This has always been a serious question of mine tbh. Idk the answer, but it's interesting to think about
@Sivls, I’ve always thought this about colors
@FPVeteranWolf, it is pretty obvious that humans dont see drastically different things.
Colors have more description that their name.
Warm colors, cool colors, bright, dull, vibrant, etc.
There are also many languages that group them in ways which, while different, make sense.
This would only work if we all saw similar colors.
Factor in biology and physics (rods/cones as well as electromagnetic spectrum) and the idea that people experience wildly different color spectrums diminishes.
Obviously, small differences are not only expected, but documented (women see more than men on average and color blind people exist).
@Majesticmoose00, Just a counterpoint to how you describe colours as warm/cold. If every instance of blue in your life was switched with yellow, you'd think blue was a warm colour and yellow cold, and that would make a lot of sense since ice would be yellow and the sun would be blue.
@FPVeteranWolf, describe blue without using the word or something that we use blue to describe (so no sky, ocean, etc.)
@Majesticmoose00, kinda the same point that @CJWJ made, but the only reason we associate certain colors with those feelings is because of our society and culture. It's also been documented that certain cultures have completely different perspectives on certain colors (white being a color of evil and death instead of black, or red as being cool and calming instead of blue). The same has also been documented with sounds, mostly music. Where certain tones sound in tune to most people, they sound completely horrid to others, again just because we were raised being told those noises sound good. No matter which way you look at it, there's just to much bias either way to really tell if the blue I see is the same as the blue you see.
@CJWJ, but then bright, dark etc wouldn't apply.
Again, colors have multiple traits. If people saw them differently, you would have to assume ALL the traits were opposites (all darks were bright, warms are cool, etc. In this case there could only be 2 possibilities for vision because the variation would come up as people talk about color.
In such a case we would expect to find evidence of the 2 variations. Without evidence, then there is no reason to think it to be the case.
@unknownjanitor, are you putting forth a situation where you see all colors different, some colors different, one color different?
Depending on which one you are putting forth, yeah, I can show you how we would figure it out.
@Majesticmoose00, while people might see different colours, I think bright and dark are pretty universal, although I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. Bright and dark colours don't always mean warm or cold, and there could be more than 2 variations, such as red to you could be purple or green or blue to me, there's no way of knowing. Also, what kind of evidence would you expect to find? If all darks were bright, dark colours would appear bright but they'd know them as dark, so they'd have no way to communicate to you that it's not the same as what you see.
@Majesticmoose00, what can be agreed on is we are all being stimulated by the same frequency. Light and dark are the intensity of that frequency. What we can agree on is what our brains hallucinate as a representation of the observed frequency. Also note that there are creatures with less and also more photo receptors. A dog doesn't see black and white, it sees a gamut of yellow and blue. There is a shrimp with 18 I believe. Who knows what they see. Some humans, women only, can have a fourth photo receptor. It is unknown what that would look like because it's rare and can't be described.
@Verzaad, correct. The debate is not about whether people see slightly different things. As I originally said. This is expected and documented.
Me point is that wildly different perspectives is not supported by any sort of evidence.
If someone thinks we see drastically different things (like the comic suggests) they have not considered very much evidence.
If you would like to give an example of someone seeing differences, I can describe exactly how we could go about testing for such a visual discrepancy.
I teach middle school and this comes up often.
Depending of the viewpoint of the questioner, it only takes a few minutes to show why the idea doesn't fit reality. But I need to know what the question is before I can answer it.
Do you have a question about how wide a discrepancy vision has among people, or do you think it is only insignificant variation?
@Sivls, I thought I was weird for thinking like this
@FPVeteranWolf, I’ve always thought I was the only person who thought about this. Collective consciousness never ceases to surprise me
@FPVeteranWolf, same. Difficult to put the question into words though
@Sivls, I mean, who's to say we aren't simply the dream of some other being? How could we ever know with certainty that isn't the case?
It's too big. If I'm a figment, I wanna be a happy figment. The possibility exists, sure, but I choose to believe something else. After all, if this is all just a dream that another being could simply wake from, why stress out about it?
It really is about choice. Inform yourself as best as you can about the consequences of different actions, decide which outcomes you want, and then act. As for me, I choose lasting happiness, whatever the cost.
We know that we see the world roughly the same as each other because we have outside information to compare. Likely we just see the same things in slightly different colours. It’s possible to permanently colour shift your own vision if you get certain kinds of damage to your eyes.
When I was a kid, I’d sometimes shine a flashlight directly into my left eye (don’t ask me why, I’ve no recollection of any ‘reasoning’ going into it) and trying to keep my eye open. I did it too often and now everything is permanently a couple of shades darker on one side for me.
I’m really glad to find out i’m not alone in this.
It's entirely possible that we all see different colours, but those we consider colour-blind just see it in a different order of dark to light on the colour prism
No. I’m too baked for this.