One time, I was watching Supernatural and House on Netflix, switching between the two depending on my mood. I got to an episode of Supernatural where Dean mocks Sam by calling him House.
Then I put on the next episode of House, which happened to have Jared Padalecki as the patient.
@I Are Lebo, you might have simply started dozing off...
@Empshok, no, he was playing a gay man with HIV who falls ill while in-line skating.
@I Are Lebo, who keeps downvoting you?
@Empshok, everyone that knows him
@Empshok, Gothem and Datkblackninja13
Not sure what bug they have up their asses.
@Gothem, you’re a douchecanoe
@I Are Lebo, btw, any time you want a theological discussion, I welcome it. Don't hesitate to be as harsh as you wish. For me to claim to have all the answers would be arrogant and ignorant. I only ask that you approach our arguments with a desire for truth. I also suggest we try to find a common ground to start from.
@I Are Lebo, are you sure that was Jared Padalecki who played the gay dude? I remember that guy but I think that was the guy who plays Dexter from the show with the same name.
edit: confirmed. Actor played by a dude named Matthew John Armstrong. But I was wrong about him being in Dexter.
@I Are Lebo, wouldn't it be totally awesome if we could discover we both had it wrong? The revealing power of argument combined with a pure search for truth could overwhelm bias and lead to pure joy.
And I genuinely believe that God waits for us there. I am so confident that God is real that I invite anybody to challenge him directly until you truly know Him.
@Empshok, well, when it comes to theology, I’m mostly of two minds. Most of the arguments that I have, and honestly, most of the vitriol, is related to organized religion. I’m most familiar with the Bible and Christianity, but I am opposed to every organized religion I have ever been exposed to, including the one from my own family.
There’s another aspect to theology, and that’s basic belief structures. When it comes to those, my attitude is much simpler. When it comes to how we feel about life and everything in it, it’s not really productive to try shïtting on someone else’s beliefs. That doesn’t really ever lead anywhere useful. Having said that, beliefs don’t exist in a vacuum, and a bad belief structure is going to lead to more bad beliefs. Mostly that just boils down to whether or not I am going to take someone seriously.
I don’t see a meaningful difference between someone believing in an all powerful all benevolent deity and someone that believes the earth is flat. Both beliefs
are contradicted by reality, and so anyone that believes either is just someone whose point of view isn’t credible. Doesn’t mean I have to or am justified in being cruel or abusive towards those people, but I’m certainly not taking any advice from either, on any topic.
Most of the theistic beliefs not based on an ‘official’ religion that I have heard of are either directly contradicted by reality or are entirely useless from a pragmatic point of view.
I believe in skepticism. I want to believe as many true things as possible and as few false things as possible. Believing in things because they make you feel better is nothing more than self-deception in my eyes.
@I Are Lebo, what do you typically do to determine whether something is truth or not?
@Empshok, I examine the evidence that supports the conclusion that either the something is real or the concept is accurate.
I’m not entirely sure what you mean by truth, though. Everything we ‘know’ is only a matter of certainty by degree. I cannot be 100% certain that I’m not a brain in a vat being fed a simulated experience. So my certainty is a measure of how much I can know something.
@Empshok, is there a follow-up coming, or….?
@I Are Lebo, yeah, sorry. My life is very busy lately. I've been working 15 hour shifts and watching loud hyper kids on my days off. If it takes me awhile to respond, that's why. Today is unfortunately no exception but I'll try to respond as soon as I can.
@Empshok, no worries. Whenever you got time