This is why I always do carry out. Because I don’t want to tip a delivery driver. Why tip someone when I can just do it myself and save money?
@TheKnightsWhoSayNi, live outside the USA where tipping is not needed.
@TheKnightsWhoSayNi, I would love to do carry out and save the extra money, hell I wouldn’t even use doordash or Ubereats. But I live in an apartment complex with limited parking that everyone fights for so we don’t have to park at the bottom on this big ass hill.
@hasher2288, sometimes I wish.
@TriangleTesticles, "tippingᵀᴹ: because we're too sh¡tty to pay a decent amount to our most basic work force!"
Can relate 😔
Maybe it's because you're only tipping 3 dollars on a 23 dollar bil
Edit: l don't understand why I'm getting so many downvotes for this. a person is literally driving their vehicle to bring your lazy ass food. Fvcking millennials. Complain about low wages, and yet tip like shjt for the people doing 95 percent of your job for you
@Not him again, tipping by percentage is bullsh¡t. I'm getting the same service whether I order $20 worth of food or $100 worth of food. I especially hate places that don't even have wait service that ask for a tip upfront when you pay before sitting down, like I'm not going to tip a cashier for how well they take my money, but I'll tip someone if they take care of me or provide an extra service
@Not him again, although, granted, $3 is also bullsh¡t, at least $5 for delivery
@Janky McSkanky, tf place asks you for a tip before you even order?? I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm genuinely curious, because I've never been to a place that does that
@Janky McSkanky, I dunno, maybe it's because I made a lot with tips during high school, and went through the obnoxious process for someone who works for tips, so I always give at least 30 percent, unless the service is just awful
@Janky McSkanky, you are not getting the same service whether you order $20 of food or $100 of food. It’s more food, more work to do, more things to remember. For some places that ask for tips ahead of time I’m sure the tips are split between the other workers not just the cashiers.
@Not him again, Chinese restaurants, tropical grille, etc. When you order and pay upfront, they have a line designating a tip
@Janky McSkanky, really? None of the Chinese places I get food from ask for a tip. I don't know what Tropical Grille is, but if they do that, I don't want to
@Qdawug46, there is absolutely a difference between $20 of food and $100 of food IN THE RESTAURANT. Tipping a delivery driver 20% for $100 of food is absurd. I appreciate Uber drivers but, the only additional work involved is carrying an extra bag or 2. They don't check the order or have to remember shjt. You're getting the exact same service wether you order 1 meal or 4.
@Janky McSkanky, tipping is not an obligation, and America is the only country that does it.
@Proactive Citizenry , America is the only place that does it because we don’t incorporate tips into the cost of food and labor so everyone has to deal with the headache
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, I hate when I do a tip when I order and then the delivery person makes me walk outside to their car to get the food. Like no that’s not how this works, your literally job is to bring it to me. I wish I could just cancel the tip at that point. This has happened to me twice. Both times with door dash and different drivers so I don’t use them anymore
@Richard Cypher, idk about door dash but Uber let's you change the tip up to an hour after delivery
@Janky McSkanky, you just blow in from stupid town? You get $100 worth of food it seems to me thatd be at most 5 times more service than $20.... my restaurant the cooks get tip share too so if you get $100 worth of food and tip $5 you're a tool
@Qdawug46, you can tell how many people haven't ever worked for tips by how many times these kind of comments get downvoted. Some of yall need to work in a restaurant before you go around saying a 8% tip is good
@spelcheck , I literally bought one bag of food from door dash for about $90. I tipped 7 bucks. If this poor bastard has such a hard time driving food around, maybe he should find a better line of work. I may be from stupid town, but you're the mayor.
@Not him again, its not even ubiquitous. The problem, in my opinion, with tipping is that it forces the problem of determining the wage of a service provider partly on the customer. I dont tip a bus driver when i take public transportation. I dont tip a ups delivery person. That is because the cost is already included in the service fee. Why should i do the job of some lazy employer instead of simply paying a flat value for the service?
@Darth Panserbjorne, because you waitress or uber driver doesn't make 25 dollars an hour like a ups driver or a bus driver does. I used to bartend. Those kinds of people depend on tips. Its not a matter of the employer, its a matter that you are getting a service and you shouldn't be a cheap asshole for having it done for you
@Not him again, but thats my point. They should be payed more, and the cost of the service should just be increased. The increased wages should be included in the cost of the service. This way the service providers get more income security, and the customer doesnt have to do work that should be handled by the one paying their wages. I am by no means suggesting that we should be paying them less
@Darth Panserbjorne, or just don't be a selfish person and tip. What you are saying makes no sense. You want the prices to triple so that people like that are paid better, but aren't willing to just tip for a service being done for you? How about paying taxes, or health and life insurance? You are the epitome of the most ignorant kind of people
@Not him again, prices would not tripple, that is an egregious hyperbole. They would probably increase 15-20%. I never indicated that i dont, or am unwilling to tip. I was simply suggesting that it is not the best method to handle payment for services. I always tip. I sometimes tip half the bill if i have the money and think they deserve it. The rest of your response are simply unrelated ad hominem attacks that are not only poor argumentative form, but add no value to the discussion. I will humor you however. I pay taxes and health insurance without complaint. I have no need for life insurance. I disagree with universal healthcare. I admit my ignorance. Im not going to become an expert in economics or sociology to determine the best methods of handling tips to win some internet argument, and i doubt you are an expert either. Upon the reciept of a reasonable counter-argument, i would probably change my mind.
@Darth Panserbjorne, do you have any idea how expensive it is to run a restaurant? Most people that do and are successful at it is because they also own half the neighborhood and businesses surrounding it. But I agree with you on the universal heath care thing, but I don't understand why you think you don't need life insurance. I buried my mom last month, and it was about 20k for everything
@Not him again, ive signed up to be a whole body donor (donating to science) in the event of my death, have no dependents, and have made it clear that i do not wish for a ceremony for sociological reasons differing from the prior conversation.
@Not him again, are you suggesting that it would be unreasonable to simple raise the price of food in a resturant by 20%, and pay the workers a proportionate amount? It would be exactly like the current method of handling it but would be abstracted away from the customer, provide more income security, and prevent a disparity in job performance based on how large someone can tip.
@Darth Panserbjorne, to be clear. This is purely hypothetical. I highly doubt the usa will ever switch back to a non-tipping tradition like it was founded on for better or worse.
@Darth Panserbjorne, except thats not how it would work. Same concept of paying fast food workers 15 dollars an hour. The prices would go up exponentially, meanwhile education would drop, because why go to college when you can make 15/hr working at Burger King as a regular employee? You like that 5 dollar meal? Guess what, it's 15 dollars now, and you have to drive 10 miles to get it because all the franchise stores have closed
@Not him again, but they would receive an identical amount of pay to current standards whereas in fast food, they would receive more pay. Are you suggesting that transparancy on pay would make people complacent?
@Darth Panserbjorne, that's exactly what I'm saying. I worked hard to get where I am, and I'm not going to hire someone to stock shelves for 15 dollars an hour
@Not him again, but im not suggesting that you pay anyone more than they already make.
@Not him again, i respect your motivations for your perspective, and acknowledge that i may just be too naieve to understand the real implications. I however remain unconvinced so far
@Darth Panserbjorne, so for every new person I hire, they should automatically get paid as much as someone who has worked there for 10 years and has a lot more knowledge of things? I'm not sure what other convincing you want. Companies have to make money. I have 147 employees at my store, and the company has been more than greatful with helping their people out during all this covid stuff, but I paid every new person 15 an hour, I'd have to give everyone else a huge raise. Its a slippery slope my friend.
@Not him again, i dont understand where this 15 an hour thing you keep pushing is coming from. Ive never made any claims about raising minimum wage, or equalizing pay. That is very kind and altruistic of you to help your employees in such a time.
@Darth Panserbjorne, I only mentioned the 15/hr thing because thats what so many people are pushing for. I didn't mean to come across that I thought you were one of those people, my bad
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