Of course its blue. Nearly all large city's are blue.
@Khjunky, and here we see the real divide in America. Not between race, education, or faith. But between urban and rural values. Which makes sense if you think of the immediate interactions and what you can respond to in each scenario. In rural areas freedom is more highly prioritized because each person has space to do their own thing and have it only affect themselves, and they don't really see much benefit personally from social programs and municipal services. Whereas in a city you have to make sacrifices because there's so many other people around so equality is more highly valued, and people in the city see immediate personal and social benefits from social programs
@jouze, You are correct. I have never seen a deeper divide among the two though. Changing the current climate of Us vs. Them is going to be difficult at best and social media amplifies this mentality exponentially. I am making it a point to really listen and try to empathize with those who have different views than I do. They aren't the enemy, the U.S. has enough of those in the world to be at each others throats.
@Funny Pics Janitor, im just gpnna move to new zealand. The damage is too permanent from foreign powers and the media poisoning us against eachother
@Funny Pics Janitor, yeah its really hard. And our biology is partly to blame even because we're tribal animals so our brains our wired to behave in tribal units and it is hard to break the basis you brain has built for something that is "right" and "wrong". I really wonder what would be a way to bridge that divide and give people perspective of the other sides values but its not clear what that could be
@CellSword, Every country in the world is brainwashed by their media to some extent.
@jouze, that’s gotta be the longest most objective non biased political analysis I’ve seen on this site. Well done
@jouze, I think it boils down to anger. People on both sides feel left out, overlooked, ignored and losing hope, and they are genuinely fed up with it. People have lost what little faith they had in the system and have no outlet for their disapproval that has become full-blown rage for some. My brother and I couldn't be more opposed politically if we tried but we sure as hell aren't going it let tear us apart. His views are just as valid as mine. We made a pact to pause, take a deep breath and listen to each other and try to understand each other. It sure as shït ain't going to be easy but we owe each other the benefit of the doubt.
@Khjunky, I giggled when you described Scranton as a large city. I live in a suburb of Dallas with 5 times the population of Scranton.
@jouze, and also religion. Which makes it real hard to have actual debates.
@Papyru, the trick to not being brainwashed is not being an idiot. Invest in education
@BigJohnson86, sorry, "any city of relevant size"
@jouze, could not agree more, I’m a city boy but drove out to the country a lot to visit a girl I was dating and even started noticing my thoughts changing as I started heading out. It really seems like it’s a sense of community in rural areas that makes a city stronger as opposed to the government. Might also contribute to xenophobia if you already know everyone and hardly meet anyone new or diverse.
@Funny Pics Janitor, I don't think the people are really divided. I think that something malevolent wants us to divide, to weaken us. All of the media outlets that are saying that we're so divided may be being influenced or completely controlled by said malevolence. I think it's important that intelligent people disagree with me on political points. That leads to discussion and enlightenment. All of us are ignorant. Only together can we overcome that.
@Khjunky, might have something to do with joe Biden being from Scranton
@Papyru, that's true but new zealand is at least listening to their scientists, and its clearly paying off
@jouze, the rural people do not try to pass laws and force their ideas onto the city people. The reverse is not true.
@jouze, yeah, but the city folks want to make everybody live by their rules, even if those rules don’t makes sense for rural folks. Most people who vote red just want to be left alone. People who vote blue tend to be busybodies that want to control other people’s lives.
@Funny Pics Janitor, a common enemy will inite them but for a short time till they can start focusing on each other again. Anybody willing to be a world bad guy.
@jouze, educate humans from a young age. But hey were brainwash children with religion disney and lies. Educate properly dont hide or lie about what really happened and dont sugar coat.
@big freedom, that's not entirely true though. While rural people may not typically try to restrict the freedoms of urban centers (save for maybe rights to abortion and marriage not too long ago) they do end up restricting their access to equality which is their priority. Such as access to equal healthcare or education. But im guessing you don't care/don't think those things should be equal. But urban people typically don't care about restricting freedoms because they've already had to give up some freedoms in their lives. So until you impart on them the value of those freedoms they will continue to challenge them and frustrate you
@Daps295, care to argue your point about how listening to scientists is bad?
@jouze, dude, nice to know you advocate for slavery.
@jouze, I don’t think I understand what you mean by “I don’t value their access to equality...”?
I would never restrict anyone from receiving healthcare or education. Does that mean I have to pay for their access? If so, That’s a different meaning to equal.
It’s not anyone’s job to teach urban people that my liberty is important. The default of government should not be “we’ll allow it if we think it’s ok” it should be “unless you can prove that it must not be allowed, it is not the government’s job to restrict it”.
The electric city!
Can’t it all just be purple
Well, well, well, how the turntables have...
Biden is taking away our second amendment...
Michael would not be smiling irl. Also funny how it started red and magically changed blue overnight when no one was allowed to watch.
@philbert15, you’re right. and I think we can all agree that it’s just lovely to see so many deceased folks coming out to vote, patriotism at its finest! Not even death can suspend their duty as Americans
@Stugots, nobody dead was actually found to have voted (theyre on voter rolls but that's an entirely different thing). Unless you mean the case of a trump supporter requesting an absentee ballot for his dead mom, which was caught...
Somehow I can never remember which side is red and which side is blue so it always takes a couple of minutes to realize what a map like this means.
@SimonPetrikov, I think it’s that red vs blue show all the kids are talking about
@SmartFeller, Oh the one with the Halos?
@SimonPetrikov, There are multiple halos so you’re technically correct.
@SmartFeller, Caboose/Sheila 2024!
Actually, corruption and enabling practices of city managers within cities is the reason for the divide.
@TheAgent, always stepping on the small beat farmers.
Huh reality anchor that explains things