Make sure to thank a healthcare worker
@shake n blake, as a healthcare worker that’s much appreciated, but I think most of us are just grateful to still be fully employed through all of this.
@shake n blake, don’t tell me how to live my life
@shake n blake, they knew what they signed up for. I mean, if there was an all out war, we’d need doctors and nurses to step up to the front line regardless of how much pressure was put on them. I’d love to give them compensation but imagine a doctor or nurse saying no because of how hard it got. I’ll thank them, but that’s as far as I’d go
@Your Darkest Secret, you must be fun at parties
@CaptainCrunchyCvnt, thank you healthcare worker
@Your Darkest Secret, they can say no if they want. They’re not slaves.
@Your Darkest Secret, I'm a healthcare worker. You're right. It is what I signed up for.
I cringe everytime some whiny-ass tiktok nurse bitches on the news or social media. They don't represent all of us.
In healthcare, we are rapidly losing our sense of duty because we've found out turning on the waterworks for brownie points is far better than actually doing our jobs.
@Prince super Vegeta , true
@LookOutASni, I have two friends, one who is an EMT and the other who works in a hospital and they both feel the same way about it
@Your Darkest Secret, There is a pretty large number of healthcare workers who are starting to get skeptical of a lot of the goings on during the pandemic (I'd say roughly half).
We just often choose not to say anything cause some chucklef*ck whose never worked with a patient in their life will accuse us of "nOt CaRiNg AbOuT tHe PeOpLe SuFfErInG".
We care just as much for the sick and dying as the next person. It's what we signed up for and we need to handle it with the grace and professionalism that is expected of us. Acting all "woe is me" and crying for clout on social media at the first sign of trouble is a shameful display by our medical workers, and worse, some of them even use their licenses to push a multitude of political agendas that have gotten wrapped up in this whole mess.
@Your Darkest Secret, My mind goes to that nurse on the news last week who claimed to have "heard many of the last words of people dying of COVID and it's all denial" only to find out her hospital had less than half a dozen COVID deaths and she didn't even work in the ICU.
But the media just ate up that panic porn without so much as a retraction.
@LookOutASni, I've been in "health care" since I was 18 back in 2003. This is what we agreed to do. Sure, maybe we figured there would be more mask and gloves but we agreed, collectively to help our local communities. I don't need a thanks. If you want to support us please just stay home and wear a damn mask.
@fuddruckers, I can get onboard with masking and social distancing.
Where I draw the line is the mandatory quarantine of the healthy and the shuttering of private businesses.
Not to mention the blantant violations of the first amendment (Religion and assembly specifically.)
I just believe that it is best to let adults be adults and make decisions for themselves. The consequences be on their heads.
These thanksgiving memes sure are late - A Canadian
In all fairness my hospital paid me Time and a half, plus 8 hours bonus pay for working 12 hrs on Thanksgiving. Plus a free lunch, and my mother in law dropped off all the leftovers from the family dinner for me. So all in all I'm good with working Thanksgiving.
My girlfriends sister is a nurse, she is working in ICU but a lot of her friends are working on the covid floors of the hospital, and she said the worst thing about some of the covid patients is that they’re in denial until their symptoms are overwhelming, and then they’re just angry, at themselves, at everyone. She said her coworkers have had some (mostly older, or at risk patients who are immunocompromised) patients who have passed, and they’re in their final hours, away from their families, mostly alone because they’re understaffed, angry because they’ve been misled, and there’s nothing they can do but hope they don’t die. You can point to their actions and say “well they should’ve known better” but it doesn’t make it any less tragic. They’re on respirators in their final hours, with nothing but cognitive dissonance to keep them company. I really hate that people are being inconsiderate of others during this, but I wouldn’t wish that fate on anyone.
Spike in cases ≠ spike in hospitalizations or deaths. We have made a lot of progress in treatments and the survival rate has vastly improved since April.
As a healthcare worker the main issues I'm seeing in the hospital right now are alcoholic cirrhosis, opioid overdoses, and suicide attempts. We are hurting people with these constant lockdowns. People are losing their jobs, losing their insurance, turning to substance abuse, and losing all hope.
The elderly (the most vulnerable population, and the population that represents 99% of the deaths) are suffering in nursing homes alone and are dying alone. But hey, you know, at least they got to live another few months in total isolation and fear before they die. Thank God we didn't let them have Thanksgiving with their family one last time. That'd be horrible!
Don't be stupid, but quit living in fear and letting it rule your life.
@LookOutASni, this would have been over at the start of the year if we just had a proper fücken lock down instead of random short ones
@Dexios S Divine, "Even if we do everything almost perfectly, we will still be looking at around 200,000 deaths". -Dr. Deborah Birx, March 2020
@Dexios S Divine, and no, it wouldn't have been. That's not how epidemics work. They don't just magically go away one day.
Example: Most people don't realize that H1N1 swine flu is still around. Roughly 20,000 last year. COVID is here to stay and lockdowns only delay the inevitable and are destroying the financial and mental well-being of everyone along the way.
@LookOutASni, literally worked for most of the world, people with annoying arguments likes this are what feed the idiots that make a disease political
@Dexios S Divine, The rest of the world is seeing a COVID spike as well. Melbourne went straight back into lockdown shortly after the lockdown was lifted, cause it turns out, the disease DIDN'T MAGICALLY GO AWAY.
In addition, the politicization of COVID is what is directly leading to the skewing of the COVID results in the first place.
Did you know, for example, that hospitals get $23,000 dollars in extra federal funding per case of COVID reported? Tell me they don't have a vested interest in over reporting numbers. This is how you get results like George Floyd counting as a COVID death because COVID was in his system when he died.
This is why you also see colds and flus at an almost standstill while COVID continues to rise.
Not to mention, for the entire year, a whole half of the political spectrum had a vested interest in making conditions seem as bad as possible to weaponize against the other half.
@LookOutASni, I don’t care about that covid marking death result argument, seen it enough and its been disproved by plenty. No one wants this shït to go on any longer, it’s literally not helping anyone, hospitals are beyond over worked. Of course they went back up, the fücken vaccine hasnt been put out yet. Lock down is just a means to slow it down damn it not make it go away. Worst case, the people who had it die or get better while locked down and itd be gone. But no, dumb two week lock downs or random limitations expecting everyone to follow them. We’d be fine following japan or korrea but nah, we gotta put more focus on money over the people
@Dexios S Divine, Disproven by whom? I have literally seen it with my own two eyes, a patient with CHF and pneumonia later ruled to have died of COVID-19. I literally do not care what the Snopes "fAcT cHeCk" says.
Deaths due to COVID-19 may be misclassified as pneumonia or influenza deaths in the absence of positive test results, and pneumonia or influenza may appear on death certificates as a comorbid condition.
Additionally, COVID-19 symptoms can be similar to influenza-like illness, thus deaths may be misclassified as influenza. Thus, increases in pneumonia and influenza deaths may be an indicator of excess COVID-19-related mortality.
The COVID spike with no accompanying flu/cold spike tells me one of two things:
1. The masks and social distancing isn't working. (Not likely).
2. The COVID numbers are inflated.
I'm not saying it isn't real, or that we shouldn't take it seriously. I'm saying that we can't live in our hidey-holes until there's no risk whatsoever.
@Dexios S Divine, I forgot the quotations, but the second and third paragraph of my reply is a direct quotation from the CDC COVID-19 facts page. Last updated on October 7th of this year.
The damn CDC says it's inflated, man.
@Dexios S Divine, It's easy to say that we care about money instead of people until you've done a gastric lavage on a man who took a half a bottle of Tylenol after he lost his job or sat with a demented patient who screamed for their wife all day who isn't allowed to come be with them in their time of need.
The fact you imply that it's all about money tells me that you really don't understand the day-to-day struggle of the lower and middle class at all. Money isn't important until you have none and you end up on the streets or institutionalized.
@LookOutASni, weve had three possible pandemics happen under obama and none of them broke out to the entire country, that admin handled it well and surprisingly the senate and house too. We get one during trump and we’re here now. People wouldnt be dying from isolation sickness or fearing evictions and other money issues if we followed what asia did to stop the spread, minus china because they lie about too much there. I’m literally middle class ive been dealing with this shít too and i have family in the med field, so no, im not ignorant to anything going on with covid. America is beyond selfish to the point of self destruction. Cant wait for actual leaders to be in charge again to keep the idiots quiet so we can go back to some form of normal by next year
@Dexios S Divine, Do you remember going into lockdown during Ebola? Swine flu? (Btw with swine flu, 1000 people had already died before Obama declared an emergency, despite it being far less lethal than COVID) Zika?
No. No we didn't. We isolated the infected and shut down travel to the source countries.
Meanwhile, March 2020, a few weeks after Trump announced travel restrictions from China amid accusations of racism and xenophobia, Nancy Pelosi visits Chinatown in SF and recommends others do it too to show "our love for immigrants".
Who was the irresponsible one here, dude? The President following established procedure for pandemic response (including leaving decisions about declaration of emergency up for the states WHICH YOU ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY OBLIGATED TO DO) far earlier than his predecessor did and stimulating the creation of an effective vaccine in the shortest period of time ever, or the morons who pathologically cannot allow Trump to do ANYTHING unopposed, to the (ctd.)
detriment of the American people because you hate him so much.
Do me a favor.
Stop reading headlines and getting angry at the things they tell you to get angry at. Do some actual research on your own and formulate your own conclusions.
@LookOutASni, yeah notice how I included everything involved and not just obama, the government now is shït, we would have been fine doing just that but instead we waited and did stupid shït for political points. Im not reading headlines or following talking points. Im tired of everything being political and being an argument, it’s gotten to the point people argue about who is okay to let die and live. None of this drama was around to this scale during obamas time. Im not sucking dićk thats just the reality of it. All this dumb polarized shït happened under trumps time and im glad its almost fücken over. Senete and house are old and dying and younger people are getting in, fućk i hope shït changes.
@Dexios S Divine, The polarization of America began way before Trump. Trump is merely the symptom of the disease, not the disease itself.
Don't forget, numerous outbreaks, school shootings and race riots occurred during the Obama administration (Sandy Hook, Ferguson, Trayvon Martin, the growth of ISIS, Antifa and BLM both formed during his administration) but the media didn't blame these events on his "divisive rhetoric" or some such nonsense like they did with Trump. Rather, the media sucked Obama's d*ck for eight whole years and they're gonna do it for at least another four for Biden until it's election season and the media can find another "Hitler" to fight against while proclaiming that America needs to "go back to normalcy" despite the fact that nothing has changed whatsoever.
It is not about your safety, it's not about the disease or about the economy. It's about power and another Boomer in office will not change that.
@LookOutASni, im aware that trump was just a tipping point. The country at least was working during obama, trumps time put us where we’re at now. Biden isn’t the best but at least its not another clown like trump. Senate could change to dems and its been historically better for the country with dems in power. Hopefully that stays true. Hopefully more younger people that arent in the pockets of whoever join the system and make good changes to stop another trump tipping point again. People need to stop picking sides and holding on to fears and hate and fücken work to make all our lives better and not just the tiny tip of people with all the money. The people in power only have it because we let them have it. I have hope that things will get at least a little better with biden because at least he’s not picking a bunch of yes men and seems like he’ll listen to others with good intentions. Hopefully the senate and house will change as well.
@Dexios S Divine,
"The country at least was working"
"At least it isn't another clown like Trump.
"He's not surrounded by yes men"
1. We had the strongest economy since the post-war boom of the 50s before COVID. Then the Democrats pushed for lockdown, not because they believed experts or that it was for everyone's safety, but because the resulting crash will make Trump look bad before the election.
2. Biden can't even string a coherent sentence together. He has a history of saying weird, even racist things at times, but the media plays it off as endearing while the same gaffes from Trump would garner the same disproportionate outrage that Trump always gets.
3. Yes, because Biden IS the yes man. If you take a look at his voting history, Biden only does exactly what his party wants him to do. He has voted along party lines. Every. Single. Time.
The only bill he's authored himself is the one that is responsible for putting thousands of black men in jail for drug charges.
@LookOutASni, This is gonna be your uniter? The guy who's gonna bring America back to normal?
The only difference between a Biden and Trump presidency is that the media won't act like we have a literal Hitler in the White House for four years.
You bought that narrative. Hook, line, and sinker.
@LookOutASni,trumps economy was riding the wave obamas era was running. The president doesnt control the flow THAT much of the economy. dunno where you’re getting your info but it’s obviously right wing. I get news from every source i can thats not shït like cnn adam jones or tucker from fox. Biden aint that good but he’s putting better people in his circle than trump did. “Dems fücked the country to make bad orange man look bad” sure, you seriously believe americas corruption is to that point on one side? Youre part of the polarization problem. The mainstream media isnt the only place to get information. You argue at me and call me shït just shows how poor your character is and why america is so divided now. People like you need to change how you debate. I shït on trump based on what he says and does. Ill do the same to biden.I shït on the senate and house just the same. Enjoy the bubble of hate you live in.
@Dexios S Divine, Lol hateful? Okay chief. I call it like I see it. There have been times where Republicans were the group the most in the wrong (mostly the early Iraq war and the neocon era as well as the era of Nixon and the moral majority). Hell, I can hardly stand the Republican party as it is right now, because I feel they are in bed way too far with corporate. But in my opinion right now, the radical left is the problem is this country. I believe this because they have stated numerous times and taken actions in recent years that indicate that they want to "redefine America" because they hold the belief that America was never a good country in the first place. I'm not ashamed of admitting that because I'm the only one who knows what's in my heart.
If you think I'm "being hateful" because I'm arguing with you, you need to do some growing up. That's called a debate. Not everyone thinks like you do, and that's okay. I'm sorry/not sorry if it hurt your feelings.
@LookOutASni, nah you just talk to me like im a child and act superior with all that wokeness. America has been shït and has a lot of rooted issues. There is nothing wrong with change. As you said, the repubs are bad right now and need change, dems arent good in that department either but not as bad as repubs. You’re not “calling it like you see it” you’re talking like an ass and using “honesty” as an excuse.Speak to people as an equal instead of someone below you.
@Dexios S Divine, Strange how you're not even addressing my arguments, now. Now you're just complaining about my "attitude" and leveling personal attacks. When you can't attack the message, attack the messenger, I guess.
Have a night. We have clearly reached the end.
P.S. That's not what "wokeness" means.
@LookOutASni, i did address both of what you said lol. You’re playing that attacking card now when you were doing it the entire time? America will not be great if it doesn’t change and address its issues. Acting like things are fine doesn’t make it so. The people in the wrong aren’t the ones that want change, its the people that want them to stay the same when issues are being called out. What happened to calling things as you see it? And yes, you talking your points in the manner you have been screamed “I’m woke and you’re not”
@Dexios S Divine, good night
@LookOutASni, night, hope our lives get better next year
An inaccurate meme with Covid. Not funny at all.
@NickD4208, ok Karen
@Mantis Tobaggan, I'm a guy "kevin".
@NickD4208, being a Karen knows no gender
@Mantis Tobaggan, yes it does hence why I called you Kevin the male equivalent.
But… But… The pandemic is a hoax! Hospital workers can’t possibly be busy during a fake outbreak. 🤔
The hospitals are not full of virus patients. They are full of people who haven’t ever taken care of themselves and have developed chronic health problems that turn into life threatening illness whenever they come down with cold, flu, or sweet and sour sickness. Only around 12,000 otherwise healthy people have died in the USA so far, way less than the average flu season.
Hospital staff and movie theater employees for some reason
Me: reading an article about how China have had covid around for the last 40 years and the rest of us are stupid fuks waiting for the reset...
I work in security and I had the day before and after Thanksgiving off but I had to work thanksgiving
I don’t work for a hospital or police or fire department but I’ve been going to work since March 18th, and I worked thanksgiving and Black Friday. I do get to see my family cuz we life 10 min away