And that's a fact. I used to be a busboy at a local restaurant. Waiters/waitresses/bartenders got paid $2/hr.
The shjthead owner actually sat and calculated the average amount of tips they make in a year, and started giving them what equates to minimum wage based on that number.
You know why you get crappy service everywhere nowadays? It's cause everybody's elders have warned kids that working in food service/retail is a shjt show. Nobody wants those jobs anymore, for good reason.
@GayShjtSniper, it also doesn’t help that people treat retail/food employees like the scummiest garbage just because they can and for some bizarre reason we don’t slap these people across the face whenever they start being asshats
@eleven, yeah people have no decency any more and it’s just gotten worse. And worst of all they think you can just fix everything because you work there!
@GayShjtSniper, if I get a good caring waiter or waitress I always tip heftily. After all, I could have made food at home. I came for the experience and if you get me a great one you’re liable to get a $100 tip for a $50 meal.
It should be the other way. Peter saw better without the glasses.
@dicsnot, yeah but those who lack context use it this way. I've probably seen it 20% incorrectly, 80% correctly so I just forgive it.
@18bluecat, idk man the number of waitresses I saw getting sexually harassed still baffles me. Hard to put a price on having your ass grabbed or hit on by 60 year olds. Hell I was also sexually harassed by customers. Lonely horny older women can be quite aggressive and having to just keep a smile and navigate that shjt was hardly worth it. I was making like $250 in cash tips on average and I really feel sorry for those who took my place. If they paid a living wage that smile wouldve been a flat face and the response would almost always be "I dont need or want this. I would like to to stop but if you choose to continue you wont be welcome here anymore". The thing is returaunts don't want that because waiters are servers the experience is being waited on and lip from someone like that can really piss some people off. I've seen it happen so idk. I really dont ever want to go back.
also give the restaurant an opportunity to pay minimum because tips are good.
@Runnin with scissors, I meant I forgive the meme misuse.
Most people that make tips are happy making tips, they tend to make way more than minimum wage
@officercoolguy, a while back, I was making about $15/hr and my sister was bringing home more than me as a waitress. You can definitely get nice money with tips.
@officercoolguy, I liked the money but the actions I took felt very degrading. I make around $3 an hour less now but I wont go back to being a bartender/waiter.
If the waiter/waitress really put in work and made fun conversation then they deserve at least 15-18% for dealing with such a demanding work environment.
One time I was on a double date and people who sat after us got their food first, so we asked the waiter where our food was and he said "it's probably in the kitchen" so we each left him a quarter for a whole dollar tip. Snarky little bítch the whole night.
@twopotatoes, silent trolls lurk from the bottom of the bottom
@twopotatoes, nah that’s decent service. I too more like 30 if they are good. Had a dude bring me a cup of chili for free at a strakhouse one time cuz he insisted we should try it. Holy shjt that was good. Dropped 30 on a 50 dollar bill. Gotta reward the good ones
@twopotatoes, my wife and I had terrible service one night, sat after people entering later, 45 minutes to place an order. Our meal was free, our server got 0 tip, but the server across the place got $50, because they watched how bad it was and were trying to help us even though they were also busy.
@twopotatoes, 15-18% is for not good service. 20%+ is for good service. They live on the tips you know?
@thatoneguymaybe, why would I give 15-18% for not good service, that's when they get less. 15-18% is for decent or better than just good, 20% is for great. I'm Jewish man, my dad brought me up like this. At least you're not a silent dv'r, respect for that
@twopotatoes, I don't know why you were raised that way, but 20% is the accepted minimum for good service. Anything below that is for less than good service.
I worked as a server for years, and I know a lot of them. Not only is that the accepted minimum, but it's an insult to receive less than 20% when good service has been provided.
I usually tip 25% for good service, because I know they only make their money from tips, since I lived that life.
If the service was less than good, it's usually 18%, but I never go below 15%.
Trust me, the majority of servers will know the difference, and take something away from it. Either "I need to do better" or "That person is a dick".
Just something for you to think about. Maybe you don't care what the servers think, or them getting paid, but if like to think you could care.
Of course, I'm a vocal person, and I normally tell someone when I have beef with them. I respect your keeping this civil, and I understand that you can be raised a certain way
@thatoneguymaybe, I respect you voicing your thoughts in a respectful way man, no insult or disrespect taken to me. I was raised pretty Jewish, not Orthodox but celebrated everything. My dad is very Jewish in the sense he had his Bar Mitzvah and practices holidays, as well as following the stereotype of being very stingy and penny pinching. My mom is not Jewish, or at least not following along until their marriage, but once divorced she has always been dirt poor, so pretty much both sides of my immediate family kept it to 15-18% maximum. I usually would leave 18% as a regular and 20% if I felt it was above average, but it kinda wavers all around depending on service and environment. I genuinely didn't know otherwise, so I don't mind upping the tips from here on now that I know.
@twopotatoes, Hey, I completely understand the past, my family raised with more penny pinching kind of parents as well!
I'm a frugle person, so I typically want to save my money.
I would of course prefer to give much less, from that mindset.
So I understand why you would even think that way.
Thanks for keeping the peace my man! Have a good one!
@thatoneguymaybe, you do the same bud! Peace and love here and everywhere 🤙
'It's the Legacy of Slavery': Here's the Troubling History Behind Tipping Practices in the U.S. great Time article!
@sicksadworld, That article is misleading trash! They try to equate practices that happened post slavery in a few states, to restaurants with no sourcing to back that up.
They make it sound like it's slavery, or making slavery live on.
Businesses found a way to make someone work for their money(provide quality service, and you get quantity money), and it's similar to something done in the past to poor people(it wasn't just ex-slaves working those jobs), well it's the modern day version then!