I literally have never thought about Nevada until this week and now I cannot stop thinking about it.
50th in education baby! #Nevadaborn
@FunkeyMonkey1o1, most of Nevada actually has pretty decent education, it's Clark county that brings the scores down
Upvote if you think the delays are fraud. Down vote if you think its normal for officials to just stop counting ballots during a controversial elections.
@spongeblade, I can’t tell if you’re trolling. Stopping/delaying the count is fraud for either side. People voted, just because states are slow at counting doesn’t make their votes any less valid.
@ArrowOdd, I mean the comment was more in jest than anything. But they weren't slow at counting, they just up and stopped for no reason. Boarded up windows, kicked out the people overseeing the ballots. Heck there's videos of the people "counting" the ballots just straight up filling in new ones and marking them as valid. If you genuinely think there isn't fraud, I suggest you turn off CNN and spend an hour researching it. The only reason the votes aren't done being counted is because of fraud on a scale never seen in the u.s.
@ArrowOdd, in Michigan and Wisconsin there were also batches of 100k+ votes that were 100% Biden. Not rounding, 100% Biden, 0 votes Trump or even 3rd party. It would be a joke how fragrant the fraud is if it wasn't so serious.
@spongeblade, I don’t watch CNN... Trumps approval rating is low, he urged his voters not to vote by mail, I’m not sure why is a surprise late incoming votes are mainly Biden votes. I noticed a lot of news sources have slightly different counts but there is no proof of fraud. You’re saying right now that swing states are rigging elections.
@ArrowOdd, there is plenty of proof. Cnn, msncbc, ABC, fox, all the big media outlets aren't reporting it. But if you take a minute and actually look into it yourself, its pretty easy to find. Over 3k people in NV have been referred to the justice department for election fraud. There are videos of the officials telling all the "republican observers" to leave. The windows have been boarded up in several spots. And I'm not saying they are, its very obvious that they are. There is enough evidence that it doesn't matter that much at this point what the "final" counts are. This election is going to be decided after a metric crap ton of litigation.
@ArrowOdd, there is also videos/photos of ballots with clearly false info for mass numbers of ballots. People that were born in 1920 registering in 1900? Then that shows up on thousands of records? Thats not an error, its fraud.
@spongeblade, of course they’re telling “observers” to leave, but your arguments aren’t based in fact, a lot of these lawsuits are being thrown out as hearsay. I could claim that the states Trump narrowly won were also won in fraud, why? Because I can. That doesn’t make it true or valid.
@ArrowOdd, you can't just claim Trumps states were fraud as a counter argument, unless of course you have real examples that aren't made up on the spot. I've cited several examples that have video evidence showing the criminal acts. And btw, the "observers" are mandated to be there by law in order to oversee that the election is legitimate. The court orders aren't being thrown out, there are court orders (that you could read yourself if you bothered to lift your finger and look) that explicitly state these observers need to be given proper access.
@spongeblade, lol every single bit of "video proof" provided so far is just random videos with no context, or are just random people talking. Like take for example one that was making the rounds of "a man loading a case near a convention center in detroit" or "someone stuffing ballots". The first was a cameraman putting away his gear and the second was from Russia
@spongeblade, there are no actual cases of official observers being shut out, and each and every court case the trump team has brought to state courts has been thrown out because lack of any tangible evidence
@jouze, there are videos of people literally filling out blank ballots. One case was thrown out by a partisan judge. Numerous other cases have gone through and Trump has won some of those. There are several cases of observers being thrown out. Thats what some of the court cases were about (Trump won those already btw). You saying that they're all thrown out just proves that you're biased and you're making crap up to support what you want because you haven't bother to look around.
@spongeblade, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Nevada have all already thrown out trumps cases. Even other Republicans are breaking from trump and saying there is no evidence of fraud. the videos of people you see being sent out of poll places are of people not officially allowed to be there. None of them were approved and all took it upon themselves to watch the polls. This is not legal and poll workers have every right to throw those people out
@jouze, you obviously haven't watched the videos then. Because they flat out say "ok I want all the republican observers to leave now". They aren't just approved, theyre legally mandated to be there. Trump won court cases stating that. Based on your comments you have no idea what you're talking about and you'll continue to live in willing ignorance. So enjoy watching as Trump wins reelection as all the fraudulent ballots are thrown out. Maybe they'll find a cure for TDS after covid.
@spongeblade, yes, "republican observers" are Republicans who took it upon themselves to watch a polling place, not the official observers who are de-identified to mitigate voter intimidation. None of them had official ID or county office statements saying they were officiated to be there
@spongeblade, there is a distinct difference in Michigan law between observers and challengers. And the precinct chairperson (the woman shown in the video) has the right to throw out any challengers who abuse the prosses and don't adhere to the guidelines including
Wearing a face mask
Challenging someone without id
Using a phone video recording in polling place
Approaching and questioning voters personally
@spongeblade, the video of someone "filling out a blank ballot" is a common legal practice called canvassing where if someone doesn't use a dark marking on a ballot, so that the machines won't be able to read it, an election official can darken the markings on the page. Someone can't just fill out a blank ballot and submit it and have it counted it must be matched to a registered voter
@spongeblade, observers aren't approved. Challengers are. Observers are people that just show up to watch. Observers can be expelled at any time. You can look on the Michigan website to see that pretty clearly so you have no idea what youre talking about
@spongeblade, oh whats that? Don't have anything to say to refute the laws and rules that are factually against you but you're just going to downvote me? Cmon, find a way to prove me wrong, show me where it says observers and not challengers are legally mandated to be there in the Michigan state law
@jouze, I was done arguing with your stupidity with my last comment. You keep arguing non sequiturs and making up facts. I've answered your "arguments" several times and you still haven't looked at the cases Trump has already won. Biden is going to cheat his way to 270, then the legal crap show will begin and you're going to be proven way wrong. Ignorant morons like you are what make this fraud possible. Enjoy your life.
@spongeblade, making up facts? Literally go to Michigan.gov and tell me I made up that theres a distinction between observers and challengers, thats real. And you're right trump has won a couple of legal battles, but not all of them. Including the ones to stop the counts in PA, NV, and MI which each were thrown out. Non sequitur? This entire time we've been debating whether something illicit happened with observers being thrown out of polling places, which as the law clearly states is well within the poll workers rights. Tell me how that is made up. I'm gonna book mark this thread and let's come back in a couple weeks and see how all those legal battles turn out
@jouze, Antimony County MI just announced a discovered software "glitch" that gave Biden over 6k Trump votes. And the software and the "glitch" is in 47 other MI counties. This is fraud, plain and simple.
@spongeblade, speaking of non sequiturs, yes that was bad and was A very obvious change of a historically red country to blue suddenly, and it was investigated. What did they find? The county clerk, who is a republican by the way, failed to update the vote counting machines and reported on unofficial results before doing a thorough recheck. The fact that it was caught and corrected shows the checks are working, and each county that has a close race will be counted by hand so even if other counties forgot to update it (which is being reported they have all updated) even then the results will be cross checked by hand
@spongeblade, the glitch occurred when precinct results were combined with in candidate wide totals, but did not affect the recorded numbers on tapes and would have been easily caught by the two democrat and republican canvasses when comparing the unofficial report (what the county clerk reported) and what is on the ballot tapes
@spongeblade, if you want to read the full report by the people in the district who did the investigation instead of the partial story meant to push a narrative you can go to the Detroit free press web page and read the full report with official statements from the county clerk
@jouze, are you really that stupid? What you just said is fraud. That glitch is in software used in some 40+ counties across the state, and ut turned thousands of votes from Trump to Biden. Its bad enough the MI state legislature is convening a special oversight hearing to investigate the problem and recount. Its far more likely that fraud that got caught than it is to be "a glitch". I'm done talking to a brain dead sheep though. Piss off and enjoy watching Trump win.
@spongeblade, the glitch happened because a republican forgot to update the software, and the investigation found that all other counties had properly updated their software. The glitch was found and corrected. You can literally read the statement by the county clerk who caused the error and reported on Biden winning in his precinct.
@spongeblade, go ahead, read the official statement by the county clerk and tell me im wrong. The report was made of an unofficial count done by a machine that is used to get a faster result, however each machine count is checked by hand to the actual voter roll tapes and would have been caught even if the error was less blatant
@spongeblade, because I know you're too lazy to actually go find the real story yourself ""In order to report unofficial results, county clerks use election management system software to combine the electronic totals from tabulators and submit a report of unofficial results," the release said. "Because the clerk did not update software, even though the tabulators counted all the ballots correctly, those accurate results were not combined properly when the clerk reported unofficial results." Per the department of state in Michigan
Wow, you got this uploaded fast
@AussiePatrick, if only Nevada was that fast
Trump voters: stop counting votes!
Trump voters: count the votes!
Looking real thight at Georgia also