I havent played it. But from tlou i dont think thats the elli i know. I played the dlc as well.
@Cuactemoc4919, but hey people change. Either from good to bad
@Cuactemoc4919, the game doesn't really show us how she changed so thats why it feels weird. We have to guess why they changed and how they changed
@delsinrowedent, thinking outside the box.
Hey spoilers people
Unpopular opinion I guess but... I really liked what they did in TLoU2. Ellie's memory of Joel there talked about her ability to forgive what he did. If she could forgive what he did, then Abby deserved forgiveness too. What joel did was much worse than what Abby did, just because we loved joel and saw everything from his and ellie's perspective doesn't make his actions honorable or decent. Abby did the exact same thing to ellie that joel did to Abby, but abbys actions didn't doom humanity like Joel's did. If he deserved forgiveness, which is what ellie decided in that moment, then Abby did too. Ellie sacrificed everything to learn how to forgive, which is much better than making those same sacrifices just to continue the cycle of violence that never ends.
@EVILdrPORKCHOP3, they didn’t even know if the vaccine would’ve worked and didn’t bother to tell Ellie she would die
@CMNDR BUbbles, when you're trying to save the entire world, you may withhold information and possibly commit immoral acts against an individual
@EVILdrPORKCHOP3, gonna have to disagree. The story is disgustingly bad and only works if you leave out parts of it. I do not like Abby. She has no sympathy from me and I hope she dies. She brutality tortured and kill joel in front of basically his daughter, and was literally gonna slit the throat of a pregnant woman for revenge. She has no sympathy from me when she's so evil. Also it's annoying having the writters be like "SEE ABBY GOOD. ELLIE BAD." It's annoying. And the amount of stupid plot holes makes me hate the game. And even watching interview of the writer essentially saying "you don't understand the story" instead of own up to the criticism is disgusting. Screw TLOU2. There's alot more problems but I'll stop there to avoid going on a whole 87 page rant.
@delsinrowedent, I finished the game today. Its not as good as the first game but I enjoyed it. Maybe I'm just not as critical as other people.
@CrazyRightWinger, I say If you interested go watch yongyea's review analysing the story or even angry Joe's and you'll see where I come from
@delsinrowedent, I think the story itself should’ve played out much differently. The pacing of the game needed to be different. Joel’s death happened WAY too early in the game for it to have made enough of an impact. Had they also had us play as Abby more and learn about her more from the beginning of the game, I would have actually cared about her character when it came down to the Abby vs. Ellie plot. I would have had empathy towards her character. But they never setup anything for me to actually invest In her character. They set her up as the antagonist from the very start, and only after seeing her do stuff we didn’t want her to do is when we had to REPLAY THE STORY but from her POV.
@delsinrowedent, but I don't need other people to tell me how to think I enjoyed the game and I don't need any deeper analysis. Honestly I'm more of a last of us multi-player fan any way, I got hundreds of hours into factions so I'm hoping they bring it back someday.
@CrazyRightWinger, I'm not telling you to let other people think for you. I was simply suggesting that you look at how a more critical analysis effects the story. How the more you think about it the more it falls apart. If you don't care and you enjoyed it then that's fine, it was simply a suggestion for you to see some of the criticisms that many people overlooked.
@Grybo, I feel the same way brother
@delsinrowedent, I love you. I feel the exact same way. For those who dont want spoilers stop reading. I was willing to look past the Joel part because I figured it was coming and I figured we would get our revenge at the end. Not only does she brutally murder Joel, we have to spend half the game playing as her and developing a sort of "relationship" with her. Every time I mistakenly died I was like well thats it thats the end of the game thats fine with me. Not only did we have to play as the fvcking villain half the game, we had to play as her while we hunted down and brutally beat Ellie within an inch of her life. NOT ONLY THAT but when we play as Ellie again we go through hell to get to Abby and we fvcking rescue her and let her go live her life. NOT ONLY THAT, everyone ellie cared about is gone in the end, she lost Joel, she lost Tommy, she lost Dina, she lost the baby, she lost their friend (the baby's dad), she even lost Shimmer. Fvck that storyline with a passion.
@BIessthefaII, I love you too
@BIessthefaII, there were several points in this game that should have been “the end” and weren’t. Not once during the first LoU did I ever have the thought “when is this game gonna be over?” I felt it 4 times during this one.
She only lost Joel and Jesse (and Shimmer too I guess). In the final cutscene if you look at her wrist you see Dina's bracelet on her. That cutscene wasn't immediately after Ellie and Abby's fight but probably months after that happened. Ellie got home and made up with Dina, not sure about Tommy and started living in Jackson again instead of the farm. She went back to the farm to finally say goodbye to Joel for good and went back home to her family.
"There's always a place for you in Jackson"
I think this is the reason why it's so hated. Most of the story is hidden within implications and subtle hints. The writers probably thought that being "deep" and making the story hard to understand is genius while leaving nothing for the surface level story. I see a lot of comments about the "Revenge bad" message but I had a different experience with that.
@Ald0bii, took me 6 days to get a notification for this comment lol. If that's the case then I think that's an infinitely better end to the game than what i interpreted it as. With that said, I feel like her simply wearing Dina's bracelet doesn't mean they're together or on good terms. I dont know if anything official was ever said as I try and avoid all that stuff as best I can, but ill just hope your ending is the right one.
Wtf spoiler?!?!?!? I thought the funnypics community was better than that.
@Khjunky, I’ve always heard the rule on spoilers is 1 month, so it’s fair game now
@Langenator, for a movie sure. But not a $60 video game that takes 40 hours to beat.
@Khjunky, I suppose that’s a fair point
Ay fùck your spoilers
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