the system, and the servers getting screwed by that system aren’t the ones who are going to be able to change it. So yeah, the burden falls on the customers to supplement it. So they should if they have the means. And if you can’t afford a tip, you should be buying groceries instead of eating out.
@wigginthegame, If it's an actual restaurant then make sure you tip. However, if I'm going to a sandwich joint or a cafe and just order the food and had no actual service then I'm not tipping. I've worked food jobs that pay above minimum that still have tip options. I definitely don't need a tip for throwing some lunchmeat on bread.
@18bluecat, i agree with you 100%
@wigginthegame, I’ve worked both as a banquet server and as an employee at carls jr (same time actually) and I actually did more work at the fast food joint than I did as a server, but I didn’t make tips. I mean I cooked, cleaned, took orders, and served food at carls, as a banquet server all I did was refill drinks, bring food, and do the occasional sweep to make sure things were tidy. So I get the tipping game, and when I go to places with those fancy little tablets, get asked for a tip, and all I got was a drink made or a very basic food entree that I could make myself with ease of access to buy the ingredients, I’m not paying a tip. I’ve worked for my money and I damn well know they could close their eyes and half ass it
@arealwerewolf, See that's the thing though, if you could have done this all at home, then why not go to the grocery store and prepare your own food? Even as just a "server", there are plenty of times I'm cleaning, cooking, or one of the other eight jobs that need to get done. And most of those times I'm not getting tipped. Behind the scenes of what you think of me just standing there waiting to refill drinks or take orders, I'm actually doing a fair amount of work. Or when I have 60 people to take care of at one time. People who don't tip are wasting my time and space in my section when they could have just stayed home and cooked or just got Togo food. You're not just paying for the food, you're typing the employee for keeping your drinks refilled, the atmosphere of the restaurant, making sure your food is correct and made in a timely manner, or making sure you have a great time while you're out. All you have to do is sit back and relax (if you have a good server).
@18bluecat, yes! And meanwhile the restaurant owners are walking with bank, letting their customs pay their employees!
Dont know why yall are acting like picking up food needs a tip no one expects that. If they make you a drink or served you food to a table, tip. They're probably making less than minimum wage. Other than that no obligation
@spelcheck , but how is that our fault that they make less than minimum wage?
@whatthefrank, it sucks but that's how it works, it's the laws fault. Same reason you have to pay taxes. You know they make less than minimum wage and if you refuse to tip than you're denying them minimum wage. If they make $7.25 instead of $3-$5 your meal would be $9 instead of $7 because the labor cost for the restaurant would go up. I'm not fighting for our tip culture I just shared my opinion on how to deal with it
I tip pretty much all the time. Pretty much because I have this one tragic memory that my sister gave me money to give pizza guy when he arrived when I was young. And I only paid for the bill without tipping, even though my sis already counted tip in what she gave me. So I felt terrible afterwards because I felt like there was something awkward about the interaction when the guy dropped it off. And we life in a the woods with a lot of navigation needed by delivery people. Truly one of my cringest memories to me... But yeah I don't tip much if I pick up food.