Spreading and sharing of culture is offensive and hateful. Every culture should just be allowed to die off instead, apparently.
@ZhaothePoonSIayer, the funny thing is the Japanese like that we love their culture. They said it's a compliment. People like this bitch live in a hateful fantasy land
@FaceGhost, well, the Japanese also appropriated most of their culture from other cultures, so they're technically just paying it forward...
@Suicide Squad Sucks, most cultures have appropriated from other cultures over the thousands of years of human existence.
@ZhaothePoonSIayer, *Looks at the rich and beautiful culture of Italy*
*Looks at the cast of Jersey Shore*
Yeah, that seems to be the American way! 😁
@RogueKnight, ah, I see you're a gentleman of culture as well!
AKA someone who is aware of world history. Huzzah! We're kind of a dying breed, so it's good to meet another!
you aren’t allowed to express interest or involvement in any culture outside of your own, whitey!
How dare a white man wear a hat!! Only that race can wear hats made that way!!
If cultural appropriation is a real thing the other races are gonna be real mad to hear that they have to give up every white-invented thing they own. Oh wait, it only counts if white people do it? Gooooot it.
@DesignatedElfWhipper, i think we need to promote anti-sjw serial killers
@DesignatedElfWhipper, white isn’t... white isn’t a culture. I mean... I understand what you were getting at and I agree with the message I believe you intended but.... don’t leave low hanging fruit like that. Some sjw is gonna waste an hour of your life with replies and whatnot.
@Canis Arktos, I didn’t say white was a culture. There are many cultures belonging to many people that could be described as white, so if race controls what cultures you are and aren’t allowed to enjoy, as is often how the people who talk about cultural appropriation choose to draw their lines in the sand, then it’s not especially relevant which one in particular we’re referring to. Also there aren’t a lot of progressives on this app, so I’m fairly comfortable talking freely.
People just wanting to be mad about something, smh
Stop stealing my casserole culture, Karen
There is a big difference between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. We just need an ounce of patience to determine which it is...
@SmartFeller, There is no such thing as cultural appropriation. It does not exist. It is an entirely made up b.s term. Humans share the same universal culture and trying to segregate certain aspects of it based off petty b.s things like geographical location and skin color is beyond fing stupid. All cultures belong to all humans. End of story.
@LaDarkProphet, by definition, cultural appropriation occurs when you blatantly disrespect/make fun of somebody else's culture. Twitter sjws seem to think it's when anybody participates in a culture that isn't their own for some reason.
@AnotherLurker, Funny. I thought by definition that is not actually what the word appropriation meant. And here i thought just making fun/disrespecting "someone's culture" just made you a bigot, and or a racist, and or ignorant, and or just stupid etc. My bad.
@LaDarkProphet, Being dismissive of someone’s culture for the overarching “human” experience is insensitive to what makes a person who they are. It is 100% ok to not connect with your own culture, but others who have strong ties to theirs can find safety and love in it without using it as a divisive tool. Color and race and culture has been used to both lift people up and tear them down, but has always provided those people who connect with it a sense of identity and community. Yes we are all humans, and we have a universal way of being to an extent, but we are also very different and that should be celebrated and not ignored. Also, there is definitely cultural appropriation which involves stripping people of their heritage, customs, etc. and the repurposing of them by the offending culture. A person becoming a master in something outside of their culture is definitely NOT appropriation, though.
@The Despondent, And here I thought being a home sapien is what made you a human. Not where you live, what pigment your skin takes, or what culture you "identify" with.
You trying to justify segregating and separating people based on superficial premises like race, culture, religion etc is moronic at best and outright malicious at worst.
History, which is all culture really is, does not belong to any one group or people. It belongs to humanity as a whole and should be available to all. You can try and justify segregation and separation all you want. At the end of the day all you are doing is trying to keep people separated and divided into little groups and tribes, spreading distrust and hatred. And that, imho, is wrong.
Humans are not really all that different. That's just a historical and biological fact. And It's about time humans started sharing knowledge and experiences with each other and stopped trying to gate keep and dictate what is and is not allowed.
@The Despondent, talking a lot of sense here. Shame some people won't read it and just try to score a point against you.
We older (not quite boomers) used to believe that imitation was the sincerest form of flattery.
The funniest thing about the original post is that some person who is no part of the culture in debate, is getting all riled up on someone else's behalf, who really doesn't care, and probably just thinks that any reference to the older cultures is far better than no interest at all.
@LaDarkProphet, I feel you and I are arguing different points. You’re arguing culture and race and color is specifically there to separate us whereas I’m arguing those traits are what helps people feel a sense of belonging. Now I’m not saying those things haven’t been used to separate us, and your opinion based on your personal experience may dictate your train of thought, which I understand as I’ve dealt with my fair share of derisive commentary from people who don’t share my physical characteristics, but I would challenge you to think about it from someone else’s point of view who may take solace in their culture and enjoy their differences and celebrating the differences of others. Acknowledging someone is different from you is not malicious, judging them by that difference and setting boundaries based on them is, but taking time to listen and understand each other WHILE celebrating our differences is what you’re referring to as sharing knowledge and experiences.
@The Despondent, SMH. You are missing my point entirely.
Are you at all familiar with evolutionary psychology? A cursory basic understanding would help you in the longterm. On average humans can only roughly keep track of about 150 people at any given time. That is simply the extent the average human can track. Their own personal tribe if you will. In order for more then 150 people to really come together takes metaphysical concepts to make that possible. Humans are social animals and tribalistic by nature and it takes concepts like ethnicity, nationality and religion to gather/band larger groups of people together. Now you might think this fact is a explanation in your favor, right? (TBC)
@The Despondent, (CON)
Surely, you might think, if it literally takes a person's "culture", which is really just their ancestral geographical history, for people to come together en mass then what is the harm in separating people based on their "culture" while supposedly simultaneously taking the time to "listen, understand and respect each other's culture..." then what am I on about right?
Because people like you fail to realize that those very differences that we are supposed to celebrate and hold in such high regard, are in fact superficial and are exactly what separates people into tribes and us v.s them mentality.
I state again. People. Are. Not. That. Different. And it is because people like yourself believe that we are so drastically different that we even have petty things like racism and superiority, not that I belive your racist. Because group A believes, based on their culture, that they are superior to group B and so on. (TBC)
@The Despondent, (CON)
You are in fact arguing that it is ok and just to separate humanity into groups so long as everyone is respectful and understanding of each other's supposed differences. A quite literal separate but equal mentality.
My argument is that we should instead not separate and segregate humans into groups at all and instead come to the obvious realization that we are all humans and should share everything together as a whole, not because of our supposed differences but in spite of them. We, as a literal species, should stop this petty tribal nonsense and celebrate all histories as a shared whole. If a Australian Aboriginal wants to learn about Japanese history and experience their "culture" he should be ENCOURAGED to do so, and vice versa. Not damned, berated and insulated either for betraying their own "culture" or for being a foreigner in a different one. It should be available to everyone because everyone is a human and has the right, imho, to take part. (FIN)
@The Despondent, (P.S)
And if someone is disrespectful and bigoted because someone betrayed their culture and or is a foreigner in theirs then they should be ignored as an idiot. I don't know about you but I tend to ignore bigoted racist idiot's. Maybe you should to.
@LaDarkProphet, I’ve never condoned segregation during this conversation and have in fact stated making judgments based on someone’s differences is immoral, and everyone should celebrate and engage them. But your point is to entirely ignore them which is ignoring an integral part of a person. Something that has shaped their lives, thought processes, community, and to some extents physiology. I have argued for accepting people as they are, over your argument to ignore who they are for the communal human similarities. It’s tantamount to people who say they’re colorblind, which means they only see the parts they’re comfortable with and turn a blind eye to the others. My point is about understanding people feel different and have different cultures and that is ok. TBC.
It’s a noble endeavor to see everyone as equals, and I encourage that, but to do so means taking them as they are and accepting them, differences and all. Equality isn’t born from pretending we’re all the same, but accepting we aren’t while maintaining the understanding those differences are not a basis for hierarchy.
@LaDarkProphet, I agree racists and bigots shouldn’t be given a pulpit, and there are definitely some battles better left un-fought, but allowing racial injustices, be they micro aggressions or grandiose displays, to go unopposed only bolsters the offenders bravado to continue the behavior. It’s unfortunately a fine line dealing with racism and bigotry, and never an easy conversation.
@The Despondent, 1. Did you even read everything I posted?
2. "Equality isn't born from pretending we're all the same but accepting we aren't while maintaining the understanding those differences are not a basis for hierarchy."...
Incorrect. It is pretending we are all different same that breeds discontent. It is realizing that we are all the same that builds common ground and brings people together. You cannot unify human people based on supposed superficial differences. Equality is literally born from understanding and accepting that we are all the same. Has no one ever seen Martin Luther's I have a dream speech? That entire speech was about people being the same. It said absolutely nothing about independently celebrating our differences while supposedly also respecting those same differences as a way to unite. His entire speech stemmed from the idea that humans are the same, not different.
And yet here you are spouting again and again (TBC)
@The Despondent, (CON)
And yet here you are spouting again and again that humans ARE different and that humans should not only be viewed as different but should be separated, and celebrated, because of their differences. Yes you are actually advocating for separation, weather you want to admit it or not. By definition, advocating for people to acknowledge and celebrate their supposed differences you are separating people based on those said differences. That's just a fact. Yea sure you do add the pathetically weak conditions that this should be done under the condition of respect and understanding of other people's differences but at the end of the day you are still literally advocating for the division of the human race. That is what it means to have supposedly different cultures. As you staunchly repeat humans are so vastly different and have such vastly different "cultures" you are literally advocating for separate but equal. Again, with the pathetically weak condition of (TBC)
@The Despondent, (CON)
So long as their is mutual respect and understanding between the cultures, or tribes if you will. Deny it all you like but at the end of the day by definition that is what you are advocating for. That humans are so vastly different that they form their own little cliches, or cultures, and these cultures are so vastly different they NEED to be separated, so long as much mutual respect etc.
SMH. I cannot agree with that. I just can't. I'm siding with Martin Lurther King on this one. Humans can only come together when they realize they are the same, not because they are different. Culture is just history and it belongs to everyone, regardless if you think said history makes people so drastically different from one another as to call cause for separation. That's what different cultures mean, by definition. Separate.
@LaDarkProphet, I’m going to end my side of the discussion as succinctly as possible. I read everything you said, and chose to respond to the core message. MLK talked about equality by judging based on content of character, not the color of skin, I (in NO way comparing myself to him) said it’s immoral to judge people based on skin. He also did not advocate ignoring differences, but not making judgements based on them. I understand your side, and appreciate your passion for equality, but you and I are of two different minds and are at an impasse. I’ve enjoyed this debate today, keep up the good fight!
@The Despondent, Fair enough. Perhaps one day we will sit together at a bar and rant about inequality and just how fvcked the human race is. Cheers mate. Thanks for being respectful. Sorry if I got a little heated at times 🍻
Ah yes, the enraged/offended culture.
They left out the best part, his name is Cornelius Boots!
People hatin on his hat, people hatin on the people hatin on his hat... but no dick jokes??? That’s the true disappointment here
Shut your sjw hole, Dani.
Culture is ever evolving. It can only be healthy when cultures mingle, and make something new
Well I mean I assume that they white washed it bc well... It's kinda been happening for a bit now... Sooo yea
But the moral of the story is don't assume even tho it's kidna warrented haha
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