In a lot of states you have to be 21 now to buy tobacco and vape products. I like how they can ship you off to die in a giant sandbox at 18 but god forbid you smoke a cig or have a beer.
@Depressed Retail Guy, thats because we are disposable commodities
@eksat, Oops I think you mean "essential."
@Depressed Retail Guy, in Iraq they don't card you, just saying.
@eksat, Are you disposable? Who has come to you saying they're going to dispose of you.
@butternut squash, landlord, job, the government
@eksat, Join the Army, it'll make you or break you
@butternut squash, if I wanted to kill myself I'd use a gun and not waste hundreds of tax payers money
@eksat, just git gud
@eksat, I actually have a lot of anxiety and depression due to how difficult the legal system is on me, and how I have to be the cream of the crop of men in so many situations to really achieve my goals, it is exhausting.
@Depressed Retail Guy, no disposable is the right word
"Sorry, Billy, you've got to die... SOBER!"
Everyone does realize that there has not been a draft in years and it is voluntary to join the military and not only that, if you join your MOS does not have to be infantry...I'm not saying that the age shouldn't be 18, but someone needs to be drafted and forced to fight and die before making this comparison.
@fettman1138, It is a choice to jeopardize your health by smoking, for 18 year olds, an illegal one. It is a choice to jeopardize your life by serving in the military, for 18 year olds, a legal one. Even not considering a draft, we can see a discrepancy between the interests of public health and those of the military. The military will try to generate the most effective soldiers by any means tolerated by the public.
@fettman1138, yeah i think the issue at hand is the age at which society determines you’re able to make life and death decisions for yourself. at 18 you can choose to jeopardize your life as an infantry marine, but at 18 you’re not deemed old or responsible enough to choose to jeopardize your life with a beer or cigarette
@fettman1138, in what way does it matter? If I can legally choose to join the armed forces, I should be able to choose to have a beer or a smoke. Age of consent is the same when I make decisions concerning my life. Yes, it is that black and white. Decide and stop playing games.
“No. Just regular war.”
Need a reason to drink first
There is a large part of America that doesn’t believe 18yr olds should be able to go to war.
17. They’ll kill ya at 17, folks.