I think people should stop being offended by things they were not alive to experience and are no longer affected by due to living in a first world country and having their own legal system and more money than they can burn through the casino laws.
@CUNTSOAP, Columbus isn't as great as some people hold him to, he also wasn't the idiot monster some people make him out to be
*hit send accidently can't edit comments for some reason* but I don't think he changed the modern world by discovering the new world, and honestly Im not sure if it was a good thing or not. Obviously a lot of indigenous people got wiped out, either by disease, or invasion. At the same time it gave birth to a new form of government that was much better than the monarchies they had all over Europe. I'm not saying the north american governments are perfect, far from it, but it's a step in the right direction. So all that being said, Columbus had a huge impact on our modern world, so yeah let him keep the holiday
@Duncan5769, you take that back. There’s no middle ground on the internet. You either think he’s a genocidal maniac or the second coming of Jesus
@BigJohnson86, haha while I'm at it, I also don't think the left or the right are good, and I find them equally abhorrent. I couldn't have cared less if Hillary or Trump won.
PS: I meant "I do*** think the changed the modern world"😳
@CUNTSOAP, idk man, i think we’re allowed to judge pasts we didnt live through. i mean, we hate the nazis and i wasnt alive in the 40s. i think the “lens of history” thing is completely valid, but i think columbus was pretty bad even by the standards of the 1400s.
@Hoban Washburne, Well... german reparation payments ended for WW2 92 years after. Kinda around the time everyone who experienced it was dead...
@Hoban Washburne, Im not going to hate on current germans for stuff they werent alive for at the time. The nazi were terrible and did terrible things. They also arent alive anymore.
@Duncan5769, I agree. We cant keep destroying history we dont like because it offends us. History happened remember it so you dont repeat it. Dont go blotting it out or blaming the descendants.
Neil Degrasse Tyson stated yesterday that Columbus discovering the American continent is probably one of the most important events in civilization history since it reunited the world.
I'm more inclined to agree with black science man over those who want to blame Columbus for all the bad stuff that was ushered in by him.
@Throttlesky, Imma need citation. At least on his Twitter all I see is him saying “well the ISS took 15 minutes not 3 months” (which wasn’t 3 months for Columbus it was 10 weeks or so) and another tweet that’s just another one of those “Columbus was evil” tweets. Though I see one guy in the replies to his first tweet about the ISS mentioning how Columbus reconnected the human race.
@TheRatMan, Ben Shapiro Podcast. Just posted yesterday.
@Throttlesky, Columbus also did bad stuff himself. I tend to agree with you that what he did has a historical impact that goes virtually unparalleled in hindsight, but the dude was kinda awful himself. I would be ok with changing the name to Discovery day but even then other civilizations had found the new world before Columbus and the spanish so it honestly doesn’t matter that much to me.
@Throttlesky, he also had this to say: Want another reason to dislike Columbus? Before returning on his fourth voyage to the New World, he knew of an impending lunar eclipse and threatened to make the Full Moon disappear if the local natives didn’t give him their hard-earned food stocks for his voyage back to Spain.
@The nOly One, It’s true, the overall historical impact of colonizing the US is undeniable, and the modern world would otherwise be utterly unrecognizable had things not happened exactly as they did, as with virtually every other significant event in history. Neither good nor bad really apply, if you think about it. Just like how WWII technically helped lift us out of the Great Depression.
The reason there’s so much spite toward Columbus Day is because it highlights how we regurgitate history in young minds and cling to this ridiculous lie about Columbus coming over and making nice with the pilgrims, and our youth don’t learn the truth until much later, after they’ve already been indoctrinated with this unflappable “patriotism” that encourages them to never question their country. It’s a recipe for complacency, and exactly the kind of dynamic that promotes the divisiveness that’s become so prevalent in our society today.
@Berntley, I mean, the pilgrims and Columbus are two separate stories. I think it is important to teach anyone the truth about history, including Columbus. I think public schools do a terrible job at educating just how awful America was to the natives in general, to the point even the trail of tears most Americans wouldn’t believe it was all that bad. That being said its also important to recognize that we can’t change the past but we can learn from it and be better in the present and future
@The nOly One, well in Canadian schools, we have Canadian History class (probably one of the most boring histories on the planet) but they made it really clear that we did damage when we came here. They taught us about the diseases we spread, and the tribes we wiped out. However I don't know if I just had a teacher that went the extra mile, or if it's part of the ciriculam
And I lay back in my recliner at home since I'm a government employee and have off for the official federal holiday of, "Columbus Day".
I'm just enjoying Thanksgiving🇨🇦
@TheDoctorsTARDIS, Always for stuck at the Rainbow Falls crossing. Enjoying a Labatt, eh?
It's Rodrigo day!