Ya that doesn't matter it's still a really awkward question. Guys don't compliment each other like girls sometimes do just saying oh you are so pretty
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, imagine if guys complimented each other on their picture like girls do. "oh my god so hot not even fair, self esteem gone, boy you're stunning, you're just perf"
@Invalid Chicken, Its scary that you just said pretty much exactly what I comment on pictures. HOW DO YOU DO IT
@Invalid Chicken, ha! GAYYYYYYYYYYY!
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, meh. Guys who are secure about their sexuality as a straight male have an easier time of talking about it. It's not like it matters if you think they are or not. There's a huge difference between primary attraction and primary sexual attraction. The first one is the one in question.
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, what? You mean lie about their friends behind their backs while being nice to them in person?
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, My guy friends will say "Ohh! He's attractive. I would go gay for that him!"
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, I don't see anything wrong with completing guys like that other than societies obsession with it labeling you as 'gay'. Personally I think that it would be a good thing if it was normal, it would give guys higher self esteem. And because of that external form of praise, guys wouldn't have to over inflate their egos to feel good about themselves. Guys should have just as much encouragement as girls. I think the assumption that guys are naturally self assured and confident is largely mistaken and should be corrected.
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, girls can pretty much hug, kiss, and what not and never be called lesbo, us guys just, won't, and can't do that
@theophilus, No guys wouldn't get encouragement by acting like girls. True men have a sense if comradery that transcends something as low, base, and irrelevant as appearance, and transcend to their ability to enact great works upon the world. The desire for Instant gratification is a downfall in today's society and spreading it is like the spreading of a plague. HOO-AH!
@Jedi Reynolds, Do you even know what secure means? Here's a few synonyms: Protected, stable, guarded, unmoving. If a straight man finds a male attractive in any way, it means that they are capable of deviation in their sexuality, and are there for unstable and insecure in their sexuality.
@Frampt, I meant mentally secure. You feel like you can't because society says that would make you gay, but doesn't do the same for women. Why? Because it's backwards logic. There's a difference between finding someone attractive and being able to tell if they have attractive qualities. The second one is the only one in question here.
@Frampt, you consign to traditional gender roles then? Wake up. There aren't even two genders anymore and there are not roles for any of them.
@Jedi Reynolds, I wasn't aware humans evolved to the point where XX and XY are the only combinations of gender-determining chromosomes, unless you're talking about the XXY, XXX, XYY, and X0 birth defects, in that case its a shame they were born that way. Unless you're talking about demi-sexual pan-romantic other kin, in which case you'll find more friends on Tumblr. Wake Up. Insulting and corrupting the norms of society is not how you and the group you associate with get accepted in society. Women and men can find women beautiful because our society usually has a standard for women being considered beautiful. Men do not normally find men handsome, because our society's definition on that is tenuous at best, varies greatly, and usually relies on a woman's definition of "attractiveness," which varies greatly from woman to woman.
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, unless it's Ryan Gosling ot Tanning Chatum
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, Seriously. A guy compliment is something around, "You're a dick, cuntface."
@Frampt, I am not insulting society nor am I attempting to corrupt it. Yes, I do associate myself within demi, but that does not mean I seek to be accepted in society. I'm not oppressed. I'm just unknown. I know that will change one day, but it does not matter to me because I'm more concerned about those who are oppressed. If you opened your own eyes as you so keenly want me to, you would see that, yes, there are two biological identities, there are also mental identities that affect it too. That's why the spectrums are not concrete, because mental identities and biological identities create different combinations. Society has no norms. It only has what we are taught to be norms and that's where I'm bothered. Look at the time that we live in.
@ProbablyNotTheFirst, You're like soooooo smart.
I don't know about you, but that's my basis on someone's attractiveness...
@werget, but it's different. If you're a straight male who feels secure enough about his sexuality, then you should be able to look at a guy and note features that are attractive or not. It's not saying that you are attracted to him, but more understanding why people find him attractive.
@Jedi Reynolds, No, a straight male just doesn't think that way. He is incapable of knowing if a man is attractive because he is not attracted to it. Anything women find "hot or attractive" men find creepy and weird... like twilight and fifty shades of grey.
@Frampt, okay, you have so many logical fallacies it's ridiculous. Straight girls can look at other girls and tell if they are attractive without being attracted to them. It's the same way for guys. If you felt more secure about your sexuality then you'd see that. Smooth skin, prominent jaw, straight teeth. It's biology.
@Jedi Reynolds, and you have so many false equivalencies and cases of improper word usage that it's about to give me an aneurism. First off, that's under the confines of psychology and sociology, not biology, and especially not basic biology. Also I could have sworn you said that this was a topic of mental security and not sexual, how could it be that you are waffling in your definitions? Methinks it be that you're making shlt up at this point, to redirect the purpose of my arguments. In addition I am rather secure about my sexuality and mental state, and it has absolute irrelevance to knowledge of a tenuous definition of attractiveness to be determined by a gender and sexuality I do not possess. My argument rests primarily in the case that because there is a large, divergent definition in what is to be attractive in a male, and the fact that straight males are not attracted to men in general, a man could not determine any kind of level of attractiveness.
@Frampt, you really don't see reason, do you? I never once questioned your mental stability. My point is that it is possible. You just don't think that it is because society tells you that's gay.
@Jedi Reynolds, Yes, please, tell me what I think and that I'm sexually and mentally insecure, then completely deny the fact that you did and then state that I do not see reason. It really makes you look like a great debater with a consistent, coherent purpose... Society has a factor in it, but not because it designates a negative label to the act. It is because there is no distinct quantifier for male attractiveness, like there is for feminine beauty. You should be able to see the correlation between a man not understanding what constitutes as "male attractiveness" and thinking that it must require a feminine mind set to know that. The compromise or solution to this would be merely a recognition of this correlation in thought and a explanation of what constitutes as attractiveness for a man. Visible quantities of strength, such as defined or a cylindrical core? Facial shape and jawline? (What would be the order of most to least preferable out of standard face shapes?)
@Frampt, I did say that you were insecure sexually, but I used it in a way to say that you're simply afraid of someone thinking that you're gay. And it's obvious that that is not true, so I do apologize. I honestly do not remember questioning your mental stability, but if I did then it was not what I meant and I apologize for that too. It's hard to stay consistent in a fluid world. That sounded like I was trying to be way too deep and I did not mean it that way, but still. We've addressed many issues in our threads, and the basis of everything that I have tried to say is that we're held from it. Girls have a basic definition of what is found attractive in guys, and there are outliers just like there is for girls. But if you look through the comments here you will see that people say it is just an awkward question. That's my point of society. You are a very intelligent person, I can tell that much. But you should be more open minded about things.
@Jedi Shepard, I'm a secure straight guy and still incapable of noting attractive guy features. I genuinely cannot comprehend what makes guys attractive, even if I try to figure it out. You're a woman aren't you? Other wise you would not be telling guykind (incorrectly) what our minds should be capable of. Just because girls can do it doesn't mean we (all) can, its a biological difference. Why do you think guys are always so clueless about how to look good? Many of us are incapable (not for lack of trying) of judging our own appearance.
@Urist McDorfforter, as it would be, I'm a man. I would like to apologize for this post however. It was a long time ago, and I really don't like talking to people this way. I also do retract my statement. I realize now that sexuality is more of a 1-1
@Urist McDorfforter, I wasn't done typing! Stupid phone. Anyway, I realize now that sexuality is more of a 1-10 scale than something everyone can actually feel without necessarily being fully attracted to someone. I've met other males and females who, on this scale, claim to be 7 and numbers close to it because they can tell if the same sex is attractive or not, but not to a point where they feel physical attraction for them, and I've met people like you who identify as a 10 on this scale. And that's fine. I shouldn't have drawn this rant out here. That's really not like me. I apologize again for the mentality I had then, and I realize that I was wrong.
My little brother doesn't find this awkward. Corbin blue was on the screen and he said "You know what that guy is kinda handsome." Good job bro.
@Gitamaru, how old is he?... You might want to do a brotherly favor and slip him one of your smut mags.
@Frampt, you really are pig headed aren't you. That doesn't mean that the brother is gay, and it's not like giving him porno mags would change that if he was.
@Frampt, old enough too know you don't have to be gay to compliment another guy.
@Jedi Reynolds, Twas a jest. Twas merely a ruse. Just to make it clear it was just a joke... Not going to bother arguing your other point.
@Frampt, excuse me for not knowing when you're joking given all the other threads you've spawned off my comments here.
@Jedi Reynolds, Yes, and for that I apologize. To both you, Gitamaru, and anyone else confused by it. But I do still have a serious nature about my other comments.
I can sometimes tell if another guy is good looking, but in all honesty most of the time I really don't know, might just be me but I can't usually judge other guys looks, I'm not even sure if I'm good looking or butt ugly.
Am I the only guy here that sees no problem in saying yes or no to that question?
@Der Metzgermeister, When did Armin Miewns get out of prison?
@Der Metzgermeister, probably
@Der Metzgermeister, unfortunately people continue to see sexualities as concrete objects and not a spectrum. No, you're not alone, but we certainly aren't many.
@Jedi Reynolds, Even a spectrum has concrete ranges they are defined in just like "Visible Light" and "Gamma" for the Electromagnetic spectrum, there's also "Hetero-normative" and deviancy from that default range, such as "Homosexuality" and Fetishes.
@Frampt, not necessarily concrete ranges. What we see as being red is the beginning of the infrared spectrum, and red looks different when only being viewed in the infrared spectrum and not the visible light spectrum. In other words, it depends on how you look at it. And try looking up the different sexualities. There's a lot more than just homosexuality and hetero sexuality. I fall in heteroromantic demisexuality. There's a lot of spectrums now. Don't be so narrow minded.
@Frampt, seriously, I'm just asking you to go and google sexualities. Bounce around for a bit. Look at how each sexuality has a lot of sub groups. Just go and look and you'll see that there isn't concrete edges in sexuality. You fall somewhere on two different spectrums.
@Der Metzgermeister, no, most of us dont have a problem with that. It's more that many straight guys just honestly don't find ANY guys attractive.
That was more of a middle school guy thing for the people i know.
If I thought another guy was attractive, that would by definition make me gay, so no I do not think he is attractive.
@Major Sanity, no, it doesn't actually. It's basic biology. As long as you aren't one of the sub sexualities (asexual, demi, pansexual, ect.) then you should be able to look at someone of the same sex and be able to determine if they have attractive features, but I've noticed that this really only holds true for guys who are secure about their sexuality. There's a difference between primary attraction and primary sexual attraction. The question was asking for the first.
@Jedi Reynolds, Dude, seriously. Look at your comment and think if anybody is going know know what the hell you're talking about... Exactly, we don't know the difference. And we don't even think or consider if other men could be considered attractive. It's simply not a part of our psyche. Saying that we're insecure about our sexuality is irrelevant and just makes you a condescending asshole. We know that we're straight enough to not even bother caring about what the male gender looks like.
@Frampt, people who are secure about their sexuality are actually able to look at things from the point of view of others' sexualities. It means that they don't care what society thinks about it. Seriously, it's basic biology. And you're being an asshole about it. Can you tell when another guy is ugly? Okay, you can tell the reverse too. Just calm down and try not to be so sensitive about it.
@Jedi Reynolds, That's a false equivalency, sir, madam, or "whatever your preferred pronouns may deem you." The word you are looking for is "Empathetic" and not "secure." I apologize for feeling offended at an argument using negative connotations and loaded words in its wording. [/sarcasm] One can determine ugly because there is a societal ideal based on what it is that both genders agree on, as the same for beauty. The is no standard that defines handsome as men tend to admire strength and intelligence in other men (quantified values of traits that allow them to enact change on the world) while women tend to admire... not really sure I don't understand nor have ever heard reason behind why a woman finds a specific male attractive. I find what the "stereotypical" attractive, Fabio-esque male to be hideous and weird, and even that isn't technically the definitive "norm."
@Frampt, but there's your issue. You only see stereotypes. The world is so much broader than that. The fact that you can't determine my gender only shows that the way I talk and my beliefs do not give it away. So what if you can't look at a man and determine of he is attractive? That doesn't mean others can't. Just because you fit within a stereotype does not mean others do.
@Jedi Reynolds, I do see partially in stereotypes, but mostly in distinct definitions, some of which needing clarification. You can look at a chair and determine it is for sitting, even though the legs may be a single curved metal bar, rather than four wooden legs. Humans naturally perceive and categorize things. Some people think with more objective categories and some with more subjective. As I said if they simply lacked the need for this category of "male attractiveness" and cannot empathize with the person asking the question, then they simply would not know an answer, and would be unable to determine. "Error 404: File not Found"
Plot twist: He is gay and loves the guy that asked him
I just can't tell you. I honestly don't know if another guy is attractive or not
The way I think we as men says another man is attractive is "I bet he gets a lot of hoes" that's what my friend says anyway idk I think he's gay and just trying to sugar coat it so we don't shun him
@invalid chicken Dude your so damn bomb jkjk
Plot twist: I would fvck him up the ass
I'm a guy. I'm not sure about anyone else here but if I find someone attractive I want to fvck then up the @ss. The two kinda go together
Whoever created this needs to know that many guys (like myself) are genuinely not able to tell whether someone were not attracted to is attractive. Not being gay does mean I am literally not capable of detecting attractiveness in another man. To me, we're all butt ugly and only girls can be good looking. Which is actually a good thing since that means no guy is hotter than me and I am therefore tied for best looking guy on the planet.
well, that escalated gayly
Guys telling others guys that they have swag is thier form of calling each other sexy
I've often wondered why it is okay for two girls to discuss the attractiveness of another girl but when a guy says another guy is good looking suddenly he's a slammer.
No I really don't know unless he's a model practically
A better question to ask is: "Hey. Is he competition?" O____o
There's a difference?
There is not a single man in the world that would not bang Hugh Jackman given the chance
Where is the picture?