Hey lady lady um... Wanna trade masks
I was born in the darkness...
Molded by it...
Talk about a face rash..
Just ditch the masks, a cough can't travel more than 7 feet anyway.
@Ajunta Pall, (disclaimer: I AM a biologist and DO take responsibility for any infections resulting from the PROPER following of this advice)
@Ajunta Pall, yeah but the droplets can survive on a surface for a lot longer hence the facial containment units.
@Runnin with scissors, or just wash your hands and don't touch your face?
@Ajunta Pall, EVERYONE READING THIS: Ajunta Pall doesn’t have any proof to support how claims and thus shouldn’t be taken seriously. Read on to confirm.
Dr. Fauci says ware a mask.
@MrTuxPenguin, Dr. Fauci is a lying asshole and can kiss this degree. This IS medical advice and I DO take responsibility for any death or injury resulting from the PROPER application of it.
@Ajunta Pall, i think there was a study done in japan says that micro droplet can stay airborne in enclosed environment for a long time.
You shouldn't give out vague advise like that to cause more confusion.
@Chick33n, "ditch the mask since it cant travel 7 feet"..
Have you seen a school? Or any place that human go?
@Chick33n, those places already have the proper distancing guidelines in place. A mask is redundant, not to mention that it is pointless, as the virus can infect through the eyes, and all known masks only work in one direction, protecting the user but nobody else.
@Ajunta Pall, https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
Thanks nurse Jackie but I think I’m gonna listen to the professionals on this one.
@MrTuxPenguin, I am a professional.
@Ajunta Pall, Are you only saying this because trump said so? You know trump doesn’t listen to science right? He doesn’t have facts.
@MrTuxPenguin, No, I am saying this based on the conclusions of my own research, just like the 5th dentist in "4 out of 5 dentists agree"
@Ajunta Pall, So you’re the margin of error.
What research/experiment do you do by yourself? I can send you tons of websites that say Ware a mask.
@Ajunta Pall, Have you heard about the Boeing plans crashing? They crashed because they didn’t have a redundant procedure as a BACKUP.
And yea masks only work one way. So, what we need, is for EVERYONE to ware them. Otherwise we have... people... like you infecting others.
It’s almost like we’re a society that should work together to achieve greater things.
@MrTuxPenguin, first, learn to spell "wear". I have seen the other research, and mine still concludes differently.
@MrTuxPenguin, again, it can be caught through the eyes, and it only protects the user, nobody else. As such, anything short of a gas mask is pointless and can be foregone.
@Ajunta Pall, The flat Earther’s research concludes differently as well. Didn’t make them right.
The eye has natural repellants that protect it. (Unless you rub it in).
Yes. That’s what I’m saying. If everyone wears a mask then we all become users. And we’re all protected. (Because the chance of contracting diseases through the eye is skin to none. Besides the eye can protect itself).
You’ve gotten covid already haven’t you.
@MrTuxPenguin, In fact, I have not. Both of my uncles have, but I know how to stay safe even without a mask.
@MrTuxPenguin, additionally, having chronic bronchitis due to an unfortunate event involving aerosolized talcum powder in my high school years, I am considered high risk if I do catch it.
@Ajunta Pall, Wow. Sounds like someone should WEAR A MASK.
Can you show me one, just one article that says that wearing a mask doesn’t help?
@MrTuxPenguin, as a matter of fact, I cannot. Even peer-reviewed ones with plenty of evidence get removed within 24 hours.
@Ajunta Pall, right...
Here’s some advice, get over yourself. It’s ok to be wrong. Just because trump said something doesn’t make it true. Follow The Wall Street Journal. They are pretty reliable. No they aren’t owned by the left that’s a lie. It’s actually owned by Rupert Murdock (yea that one). They do lean a little to the right so check it against the New York Times. They are very reliable. Won awards and uphold transparency and truth.
@Ajunta Pall, how about a sneeze? How far can that travel.
@Chick33n, you mean alive not airborne right?
@MrTuxPenguin, and fauci is a self admitted liar.
@MrTuxPenguin, not true about the Boeing planes. They've been crashing because of poor training. My uncle is a pilot for a major US airline. He flies Boeing planes. He has for over 30 years.
Essentially Boeing changed the way some of the systems on the plane worked and recommended additional training. The airlines and second and third world countries did not conduct that additional training. therefore when the pilots tried to correct what they thought was an error (And really wasn't), they actually crashed the plane.
@RogueKnight, The plane forced itself into a nose dive because the EMCAS software took over. The EMCAS system was designed so that when they put the new bigger engines on, the EMCAS system could read weather or not the plane was going to stall. It was only designed to read the pitot on the left though so when that pitot tube failed, it didn’t have the other (the right pitot tube) as a backup. No amount of training could of prevented that.
My brother works on planes. That out ranks your source.
@RogueKnight, Also reliable proof of Fauci admitting that or it didn’t happen.
Also pitot tube is the hose in the front of the plane that tells how fast you’re going. The EMCAS system read it as not going fast enough so nose dive for more speed.
@MrTuxPenguin, this was honestly painful. I'll only hit on the 4 in 5 orthodontists thing. The reason why they say this is false advertisement to get you to buy the product.
It's like an Oscar for a movie about a fish man having gay sex with a Muslim.
It's an attempt to make you not think about what you're doing. In most collectivist mindsets consensus is the strongest power. They can't legally say that 5/5 orthodontist degree because you start asking questions. Like who are these orthodontists, let's see who's on the payroll. So, to most people 80% consensus is astoundingly trust worthy and gets passed our critical mind.
Now. You say, all doctors everywhere in concert, are saying to wear a mask. Even when fauci himself backtracked on his original position about mask wearing.
Then after the new year the media calls for two masks. The CDC and fauci come out against it. Two days later the whole of medical science change their opinion over night.
@That one lurker,
Tldr: 4/5 doctors say to wear a mask
Now 4/4 doctors say to wear a mask
What has changed?
@Ajunta Pall, his brother works on plains, to prevent ware and tare
@That one lurker, Lurker! How are things. Sorry. I had to get into another fight.
When was it when Faici and the CDC backtracked? Was it when trump was in office? Was it because trump was making false claims and then put his people in charge so that the CDC can agree with him?
@MrTuxPenguin, oh this week he says wear a mask? Ok
@dj evolve fan club, Wanna show me a week where he didn’t?
@MrTuxPenguin, you're stupid and learn to spell if you want people to consider your opinions
Learn to spell if you want people to take your opinion seriously
@dj evolve fan club, Good chat. And great evidence. Really. Wow. You almost convinced me.
*Advice: Don’t start shjt if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@MrTuxPenguin, nah, it was around March are April. Fauci later said he was intentionally lying to the American people because they needed the masks. That came out roughly June or July.
Not everything Trump did in office was perfict, and you constantly bring him up let's everyone know you held him to the God like standards his supporters memed about.
You continuously bringing them up for no apparent reason does my troll the right reaction you're looking for.
I hope you seek help for your psychosis from the spicy Cheeto man.
As I put, you can't gain an over arching consensus from maturity rule. I.e. 4/5 comment.
I personally need to know the 1/5 dudes opinion to form my own.
Because there's a possibility that the other 4/5 are being payed, or have or ulterior motives.
I.e. trying to not cause a rush to buy things, letting more people get sick from Wal-Mart before getting masks or having guidelines to make suitable replacements.
@MrTuxPenguin, it's common sense look it up. How's that for a web link?
Let’s argue online, this will get my opinion across to others.....
@That one lurker, Is it more likely that the majority of people are wrong or the minority is?
You know who else is in the minority, Flat Earthers. They’re the 1/5 doctors. Same with Q Anon. We call those guys conspiracy theorists. And I have no problem believing in them I just need proof.
3 of you guys (you, DJ, and Ajunta) have not given me a single shred of evidence saying that Fauci said not to ware a mask, or that masks don’t work.
There are memes on here making fun of anti maskers that I know you’ve seen. Do you guys just ignore them? Do you ever think (maybe I am wrong)?
@TheMediocreHulk, Quarantine’s got me going crazy. I’ll be gone once things open up again don’t worry.
@TheMediocreHulk, I disagree😄
@dj evolve fan club, It’s not popping up. Should I try bing? I know Google is owned by the left right?
@MrTuxPenguin, I wear a mask. I even had n95 for a while. I wear gloves to pump gas and open doors. But it didn't make a difference when I got co vid from making out with my sister
@MrTuxPenguin, what I sent you was pretty long. I typed "fauci lied" in duck duck go. A browser that doesn't curate or track your web searches. Something that Google admits to doing.
I personally had to scroll to find the one "main stream" left wing source that tryed to down play it so that you could digest it easier.
Since some places do as bad as msn with opinion in the middle of the article but from the right.
@FAHhQ, 2-3 feet. Believe it or not, a cough travels further.
@dj evolve fan club, bro, how could you treat our mom like that, she's literally a cousin to me.
@RogueKnight, additional information can be found on AirplaneFriend's channel.
@That one lurker, You’re not gonna like this, but that webpage doesn’t exist. I even googled it and nothing popped up.
@That one lurker, my uncle's nephew's cousin's former roommate?
@MrTuxPenguin, bro. No joke? I'm looking at it now. Type the url?
@dj evolve fan club, yeah, you mean great grampa Jeb?
@That one lurker, the fifth doctor was voted out of his license due to the failings of democracy
@Ajunta Pall, 4/3 politicians that support the party, agree with this message.
@MrTuxPenguin, My uncle flew that model plane and went through hours upon hours of training on how to use that EMCAS system because it would take over and the pilot needed to trust it.
I noticed you said your brother works on planes but you did not say he worked on that specific plane. Given that my source has direct knowledge of that plane I think my source out ranks yours. Especially since my source knows exactly how that system works. With those planes that crashed the EMCAS worked as intended. A lack of training for the pilots cause them to not trust the system and take over. The EMCAS then tried to correct and the planes crashed.
@MrTuxPenguin, thought she admitted he lied to the American people about whether or not masks worked. All because they were trying to save masks for medical staff. Instead of coming out and telling the truth. Fauci is a liar. He admitted as much on national TV.
@FAHhQ, Last I checked, 4-5 feet, but that was before the pandemic
@MrTuxPenguin, ever since the 1930s, the minority has been more correct than the majority
@That one lurker, I read your comment on how to find it afterwards. I got it.
So, your biggest argument is that Fauci displayed the threat of the Corona virus (and masks) because at the time he didn’t know how bad it was in the US. And her down played it because they were gonna go out of stock (a reasonable thought).
Why do you still trust trump when the first sentence is “... while most member of the Trump regime have spread misinformation about Covid-19”. But somehow it’s only Fauci that gets roasted?
But about the article: it goes that Fauci knew about masks helping and only downplayed it. Then came out as heavily for it. Do you think Fauci should of told the whole truth 1st off and let medical workers go without masks? Or should he of done what he did?
@Ajunta Pall, Probably because he was claiming that masks don’t help. Going against evidence and other scientists.
@dj evolve fan club, omg same
@RogueKnight, The pilots weren’t told about the EMCAS system. It was a whole thing where Boeing had to pay to train the pilots and update the system, but didn’t (because of money) and then the second one crashed.
Also: so if fauci lied you’re must hate trump then right? He’s still lying.
@Ajunta Pall, ??!! This is a remarkable thought. Before the civil rights movement, before we knew about plate tectonics, before ball point pens, during the Great Depression...
You’re gonna have to explain this one to me. I’m so intrigued why you think that. Genuinely I am. Politics aside and everything.
@That one lurker, don't define Jeb's gender. It was fluid as the mighty Mississip
@MrTuxPenguin, go to bed already. Im out of popcorn and tired (and a little cranky, maybe) 😄🌈🐬💩👍🦄🤕🎱
@MrTuxPenguin, ok, let's put one fact on the table you glanced over here.
You had to use a whole new BROWSER to read a msn NEWS ARTICAL!!
I don't like caps locking things, but before we start down this road. Could we at least admit you're not being fed the whole truth on the situation? If you typing up this in Google got you no where then what else do you not know about?
My argument is that Fauci was introduced as a medical professional. He said masks was ineffective. After a week or two he changed his tune. After that flip flop it was socially taboo to say he was wrong or say he said he was wrong. The only difference in between that time was companies voluntarily switching their textile factories from making pillows into masks. So it wasn't that the science changed it was because their was people he deemed needed it more. His full transcript is a lot worse, it's pure utilitarianism.
As I said before, I gave you one of the only left wing sources that was talking about this.
@MrTuxPenguin, bro, civil rights wasn't the majority opinion, plate tectonics was discovered by people doing research, a dude made a revolutionary pain. The individual is the smallest minority. It takes the conversation of many ones to change a mind.
Some people believe in absolute truth, a corrupted concept of truth, because truth is the truth. These absolutists believe they hold The Truth, a form of corrupted truth, since truth is true.
I am a person, the smallest minority, I'm talking to you, on an app filled with other minorities. We form a group of minorities, but each of us are ones multitude infinitum. Each a one. That is truth.
A person that is willing to stand against this truth, a corrupted form of truth, is not wrong. They are one of infinitum, ones that become two or three. Groups that name them selves Black or White. They come to one, and demand I bow.
*Last act of defiance.png
Thank you, this has been my Ted talk on freedom and individuality. Kill a comi for your mommy.
@That one lurker, Ok, so same as duck duck go, when typed into Google, the article pops up under Gizmodo. It’s the same article. No clue why.
Ok so you’re mad at Fauci not telling the whole truth. I can see your point on that. Yea he was brought on to tell the whole truth but didn’t want to cause a panic. Was that the right thing to do? You say no.
Under the same reasoning, you’ve gotta dislike trump for doing the same thing but worse.
Trump has been recorded saying he wanted to downplay the whole pandemic thing. (And I’m not going to mention that I think trump pushed Fauci to downplay it because that’s a personal opinion).
So yes Fauci went back on what he said (because he thought he didn’t want a mask shortage). He has since told only the truth and kept the people updated
Now when we have evidence saying masks work why do people still not wear them? I think it’s because trump refused to and people blame Fauci for a scapegoat.
@That one lurker, You’re assuming that truth is corrupted because it is the truth of the majority.
This is literally what democracy is based on, that the masses will find the truth (thanks to individuals).
But it can go wrong as well, look at the Holocaust. We can pretty much pin it on one person (Hitler) and when the whole counter followed him, we got a genocide and another world war.
When the guy at the mall starts screaming and pooping himself, we don’t look at him with admiration, we think he’s crazy.
In 1964: 58% of people were pro civil rights according to PBS. And those numbers are skewed because they mainly asked white people.
By 1965 it was 76% pro civil rights.
The only way we have moved forward as a species is because we have devolved societies where people work together to build a better tomorrow.
Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk.
@That one lurker, P.S. even if we take you as an example, You’re living in a society where other people have built the foundations for you live. Laws so that you don’t get killed. Police to enforce those laws. Government to pay those police. Grocery stores to buy You’re food. A job to give you money. A Carpenter for the tools you buy. The hospital you were born at. You are part of this society and there’s nothing you can do to not be (short of living in the woods, building your own cabin, but even then).
You can attribute great inventions to a single person, but those people were taught by teachers, and read books from other scientists so that they could gain that knowledge to make that next step. All of us stand on the shoulders of those who came before us.
@MrTuxPenguin, I know what's going on with your stuff, it's honestly French to me unless I'm looking at it.
I'm not made that he lied, I understand that in leadership positions you need to make a rough call from time to time. My problem lies with the way the media acted, both during and after that point onward. Treating him as the man that could do no wrong.
He has lied since, and admitted it
Onto Trump again, at the time the interview was being ran and when he first made his speech we all knew basicly nothing.
I exspect Trump to lie like Fauci did to keep people calm. It is his place as a statesmen to keep people calm and rational. Regardless of what you think his job was.
@MrTuxPenguin, you misunderstand. The truth is different from truth. The truth is corrupted by the absolutism of The, saying there is a singular truth is true, but saying you have The truth is a misnomer, attempting to deceive. I.e. God is Truth, The Truth is not his words, since his words is Truth.
Democracy is one the most corrupt form of government.
Change my mind
We cannot just pin it to one person, an act like that from a people that inherently view themselves as The German like with a person that views themselves as Black or White. Hitler had a lot of help from other German like Goebbels. But that standing outside of the philosophical notion I'm discussing.
To your added post, saying that we live in a society is to magnify the group and diminish the individual. The man that laid the first brick in your city has a name, he had a family, they had kids. The wheel turns.
@That one lurker, Ok I can see how you’re mad at the media for how it portrayed Fauci. But you did just say that you understand where he was coming from. So that shouldn’t influence your opinion on him moving forward. He has done a lot afterwards to help maintain this pandemic.
@MrTuxPenguin, But French thinking doesn't care about the brick layer, they care about us, and we are Union.
F@cken tripe that had some points, but got picked up by the father of genocide, Karl Marx. A privileged millennial that took French f@ckery and made it more political. Be cause he loved the French revolution so much, he wanted it in every country.
We are dealing with his bullshįt now and days.
The Germans delt with it in Hitler, Stalin in Russia and Mao in China.
@MrTuxPenguin, wait, maintaining this pandemic? You know about him funding the labs the virus "came from?"
One half a joke
The other fact
You decide which is which
@That one lurker, But you’re right I completely missed what you were trying to say.
So if someone says they have the truth, they are trying to deceive, but what if that isn’t their intention? And wouldn’t that only apply in certain situations? I.e When recounting history there is an absolute truth. There was only one way that history played out. Now we might not know the absolute truth, but the truth is, the railroads were built.
There are examples where there is an absolute truth and those are usually called facts. (The sky is blue, a rock will fall towards the center of gravity...)
But when you get into semantics, I personally like to follow Gorgeous the philosopher. He claimed that there was no absolute truth and everything is just a matter opinion.
@MrTuxPenguin, I may be reading this wrong, so if you'd like to explain your position.
"... Laws so that you don't get killed."
@That one lurker, Yes because we believe in something more than ourselves. The man who lays the brick does so because he wants to provide for his family. It is his role in the nuclear family. And his job to build a house provides a role in the functioning of a society. If he only saw himself as an individual and not part of something else, something greater, than he wouldn’t be laying bricks. He would be by himself providing for only himself.
@That one lurker, Laws so you don’t get killed, it’s against the law to kill someone. We believe in this made up thing (the law not to kill people) in order to live in a society.
@MrTuxPenguin, as I say, absolute truth is a corrupted form of truth. Because truth is absolute. Truth does not need things to quantify or qualify it validity, only proof.
The reason why this is important during a discussion about individualism. Words are being molded to mean parallel things.
Take for example the concept of Justice. Justice has an absolute meaning just like truth. You add things to it and you corrupt it. I.e. social justice, racial justice, the people's justice. Each different depended on the person for interpretation truth if true has no interpretation, because it is truth.
The things you described are truth, that was discovered to be true. Even if one is shifting, as the example of the sky. Blues fading to warm reds and yellows. The fact is true, but I'll defined.
Gorgeous was a fool, and sophistry is a poison. Listing to enough ideas breeds an option that words need a definition for society to function and that changing your opinion based on popular demand is dumb
@That one lurker, And don’t get me wrong, group think it’s a bad thing. But group think isn’t a group thought. One person came up with the ideal and the rest go along with it because they’re scared to say otherwise. That’s group think, it’s just the ideal of one person and that ideal carries all their biases. If the initial ideal was “enslave black people” group think is everyone going along with it. A democracy is what happens when someone says “no there’s another way. Let’s pay them”. And boom, capitalism is born.
Conflict for all of its faults, is great because we come out of it better. Look at the conversation we have had now. We could of stayed in our bubbles but since we branches out, started an argument, we can see the other side, empathize each other, and come to a solution that helps both of us.
@MrTuxPenguin, i was going to comment on something else, but reading this gives me pause.
Define a democracy.
@MrTuxPenguin, trump did more for this country than the last presidents ever did. The current one is already proving how badly you idiots fvcked up.
@MrTuxPenguin, when the whole thing started the WHO said it couldn't be spread from person to person, later fauci said don't wear masks they don't help, then back tracked and said to wear them, the only said not to so we could save them for medical workers, then he said no to double masks, and now he is saying double masks is not a bad idea, that man has done about as many flips as a trapeze artist.
@GunLovingMerican, idk what Trump did or did not do for your country, but I know the media targeting him for views was a thing. Also with the science, the head of cdc and fauci spoke against him because he brought in other scientists and listened to many opinions, before making decisions.
Also covid is the flu. It's less deadly, but more contagious. Governments everywhere using it to make people compliant.
@Hesediel, not sure about fauci, but Theresa Tam (Canada's fauci) works for the WHO and has signed non disclosure on anything about China and covid.
@That one lurker, I’m using it in the term of a group of people coming to a decision together. (I know the actual definition is more complex) but basically majority rule when everyone can voice their opinion.
@GunLovingMerican, Name one. One thing trump did that was beneficial. We can discuss it.
@Hesediel, I’m gonna need receipts for that. (Articles and such).
Here’s my receipt. (Pay close attention to the 5th paragraph).
@werp zerp snickel, Yea the media didn’t like trump because trump was just lying all over the place. Saying absurd things and the media just called him out on it. Then he claimed the media was fake and owned by the left.
@MrTuxPenguin, here is for fauci flip floping, I even got you three of them, however you can't copy from the comments so good luck I guess
And here is one from CNN
For more just Google fauci says don't wear masks, as for the WHO I guess I got that slightly wrong in the fact that they said there is no clear evidence of human to human transmission but here is their tweet
@MrTuxPenguin, and if you want to point out history in the medical field, I cant seem to find anything to suggest fauci has participated in any studies since the 1980s
that is not to say he hasn't done some great things bit I think some of 1980s medicine is out of date, and if reading other people's papers and research on your own time makes you qualified to that degree then I shall be patiently waiting for my degree in astronomy, as well as biology.
@Hesediel, So we’ve kinda moved on from fauci. The ruling being he downplayed masks to save them for medical workers. We’re discussing if that was the ‘correct’ thing to do. Thoughts? And how do you view trump who continued to lie about masks?
Also, to your astronomy degree mention, yes you can learn things on your own. The problem is that degrees confirm it. I know carpentry like no other, but I didn’t go to school for it So work places don’t trust me. But don’t let me get started on how bad schools are. Whew.
@MrTuxPenguin, I mean, if he wanted to save them for medical workers he should have just said so, and encouraged people to wear cloth masks instead of lying and saying they don't work so I guess my view is that he was either wrong (which happens to everyone) or he lied which he should not have done. As for Trump I don't remember seeing anything on him lying about masks, what did he say? I know he has a tendency to be long winded and exaggerate some things but I haven't really seen anything about him lying.i try and stay away from most news channels, because they are all biased to some degree in one direction or another and will selectively report details to make their "side" look better.
@Hesediel, I see where you’re coming from, but telling people not to panic, causes a panic. It think he he didn’t flat out lie, he did say they offer little protection, but it was a hard decision either way. He doesn’t deserve the hate republicans give him. Remember, he said that in the early days of Covid as well. It went wide spread as it is now.
Trump has always been against wearing a mask until the summer came. Read the article I linked below. It’s a good read. Good timeline and quotes from trump.
This is interesting to read. See how Britain sees us.
But I’m also curious, you don’t trust Fauci sure, but why not everyone else saying that masks are good?
@MrTuxPenguin, I'm not saying masks aren't good, or that they are in effective, but I don't think they work as well as people say due to the fact that people don't clean and sanitize them after every use they stuff them in their pocket or glove box and that diminishes the protection they may give, also I believe the use of masks should be up to each buisness or city for outdoors to enforce instead of it being mandated at the state level. Even here in Michigan there is a huge difference between say Lansing which is super busy, and columbiavill where I live which is very rural and it is rare even in buildings to come within like 15 feet of someone else. Fauci probably doesn't deserve that hate that some people give him but some people seem to think he is infallible and give him too much praise. As for Trump I haven't seen anything where he said you shouldn't wear a mask, he seem to me to be more in the boat of wear them if you want but it shouldn't be forced.
@MrTuxPenguin, as you said with fauci, I think the same applies to Trump, he doesn't deserve the hate people give him, he may not be the most well spoken person, I personally think he acts like an ass most of the time, but he has done some really good things for this country such as doing away with nafta which caused the economy to boom, and project warpspeed which gave us a covid vaccine in record speed. But most news outlets would rather cherry-pick quotes that make him look bad. I haven't seen him implement any policies that where super bad and no one can seem to point me towards one that doesn't have a good reason behind the bad apperance.
@MrTuxPenguin, (sorry I'm getting kind of long winded here and this is hard to do by typing it out.) In the line of bad policies, I don't know how familiar you are with Michigan and our governor, Whitmer, but she implemented a policy to house covin patients in nursing homes (not even just elderly patients like they did inpatients. Which is bad enough, but even accept regular covid patients)(hard to find much on it cause of another executive order that was about the same as new york).
She then suspended the freedom of information act so that she doesn't have to release the number of deaths that occoured from this.
She has also kept declaring a state of emergency to push through executive orders, one site shows a total of 109 orders. So I've been disinclined to take most "officials" at their word.
@Hesediel, So I haven’t heard much on Michigan. Only that the proud boys tried to kidnap the governor once. So I can’t speak to that. (I heard mayor Cuomo did the same?) but in the first article I sent you, trump tried to downplay the numbers of infected and deaths from Covid as well.
As for NAFTA, he did repeal it, but replaced it with the USMCA. It’s pretty much the same agreement as NAFTA.
SOX has spread across The world I see.
Beefy carts in Africa.