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@mycatsanahole, most of the time yea, sometimes protesters antagonize the police so they react, so when they actually get a reaction they call out the police for being aggressive.
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@mycatsanahole, no it’s all one big riot
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Take a break as our mayor lol
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Dirty cops are only "a few bad apples" but all protestors are violent looters? Makes perfect sense
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@Pvt BB Ghanoush, hypocrisy on both sides, you see the same thing being said on the other side
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@The nOly One, a good cop who says nothing or is fired for saying something makes the entire force bad. I agree, everybody kinda sucks, but c'mon
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@Pvt BB Ghanoush, I mean, protesters who stand by and say nothing about the rioters make the entire protest bad?
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@The nOly One, there's many videos of people calling out, in some cases literally restraining and handing over to police, these agitators. The police is an organization that has failed time and time again to hold those bad cops accountable. The protests are large groups of mostly unorganized individuals. There is not much the peaceful protestors can do.
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@Pvt BB Ghanoush, I can understand that point, I think its also important to point out not every single police precinct, and subsequently every police force has bad apples. And even more police forces and police precincts deal with their bad apples. Both of these things have been shown to be true time and time again. Does that mean their aren’t police forces that protect their bad apples? No, but condemning all police in America (which are run locally not federally anyway) because there are bad policemen and bad police precincts is also not a great response
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@The nOly One, you are correct, it's insane to say every force in every city is bad. But in the big cites? Where the majority of the US population is? I'm not for the complete disbanding of all police. But there needs to be major changes, demilitarization (seriously, why are local PDs better equipped than the National Guard?), better and more frequent de-escalation training (sleep deprived 19yr old kids in foreign countries show better restraint when they are looking at a guy they know is going to shoot at them in a couple hours), and getting rid of police unions that bend over backwards to keep bad cops but kick out good ones that bring up internal problems. Just my $.02, everyone is entitled to their own opinion I guess.
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@Pvt BB Ghanoush, Police aren’t really militarized. Or at least not like you think. Those “Tanks” as the media like to call them, better know as MRAPs, are all military surplus vehicles, acquired at a fraction of the cost compared to buying wholesale. They are a necessity when dealing with barricaded suspects and active shooter situations, providing police much needed cover to approach the suspect. They have saved many lives. They bring them to protests simply because when bottles and shjt get thrown at them, the windows don’t explode. They don’t use them to mount heavy weapons or anything like that. In fact, near every single weapon and vehicle that police own are also completely legal for civilians to own as well, state law permitting, with the exceptions of tear gas and submachine guns (nearly only used in SWAT situations). Us guys in reserve/guard have FAR better equipment, but its mostly for war, not riot control.
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@Pvt BB Ghanoush, I do agree that police unions are a plague, and perhaps stricter training regiments could be implemented, but that requires more funding, not less funding like so many protestors are demanding.
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@Kierkegaard, I don't have all the answers man, but increasing police budgets has done almost nothing so far to stop crime or police abuse
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@Pvt BB Ghanoush, I understand where you're coming from with them not getting prosecuted. A lot of times that's because of how much power police unions have, and Qualified Immunity. I feel like if you end police unions and take a closer look at Qualified Immunity then we would reach middle ground and maybe see some progress without limiting the police force good guys.
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@Pvt BB Ghanoush, Youre forgetting who is going to help you if you have a break in. Or if your "friendly" protestors make it to your neighborhood. Theres bad cops and bad protestors. Theres no right and wrong anymore. Just tit for tat. As soon as one repressed group gets the upperhand they act just as bad or worse as the group that formerly oppressed them. Everyone is equally garbage locked into an in unending cycle of who they think is king of the garbage.
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@Captain Magma, but they did get prosecuted. Yet the violence still reigns? Its not a call for hustice anymore just savagery.
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@undeadpuns, No you're right and I agree with you. I'm just saying sometimes people might not get prosecuted and that's why, I was just trying to meet in the middle of "all cops are bad" and "no cops are bad"
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@undeadpuns, 1. Defunding the police is not getting rid of the police, so make sure not to conflate the two. I’d be happy to explain the difference if you’re interested. 2. It took nationwide protests in every state in the US along with 8 other countries joining protests and condemning the initial ruling to charge those officers. Are you suggesting that it should take this much effort to hold police officers accountable under the law? If not, then you’ll understand that this problem extends far past George Floyd. “Violence” does not reign, it occurs and unfortunately so, but don’t negate the vast majority of peaceful protests and their cries for equal justice under the law amongst all people.
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@airguitarpro, no its just removing their teeth. Making them ineffective. What you want is Annarchy and your method is domestic terrorism. You cant act like you care about inncocent people while also burning the buisness of inncocent people and killing them. If you want justice then protestors and rioters beed to be locked up
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@airguitarpro, Defund - prevent from continuing to receive funds. And even if you don't take all funding, the first thing to get scaled back is training. It'll just make cops worse.
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@undeadpuns, Wait I want anarchy? Thank you for telling me what I want man, I was so confused earlier. Protesters are not looters. To conflate the two is as ridiculous as saying all gun owners are murderers cause murderers have used guns. A silly and alarmist argument. You’re clearly not the reasonable sort, and I was looking forward to having a conversation with you but you went a bit sideways on me. Goodnight sir.
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@airguitarpro, this isnt for conversation. What you need to do is sit down for a while and think about just how good you have it and the sacrifices of hard working police to keep it that way.
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@Captain Magma, This is not true. Defunding means to decrease the amount of money/responsibilities from the police department and allocate those funds to other specialized institutions such as mental health facilities. You claim this would make cops worse, but on the contrary, it would greatly help police. Imagine the stress that comes from being responsible for everything and being properly trained on a fraction of it. That is a standard police officer. Noise complaint? Police. Homeless man being aggressive? Police. Illegal drug sale? Police. Car accident? Police. Domestic dispute? Police. Rabid dog on the loose? Police. Car going too fast? Police. Everything under the sun, police are expected to respond and often times, their involvement can needlessly escalate a situation. Combine that with the fact that they cannot be trained in all of these areas and you get mistakes, stress, and stress leading to mistakes. By defunding the police, police can be made responsible (part 1)
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@Captain Magma, For a few things and focus on those. They can get adequate training in those areas. They can also rest easy knowing that they don’t have to worry about things that they shouldn’t have to be responsible for. Other institutions or agencies can specialize in the homeless, or specialize in civility within a neighborhood. Too many police complain that their job is overly stressful and needlessly complicated/overly burdensome, and I and many others agree. Defunding the police helps both alleviate that burden police face as well as invest in other facilities which are better equipped to deal with certain situations that the police aren’t able to reliably do well.
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@undeadpuns, You’re not arguing against me. You’re making up absurdist claims in bad faith. You really think between the two of us that all I want is anarchy and domestic terrorism? Really? For trying to have a conversation? How do you think you have the moral grounds here when you just assassinated my character and made shjt up to get mad about?
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I wish that’s what they were like, as opposed to blocking roads/highways/bridges/train tracks
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“I believe you should maybe let people breathe, eh?”
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I saw a sign at one of the BLM protest that said “what does Epstein and George have in common? They both didn’t kill them selves.”
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@NameyMcNameFace, what does that even mean? Also here to pay respects at the NameyMcNameFace Memorial starting next week.
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@That one lurker, ? Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself and George Floyd didn’t kill himself. Why is the a memorial next week for me? Also I want all dead memes to have memeorials.
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@NameyMcNameFace, you almost got me to break my nose on that one.
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People seem to forget about Justine Damond who was a White woman killed by a Black cop in the same city (Minneapolis) there were no riots then? In fact because the officer was black and being prosecuted. It was STILL being considered as RACIST that a Black cop was being convicted of Murder! Even then his partner wasnt convicted. Now that tables have turned. The officer is being convicted of Murder And Manslaughter and so are the other cops. (One of whom was only on the force for 4 days) the protests alone are unnesccary. Especially the violence. And now they want to defund the entire police force. Not just there but everywhere! Its upsurd and makes me vomit.
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@undeadpuns, They don't care if white people die and only care about black deaths if the killer is white.
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@undeadpuns, What are you talking about? They didn’t even give officer Noor the right to defend himself. If you’re going to bring evidence of a black officer killing a white woman and getting an unfair advantage, at least give an example of a black police officer who was given due process. It didn’t take riots and protests for Noor to be convicted of 12 and a half years for 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter. In fact it took nothing to charge him of these crimes and strip him of his rights to a defense. I saw the world through your heavily distorted lens, I’d vomit too. Next time you talk, make sure you give the context. Get some sense and stop being an alarmist.
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@airguitarpro, I'll pray for you
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@undeadpuns, What exactly are you praying for? I’m just replying to you and giving the context you purposefully missed so as to push your bs narrative. Please pray for yourself, but I’ll tell you one thing, God isn’t responsible for your terrible arguments and overall rudeness, thats on you.
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@airguitarpro, I understand that you strongly disagree. But I fail to see how anything ive said is rude
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@undeadpuns, You wrote my counter argument off as wanting anarchy and that my method was “domestic terrorism.” I didn’t just strongly disagree with you, I corrected you and provided context, and that was your response. You labeled me a terrorist and said it wasn’t up for conversation. I’ll give you a chance to explain what you mean and how I wasn’t suppose to take that as “rude.”
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@undeadpuns, then there is another case for Tony Timpa a white guy in TX but I think all the cops where white as well. Idk all the details
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In India, when women protested with the men (to try curb violence) against the Muslim immigration policies, many women reported being beaten in their private areas with Police batons, they were not hindered. In China, the protestors are being systematically incarcerated and/or killed, yet these protestors comtinue. These American protests have not been scenes of bad-assery and epic defiance, but rather consisted mostly of marching and raiding of shops.
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Protests in Wakanda.
No those are riots in America. The protesters are separate from this shjt from what i have seen.