Inb4 all the anti-vaxxers on this app talk nonsense. Here is how th vaccine for covid was developed
The covid vaccine uses a special strip of rna, rna is the second step on the translation pathway from DNA-rna-proteins. This rna is taken up by your immune presenting cells, the cells that normally eat up bits of virus and express proteins that your body can recognize and make antibodies from. This rna for the vaccine codes for the spike protein, the machinery covid uses to enter your cell, and so when these cells take it up they express the spike protein, your body recognizes it as foreign, and builds antibodies and an immune response to it. And see the thing about rna is its very unstable, theres thousands of molecules in your body called rnase that are constantly trying to degrade rna so that random proteins that it doesn't want don't get made (it's also how a lot of viruses attack your cells so it's good to not just translate any rna willy nilly). So the hard part about making (1/2)
@jouze, (2/2) the vaccine is packaging and adding stabilizers to the rna so that it doesn't immediately get degraded by your body before your immune cells can express it to build a response. So they had to figure out the bodies tricks for how it keeps rna around like putting a cap on either end of the rna of some DNA. But the nice thing about using the rna is after it's message has been read is its naturally degraded by the body leaving no lasting effects. This technology has actually been in development for the past 20 years and pre covid they were nearing completion of some other rna based vaccines that used this packaging technology. And the reason they were able to make the vaccine so quick is they just took this already developed tech and changed the coding structure of the rna so it was for a protein specific to covid. But this delivery tech has been extensively tested and long term they've found no remains or lasting impressions left by it other than the response your body built
@jouze, yeah, and that’s why I’m holding out for the J&J live viruses vaccine.
@jouze, that sounds nice and all but what if it gives me autism?
jk id love to take it but it's not available to me yet
@jouze, thank you for the elaborate and concise explanation.
@jouze, to be fair, nothings logically wrong with knowing how rna works but being willing to take my own chances vs rushing in for a vaccine.
But your science was the smartest I’ve seen all covid. Thank you!
@jouze, science me harder, daddy
@orion55, yeah, it’s not that I’m against vaccines, I’m just weary that it came out so quickly.
@Toxia, but that's the thing though, the vaccine was able to have a fast turn around time because the package for it, the hardest part to develop, has been in development for the last 20 years. The only thing they really did to change it was change the sequence of the A,T,G aka nucleotides in the rna put in the package, all this does it change the resulting sequence of amino acids that is presented by your immune cells, but changes nothing about the way the vaccine affects your body so the tests that have been applied to this kind of vaccine are valid to know that it's safe long term
@InsaneAnimeCleavage, mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
@Toxia, I got mine and the only thing that happened to me is now I really wanna buy a Windows Surface Pro.
@A Deformed Penis, my friend got hers cuz she's a physical therapist, and didn't notice anything wrong besides a sore and a bit of a fever. Although she has been talking about making Bill gates ruler of the world a lot recently...
@A Deformed Penis, I just got dose 2 of Moderna about 2 days ago. Dose one: sore arm for a few days; dose 2 sore arm (more painful than round 1), and achy muscles about 11 hours after the shot for about 1 day. As a healthcare professional, I understand immunology and virology. I am no longer wearing a mask in public, nor encouraging any inoculated person to do such. Also, Hail Bill!
@jouze, we get it you’re pre med, I’ve just recently stepped down from my soapbox of molecular cell biology after 9 months of being able to predict covid but nobody remembering I said it..... ):
But actually tho. +1 point for bio
@Who Nose, but can't you still spread it?
@jouze, out of all of my Microbiology classes, immunology was 3nd hardest. (Microbial physiology 1st, Biochemistry 2nd)
Well done on your explanation. 👏🏽👏🏽
@jouze, vax companies are immune from lawsuits tho, and some have gotten diseases from the vaccines themselves. The flu vax is their best guess from last year and it's never right, so it doesn't protect anyone. The lack of accountability and the occasional harm that comes from certain vaccines is good enough reason for some to be worried. I'm not anti-vax, i just want vaccines that can be proven safe and effective. Until that happens, I ain't risking it for something that might not even benefit me.
@Jipz, true scientists will rarely (never) give absolute answers to yes/no questions. The straight answer is “yes, an inoculated person can still spread a disease”. However, the likelihood is so low that it is negligible. People with an agenda use that aspect of science to their advantage, and promote ignorant policy. Like Jim Carrey’s character in Dumb and Dumber, when told his chance of dating that attractive woman was one in a million; his reply “So you’re saying there’s a chance!”
Survivability rate of the virus from China is 99.98% for most people
@big freedom, I hear you, I did immunology for 6 months some years ago and came out honestly feeling like I didn't know anything more than I did going in. There's so many complicated and overlapping systems it makes my brain melt. Gotta give mad props to people who study immune disorders
@Good Pineapple Pizza, did you read my comment at all? I'm not talking about the flu vaccine, im talking about covid which fundamentally is VERY different from the flu vax. Because no part of the virus went into its development. There is 0% chance you can catch it from the vaccine because nothing from the vaccine was used, they just created a strand of rna that is identical to a tiny piece of the virus that on its own is entirely inert. This vaccine has been proven safe and effective. If you've never gone through and FDA iND approval process it is VERY difficult and stage 3 clinical trials are exceedingly thorough. So many drugs and treatments you don't know about never hit the market because they fail there. The packaging piece of the vaccine was proven safe with no long term effects years ago. And the rna piece is so unstable it has no way to have serious effects
@Who Nose, Well, you should. You could easily be one of the 4/100 people it doesn’t work for and there’s the issue of vaccine escape as well as the known South African variant that isn’t covered.
@jouze, so basically science says you should trust a thing with, under the best conditions, has a lower efficacy rate (95%) than your own immune system at 99.7%. Science also says that you still have to distance and wear a mask after being “vaccinated”. Funny how all the people pushing this bullsh*t have all found ways to not take it or exempt themselves from it lol.
@Kung Flu, 1. The efficiency rate is not comparable to the mortality rate, this is the dumbest comparison I have heard. The efficiency rate is how many people out of a trial got the virus. The important thing to note is that while a few people got the virus in the trials NONE of them went to the hospital. While normally the virus sends people aged 20-50 to the hospital in 5% of cases.
2. recommending still wearing masks is just scientists being safe. We don't know if once you are immune you can still carry enough of the virus to be infectious we just don't have the data yet. the point of the vaccine is to achieve herd immunity, and since a few people who have been vaccinated can still get the virus we need to ensure they don't go and spread it but as more people get vaccinated it won't matter because others are immune so in time hopefully we can remove those measures.
3. Wtf are you talkng about exempting themselves literally every politician and doctor involved has taken the vaccine
I’m anti vax because I hate people and want more of them to die
@BigJohnson86, COVID19 isn’t the virus that will get that done. We were promised a zombie apocalypse and all we got was a stupid mask mandate.
@BigJohnson86, That's the most logical argument I've heard for it so far!
@Hot Coffee, look I’m an electrical engineer with background in all different types of power production and a 9 year vet. I’m fvcking ready for a zombi apocalypse.
I'm pro vaccine but I say I'm anti Vax so I can weed out the people that say "me too" and then say "cool" and block them.
This is exactly what I hear when I talk to a contrarian. The best response is to play dumb and agree to everything they say... Takes the wind out of their sails when they don't get the confrontation they want.
Get this propaganda out of my funny.
@DarthPlaugeistheWise, I think it’s hilarious. Their making fun of idiots.
Buckle up kid, this is going to be a bumpy ride...
(Just waiting for the usual suspects to arrive.)
@Funny Pics Janitor, present
Having a needle phobia sucks, but still no excuse.
An idiot here has taken the pains of explaining (rather well) the reported theory* behind the (rna therapy) Covid-“vaccine,” yet failed entirely in shedding any light on the manufacturing process*, expedited lab findings*, or side effects*- the parts with which so many take issue and remain skeptical. Since no questions are allowed, skepticism is ridiculed, and pursuit of remedy for damages is forbidden, Pro-Vaxers (or BlindVaxers) will never come across as anything better than useful idiot lab rats— and at worst, faithful cult propagandists.
The “vaccine” should be made available to anyone who WANTS one.
If you find the Vaccine compelling, get it.
If you hope to shame others into following you, GFY. Fear is no excuse.
If you think forcing anyone to anything would make a good pass-time, reconsider while the option remains open to you.
Keep your decisions to yourself and you should be fine.
From the same folks on the corner telling kids “common, don’t be a square. Everybody’s doing it. Just this once. It’s totally safe, I swear.”
BlindVaxers are reminiscent junkies trying to get everyone else hooked so they feel better about their own decision. Losers never like to die alone.
“I’m a BlindVaxer because I know when BigBiz and BigGovt agree [on censoring questions, blocking lawsuits, and omitting contradictory data], I’m in good hands.”
100% of what “@Dyslexic eman resu” said 👆 is not only an accurate portrayal of pro-vaccine propagandists and BlindVaxers, it’s funny too.
Edit: fun research for BlindVaxers:
rna therapy vs vaccine.
If you want the “vaccine,” get it.
If you’re trying to shame others to follow you, GFY.
If you think supporting forced vaccinations doesn’t make you the bad guy, you will learn the hard way.
I love this game:
“I’m fully vaccinated, but I’m still obsessed with people who aren’t because they are putting me at risk because vaccines work so well”.
“Im anti-anti-vaccine because obviously the masks and lockdowns work”.
“Im pro-vaccine because big government and big pharma told me it’s safe and effective and they always have my best interest at heart and would never lie to me”
“Im pro-vaccine and I’m tired of telling people nicely to get one so I threaten them with violence and support forced vaccination of their kids, because I’m so compassionate”
“Im pro-vaccine so I can justify my insanity for the last 12 months”
“I’m pro vaccine because we don’t acknowledge the side effects or count vaccine deaths the same way we count covid deaths”
“iM pRo vAcCiNe cAuSe I LiKe tO cHaNgE mInDs bY bEiNgIng cOnDeScEnDiNg tO pEoPLe tO sHoW tHEm hOw SmArT I aM aNd hOw dUmB tHey aRe”
This game is so fun I hope we can play it forever!
@Dyslexic eman resu,
*Luke Skywalker voice*
“Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.”