I took a Disasters in American History class last semester. It was mostly about diseases and was basically a course on why you should never live in New York.
I mean we’re handling it better than most of the world but please keep talking while we fund you and protect you with our army
@dr brain, it's a fair criticism though. If there was a textbook on how to handle the current crisis I don't think handling it the way the US did in the beginning would be included
@dr brain, the US is handling it state by state, thats why New York is a wasteland and Ohio is keeping up with itself
@dr brain, don’t forget they also need to keep listening to the mainstream media over-hype it, use footage from other countries to fear monger, and take certain stories out of context just to make orange man look bad.
@PacificaPelican, If some dumbass chink never ate a raw bat we wouldn't be in this situation. China handled the beginning poorly and fuxed us
@dr brain, yes thank god for the US army
@PacificaPelican, we stopped travel to and from China before anyone else and we stopped travel to Europe once Italy began to look ugly
@PacificaPelican, a text book on a virus that has never existed? Please write it, the world will thank you. The irony of course is that the university of Hong Kong wrote a paper in 2007 warning that the presence of Sars Covid virus in horse shoe bats along with the southern Chinese culture of eating exotic animals was a ticking time bomb.
@Medic135, I mean, Ohio was a wasteland beforehand so it's not like it was going to get much worse
@dr brain, uhhh, I mean compared to some countries sure we've done pretty darn good, but compared to places like South Korea we've seriously mismanaged this with a combination of lack of supplies, lack of information to our citizens, and most importantly the unwillingness to take it seriously until it was so bad we had to shut down most of the country.
@Nudity Industries, at least were not scavenging for medical equipment and making panic decisions with the national guard
@dr brain, Nah, you’re doing it as badly as the rest of us.
It’s a plague. None of us have any expertise in managing this - literally everyone is doing different things, or doing the same thing but at different times, and there’s no way we’ll know what was the right thing until about 18 months after it’s all over and the boffins have been over all the data.
But I can guarantee you one thing - your government did something wrong. So did mine. And theirs. And that one over there. Hindsight is great, and being on the Opposition benches means you get to sit there and criticise without ever having to test if your ‘plan’ was better, but all of them will have gotten something wrong. But as none of us have ever had to deal with a plague before, that’s no surprise.
@PacificaPelican, and please show me a country who has been handling it in a textbook manner.
@dr brain, ok, we'll be waiting for will smith and the autobots to come and rescue our country.. thanks USA lol
@batdogsowner, South Korea put trackers on their citizens that alerted other people when someone who may be infected is near. That would never fly in the US because we wouldn't agree to being tracked literally all the time. South Korea did do it better but their way wouldn't work here.
@RogueKnight, I really don't know man. That wasn't the point of my comment. If you think that the US having the strongest military or being the police of the world makes us immune to criticism then that is just a harmful nationalistic way to look at things
@Medic135, Population density might also be a factor. New York has 9 of the top 10 most densely populated Incorporated areas in the USA (LA sneaks one in at #9) - up to 57,000 people per square mile. Ohio has one area with a density of over 10,000/sq mile - Lakewood in Cleveland makes #125 on the list.
So NY would have a huge number of international travellers bringing the virus in to a densely populated area where it can spread easily. Ohio, less so.
Not saying that’s the only reason, but it would definitely make NY more susceptible to rapidly spreading a virus.
@Nellybert , well said. I don’t care if people vote left right or not at all. Now is the time to pull together, not apart.
@Nellybert , that is most likely a factor, also our overwhelming abundance of corn
@MinkeyObama , if the US doesn't come out of this steaming mad at China, I have no hope, we are no longer the super power we once were
@dr brain, how exactly are we handling this better than most of the world? Im not saying other countries are handling better, but the US isn’t exactly doing that great.
-we’re on the verge of an economic collapse
-unemployment is rising quickly
-we have the second highest number cases, behind only China and it’s still growing very rapidly
-We still have very little tests available
And I don’t want to turn this into a Trump argument, but at the beginning of all this he really downplayed the coronavirus. He called it a democratic hoax and claimed numerous times that it was no big deal, and that the cases in the US would drop to zero within the first couple weeks of March. We had two examples to learn from (Italy and China) to see how bad it could be, yet Trump acted like it was nothing to worry about.
On top of all that, the Trump Administration fired the U.S pandemic reponse team in 2018 to cut costs and then never replaced them.
@K1l, dont compare total cases.. also dont believe China numbers..
But if you look at both cases and deaths per million, the us is a lot lower than major 1st world nations.
@K1l, the entire world is having an economic collapse. We’ll most likely go back to the boom we he prior to this. All of the experts including the Faucci and the WHO said this shouldnt be an issues early on. Trump stopped travel to other countries early on. And if you look at the per capita of infections and death rate, only south korea has better numbers than us and they took everyones privacy away. He didnt fire the pandemic response team. The team was reduced back to its original size after it ran out of its extra funds from other government groups. Lastly we are leading the world with creating new tests. We created a 5 minute test and a few days later created a 2 minute test. The main thing we couldve done better was removed the red tape from the cdc earlier since thats what held back the private sector from making tests
@K1l, He did try to get rid of the pandemic response team, but Congress blocked him. He stopped travel to China while the media called him a racist for it. He called the media's way of covering it a hoax then they took that and said he called the entire virus a hoax. Trump isn't the problem, the media is.
@MinkeyObama , that’s what they want you to think...
What if China engineered the virus and had a vaccine developed before the outbreak? All they had to do was let it spread in their country for a few months before the outbreak and told no one so it looks like they didn’t know either...now China has more and more cured people every single day.
Coincidence? I think not.
Now all they have to do is play the waiting game and attack when the rest of the world is weak with the weapon, er I mean virus.
tl;dr I have too much free time
@Medic135, Just don’t follow the Nebraska strategy of sacrificing all the adults to the god in the cornfield.
@K1l, “I don’t want to turn this into a Trump argument” - proceeds to use biased out of context quotes to turn it into a Trump argument.
@Nellybert , I mean that's fine. And if our president ever took responsibility for anything that's how it'd be seen. But instead he's up there blaming the Obama admin and literally saying the words "I take no responsibility" he's never shown himself to be a leader. Never will.
@big freedom, you don't even need out of context quotes. He's an idiot in full speeches.
@Captain Magma, then our president has a gross misunderstanding of what the word hoax means.
@hollow114, I’m not a fan of Trump (as an individual, not really up on the details of his policies etc), but I was really discussing governments as entities - all the advisors/Cabinet Members/representatives etc - rather than focusing on individuals in that point.
@Captain Magma, Also, because I’d give it 24 hours before the first news reports came through of rednecks riding around in pickups and hunting infected people down.
So here is the thing. In a crisis such as this, there will be casualties and missteps. There is no such thing as a textbook or perfect response. Partially because humans are making the decisions and humans aren't perfect and partially because it's a fluild situation to which any response is reactionary.
Look at any nations response to this and there will not be one perfect, "textbook" response.
Maybe don’t judge my country based on our current leader? Idk
While it's good and even healthy to exercise freedom of speech and criticise government, I think it's strange that no one ever wants to leave. Also, when comparing us to other countries, it's always the small, rich, white, countries that are so much better. Never the ones that have similar population levels like Pakistan. Norway has a better social welfare system? Of course, it has 325 million less mouths to feed. Finland has lower hate crime rates? Of course, 99% of the country is white. We are NEVER compared to the eastern European countries, where life isn't that great. Only the small, white, bicycle riding, pot smoking, daisy chain making fantasy countries.
Hey, make fun of us all you want, were the ones who are going to fight off the alien invasion come June
And then you have the moron on a ventilator who licked a toilet seat to complete the corona challenge.