I've noticed my job hasn't tried increasing starting pay by a single cent.
@ThePandaPool , what about offering bamboo? Pandas love that shjt
@ThePandaPool , my job increased base pay 15%, and added a $2000 retention bonus, on top of our regular yearly bonus of $1000.
@AverageIdiot, my industry is pretty much starting everyone at top pay plus a sign on bonus. I went from $70k last year to $150k this year.
Well, if the federal government would stop subsidizing unemployment.
Those states that have started refusing the federal subsidy have seen a significant increase in employment.
@RogueKnight, why would someone get a job and go to work when the government will pay you more to stay at home and do nothing?
@RogueKnight, in California (I know), people were still getting their usual unemployment, plus something like $300 extra per week. I don't understand how the government hasn't realized that is more than the average minimum wage employee makes by working. I know several people that aren't going back to work because they will lose money. So dumb.
edit: I also don't understand how when the government gave my business the all clear to re-open, some employees turned down my offer for remeployeement, but were still able to collect the money.
@Stealthnuker, I live in California as well. And I think this is a push by the feds to get minimum wages increased in order to get people back to work.
@RogueKnight, it could be. $300 is what it was or maybe currently is. At the start of all this it was $600 per week plus let's say another $275 for a part time minimum wage employee. Thats $1750 every two weeks. A friend of mine went from making $800 every two weeks to $1750 to not work during covid. I'm convinced some government dude was like "oh man this covid thing sucks. Let's give them what they were probably making before they lost their job. Let's say, $600/week" ugh. Sorry, rant over.
@Stealthnuker, you comment does not fall on deaf ears. And you're right. It was $600 at first.
There’s a large scale labor strike starting Oct 15th, if anyone is interested. look it up, they have a website.
Stop all unemployment benefits. That will get people of their lazy butts.
@Zero the fallen, Interestingly, the unemployment rates seem to be the same in the states that offer extra and that don’t.
Not what one would expect…
@Zero the fallen, either that or pay them more. People are getting really sick of their work just being used to make billionaires obscenely wealthy while wages dont go up in any way proportional to the increasing cost of housing or education or other expenses. Mass refusal to work for untenable wages is honestly the best shot society has at forcing the rich to be ever so slightly less rich and paying their people more. Removing benefits and forcing everyone back to work so they can at least eat something just helps them get exploited more. Not talking about just minimum wage either. Even for people who make decent money, it is still true that jobs are paying, proportionally, way less than they used to across the board relative to the cost of everything else. It's why the rich are so much richer these days.
@Zero the fallen, why would anybody want to work 40 hours for essentially a $1 raise
@danciestlobster, right but then there are people like me, an electrician who has worked the whole time. Now, 16 year olds at McDonald's are making as much as me. My job requires schooling to be licensed, and I currently go to a trade school. My boss isn't rich by any means, he only has 4 employees. It's not like he can give everybody raises to match the multi-billion dollar companies.
not to mention that my tax dollars are what are paying for their lazy a$ses to stay home.
@danciestlobster, so why then did they all keep working then until the government just agreed to pay them not to work? They will go back as soon as they aren’t getting paid to not work. I don’t blame them for not working now. However, more billionaires were made during this time of not working then ever before. Them not working will only cause more companies to automate their jobs out of existence.
@Petersquatch, I wouldn’t. I don’t blame low wage workers for taking advantage rn. I blame the government for incentivizing it
@Petersquatch, every place around me has signs for starting at $15 or more an hour
@danciestlobster, because of debt, and because people like you don’t understand basic economics.
@CrazyRightWinger, I believe the unemployment equals about $16 an hour, so it would be 40 more hours a week for a pay cut
@Petersquatch, I mean if you want to be a slug and mooch off the system when you are able to work then more power to you
@BigJohnson86, oh yeah I totally agree. People wont not work if it means they get paid 0 dollars cause they have no choice in the matter. Unemployment benefits are what give workers enough money to survive while waiting for a job willing to pay them better. But yes, take away the benefits and they go back to work right away. That definitely fixes the labor shortage, but it doesn't help workers get paid enough to live
@Child Slapper, a story for you, perhaps you can help me with my apparently less than basic understanding of economics. I work for a company where part of my job is finding ways for the company to be more efficient and save money in day to day operations. For each of the last two years, I did projects that saved the company over $1 mil each year, so in total we are now at $2mil in savings per year for the company. I get paid a tiny percentage of that savings. In response to my saving so much, I got a bonus free backpack from the company. The ceo got over a 1 million dollar bonus. I haven't met the ceo, and he had nothing to do with my projects. Does that seem reasonable to you? How, with your better understanding of economics, does that make sense/why should the ceo get so much money for work he had nothing to do with? Help me understand
@danciestlobster, When it comes to the increasing cost of things like housing, companies should only increase their wages to match a percentage of that increase, not all of it. IMO that increase should be related to inflation and some other related market costs. The reason for this is because some of the increase in cost of things like housing are due to government building restrictions creating more artificial scarcity. Restrictions for health reasons are good but sometimes these restrictions are for aesthetic reasons. A good example of restrictions raising housing costs is a comparison of SF Cali. and Houston TX. SF costs are way higher despite many similarities between the cities. While I understand that corporate greed can wrongfully hamper wages, I do not believe companies should just foot the bill for these high costs like housing when the government affects the market in such a way for poor reasons.
@Augustweather, agreed. This is certainly a bigger issue than just corporate greed. Government is a factor, general population of different areas with supply and demand is a factor, lots of moving parts here. But something (several somethings) are definitely wrong and not getting any better fast, and corporate greed is not helping
@Petersquatch, if a company can't compete by offering strong wages, sounds like capitalism is working as intended. survival of the fittest.
@danciestlobster, you have the complete ability to negotiate your pay or choose a different job. Not my fault you only receive a small cut. It’s yours. It’s only not fair because you let it happen to you. Basic economics: you earn a portion of what you generate. And your bosses earn some too. Therefore, the more employees you have, the more you make. Simple. You are not the boss, so you are jealous.
Here’s a story for you. I am one of the newest employees for my company and I made myself useful by doing everything for everyone. I reached out to every higher up to let them know what I can do for them. I continue to learn more in my off-hours and when it came time to give nice salary positions, it was the most experienced employee, and me. Others, like you, are jealous. But which of us spent time learning negotiation? Who stayed late every day? Who was called office bitch? Me. Now who’s the bitch when I’m in charge and tell even some corporate employees what to do?
Stop being a victim.
@danciestlobster, part 1 of your dilemma, is thinking the CEO does nothing. People are paid based off of responsibility (generally). Part 2, is assuming its all because of you. I'm sure you work hard and do a great job, but so do a bunch of others at every job. You did a job you were hired to do. You agreed to the wage. If the company gave you, what you saved then, then they saved nothing.
That's not true, they said "we're all in this together" on Twitter
Sean’s got the right idea
Still better than Leftists, Liberals, and SJWs combined.
@Cave Dweller, because no right wing took the benefits and worked the whole time instead, right? Not a single one?
@Einhardt, ha ha ha, f*cking brainless. That’s irrelevant, you f*cking twat. Enjoy your day. Idiot.
@Cave Dweller, wow. With a comeback like that, you should look up the word irony. Apparently I stuck a nerve with how aggressive you became so fast.. It's always entertaining to see someone break so quick and name-call instead of give an actual response.
If you can't see how my reply was relevant, maybe do some critical thinking.
@Einhardt, @Einhardt, ha ha ha f*cking “comebacks.”
Ha ha ha, “how aggressive you become.”
Another f*cking child.
“Critical thinking”? What f*cking “nerve” could you have “struck,” you f*cking twat? Of course, you’re entertained. The simplest things confuse you. Are you going to follow me around like a f*cking puppy or get twisted f*cking homosexual like your mates on this app too?
Here’s some “critical thinking” for you. You have no idea what those words mean outside of your High School education— also a product of Leftist Liberal “Social Justice.”
Enjoy the rest of your day.
@Cave Dweller, please keep it up. You're just furthering my point 😂
Run by Leftist Liberal “Social Justice Warriors.”
Same crowd running DC.