Batman and Robin finally put aside their differences
In all seriousness, I'm neither for not against gay marriage. I'm a Christian and I hate it when other Christians hate on gay people. It just makes me so and that they are the ones that give the rest of us a bad name. We're taught to love others without judgement just as God loved us. And for those of you who are gay, I am truly sorry for any hate or abuse you've suffered. Sorry for the long post, but I had to say something.
@Felix the Bear, I think we can all rejoice in the fact that the Westboro Baptist Church leader is dead
@Felix the Bear, I am also christian, and I have gay friends. They know I don't approve, but they also know I don't judge them or force Christianity down their throats. It bothers me when other people who claim to be Christians are homophobes and hate on gays. If someone is truly a Christian than they know to share God's love rather than show his judgment
@Sexy Homunculus, Is he really, I hope people picketed his funeral.
@Felix the Bear, in all seriousness as a Christian I do feel uncomfortable about gay marriage, but if gay people want to have a Civil Union ceremony and after party following it, I'm down for it. I have no hate toward gay people, and I do think that they should have legal benefits that are equal to a married couple.
@Sexy Homunculus, he is? Awesome.
@Felix the Bear, I agree. I think homosexuality is a sin but no where does the bible say it's worse than any other sin. I'm not without sin so why should I judge others. It's says multiple places in the bible not to judge including Deuteronomy 17:7, Matthew 7:1, Romans 2:1, John 8:8 to name a few.
@theFortunateApple, to be fair they're used to having things rammed down their throat. In all seriousness though I think being gay is absolutely fine. I have no qualms with it at all.
@Felix the Bear, Muslims say ditto for what its worth. You just got some hardliners out there.
@Felix the Bear, but marriage is (in the Catholic Church) just for a man and a woman to be together
@bradrobe, regardless of whether marriage should be between a man or a woman, hate should never come into the picture.
@Felix the Bear, if you don't mind me stealing your inspirational speech. Religious texts teach tolerance, so people who hate and use religion as the reason are wrong.
@Felix the Bear, Wow I really do try my best to stay quiet about things like this and to see how it will play out but as I read through these comments I couldn't help but be angrier and angrier. I'm a lesbian and these comments are disgraceful. The term "I don't agree with it but I don't hate or judge." Okay I'm sorry, but who asked for your opinion? Why is there even an opinion?! We were born like this! I tried my damndest to like men! Tried for three years but I can't do it. I hate myself for it and there is nothing I want more than to just like men but I cannot do it! I wish i could fix myself or there was an easy solution but there isn't one so kindly keep what you feel abou what might as well be eye color to yourself. Stop disagreeing with something that I can't fix but that society makes me wish I could. And for another thing, all that is needed for evil to win is for good to lay down and die. Your complacency is just as disgraceful as flat out hate. You're helping them.
@bronze512, Do you honestly fail to see that we are real living breathing actual people too? With thoughts and minds and feelings? We exist! We fall in love and we find people that make us happy and we expierience things like heartbreak and relationship troubles just like all of you. We are not just the gays or the homos or just some group for all of the heteros to sit around and look at and judge and make decisions for! How dare you think you are above us in saying that our love is not worthy of marriage. We are people.
@ScarletRaven, I never said I don't agree with it. And you should never hate yourself. Anyone that makes you think that hating yourself for not being like someone else is just stupid. You are who you because of the trials and experiences you've been through, not because of the way that someone else wants you to be. And excuse my language,but fvck society and them trying to "fix" you, because the only thing that needs to be fixed is the way that you see yourself. The only flaws a person have are the parts of themselves they don't accept.
@Felix the Bear, thank you and I didn't necassarily mean you in my little rant I just credited it to you but I meant the whole comment section in general so my apologies.
@ScarletRaven, it's okay :)
@ScarletRaven, when did I say you guys aren't humans? I never said that you guys aren't entitled to human rights, but right now the problem with gay marriage is that the only way to legalize gay marriage would be to force it into the church. If they issue is getting legal benefits, then leave it at that. The bible says being gay is a sin, so it shouldn't be a shocker for the if the church is against gay marriage; but just because the church is against gay practice, doesn't mean the government should.
@bronze512, Churches force their stuff on people outside of church why can't anyone force stuff on churches? That makes no sense to me. In the last 2 days I've had 3 Christian ladies and 2 Jehovah witnesses standing at my doorstep trying to force their way in to tell me all about their church and their beliefs. So why can churches be forceful about their beliefs but groups of people can't be?
@Purrlock Holmes, the government? There is an official separation go church and state, and also freedom of speech; I never said people can't be outspoken about who they are. If you are gay, then be happy, who cares what others think. And those people standing outside weren't "Forcing" anything, you easily can just say not interested and close the door.
@bronze512, I did say I wasn't interested and I'm not even interested in the gay rights thing argument. I'm just saying a lot of religious people tend to force their beliefs and opinions on other people and then turn around and fuss about other people not even bothering them. I don't get how they can act all high and mighty and sh!t talk down on everyone who doesn't have the same beliefs. And I know it's not everyone of them but it's a lot of them and it's pretty dumb. They need to start being more tolerant.
@Sexy Homunculus, Hey! Don't speak ill of the dead! ...*subtle high five*
@ScarletRaven, I feel you- I've developed a self harm addiction, depression, social anxiety, selective mutism and I've tried to kill myself numerous times because of my sexuality and gender identity (amongst other things, but mostly those) Been there, done that, got the lasting complications to prove it- and I sometimes feel like just screaming in people's faces that nobody gets harmed if I like girls, nobody gets harmed if my gender doesn't match my sex- A sin is a sin because it harms somebody, surely?
@PeenWentz, Lying harms, killing harms, hating harms, stealing harms- That's why they're sins, no? I was always in C of E schools as a kid and their overall message was "love don't harm" so I was always like, cool, I love girls, I don't harm them, I'm going to Heaven- Yay! Me having consensual sex with a girl doesn't harm anybody! Me identifying as genderfluid harms nobody! Can somebody please explain why love offends anybody? Why would a wholly benevolent god pick and choose what love is okay?
@Purrlock Holmes, what do you mean "other people not even bothering them"? The main issue is about gay rights, and a big part of the argument is gay marriage; and marriage is defined as a religious ceremony. Legalizing gay marriage would mean that the government is imposing on religion which is prohibited by the constitution.
@Felix the Bear, me too, I'm a Christian and support gay rights. I grew up I the south and was around so much hate against gay people.
@bronze512, there are more accepting pastors and religions. Just saying.
@PeenWentz, I get it, I do. I've had my hand at battling some of these issues as well and over the years I realized a lot of important things that have kept me calm for these past few years. A lot of people aren't worth it. People aren't worth it when they get hung up on trivial issues like who you fall in love with. Love is weird but love is definitely blind. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that things get better because they don't. Not on their own at least. Hug a homophobe, pet a puppy, eat a dohnut, and make an unlikely friend. Love starts with you so spread it with open arms everywhere you go and you'll find your place in society.
@bronze512, p mb
@CriTiKa1, yes he is and they've already asked the public to "be respectful and leave them in peace". Anyone want to start a fundraiser to send busloads of veterans?
@Sexy Homunculus, it's kind of screwed up you are happy someone died. I am a bi man myself, but I didn't hate him as a person, not his beliefs. He had freedom of religion so to dislike him because he practiced what he believed was wrong. He had the right to express his opinions in the same way you did about being happy that he's dead and the same way I, a bi man, am saying that is screwed up.
@CriTiKa1, so they would do what we hated about him?
@Purrlock Holmes, dude, freedom of speech. They can say what they want. Don't be bigoted towards religious individuals.
@PeenWentz, because God made the institution of marriage to be between a man and a woman. In the joining of the two sexes they are supposed to complete eachother is the basic premise of what is given in the bible. As a Roman Catholic I personally don't believe in gay marriage because I dont believe the same sexes can accurately represent what marriage, as God intended, is supposed to be. Now before y'all flip out on me, let me at least say that I have no problem with gay or lesbian individuals. Whilst homosexuality is still a sin, we are all sinners and I am no more or less deserving of God's grace and compassion.
@funkypants, I'm not being bigoted. I'm expressing MY freedom of speech. I don't care what religion says what. I don't care who marries who. SOME religious people IN MY OPINION act like they are better than everybody else for some reason or another. No it's not ALL Christians but it's a lot of them making a bad name and rep for the ones who actually follow the bible. This being said everyone should practice more tolerance, let people be happy, quit saying one sin is worse than another. And when I say no I don't want to hear about your church or god I shouldn't be told I'm going to burn in hell for having my beliefs. Nothing in anything I said was bigoted or putting down anyone's religion or freedom of speech. I just said if churches can impose on people not in church why can't we do the same without it being an issue. He said government reasons and I said people trying to force their beliefs on people and not being tolerant is dumb. Please explain my bigotedness. I don't see it.
@Countrywide, I just don't understand why homosexuality is a sin. I don't understand it. It has no negative effect on anybody. I understand lying being a sin. I understand stealing being a sin. I even understand suicide being a sin (although I don't agree with it) Marriage isn't just a Christian thing. Marriage has multiple purposes- the main two being to show commitment and to raise a family. Neither of those things are exclusive to heterosexual couples. Sex also has multiple purposes- to show love and to procreate. Homosexual couples can do one of those two things. The only thing homosexual couples can't physically do that heterosexual couples can is have sex and wind up pregnant (although they can still have biological children. They just can't do it the easy way)
@Purrlock Holmes, wow you are pretty ticked, aren't you
@funkypants, Give em a taste of their own medicine, make them suffer the way they've been making others suffer. It's the right things to do for such a terrible man and his awful family.
@funkypants, A bit. It irritates me that so many people are killing themselves because they are being called horrible names for being gay. Or people like me being called terrible names for having a different religion. It just irritates me people take things like the bible literally and then turn around and misconstrue them. And then some people want to stand up for the bullies rather than fix things so there just winds up more victims.
@ScarletRaven, I know all too well that things don't get better, trust me. At most they start to, but there's always another bombshell to make sure they don't. That being said, your comment really gave me a boost, especially the end bit- thank you
@Purrlock Holmes, well then don't do the same thing. Don't get mad at Christians or Jehovah's witnesses the same way a few of them are mad at you.
@PeenWentz, well there are two trains of thought. One is that because God created man and woman as equal counterparts who when joined in marriage are supposed to reflect Gods love and then have the miracle of childbirth. So homosexuality is then to basically openly defy God's creations, in that he created us to be a half to a whole and that it is completed by his love and the joining of the two sexes. The second is when in Leviticus it speaks of the town that is dealing in prostitution, liars, gamblers, thieves and homosexuality and God speaks of the sin they are causing upon the earth and wipes them out. Those are how I view the bible, im not the only one who views it that way, but certainly there are those who view it differently.
@bronze512, Why can't they call it marriage? Religion has holy matrimony, marriage already is a civil union, just let them call it what it is.
@Countrywide, I view it very differently. I view it as a myth.
@ProfitlessProphet, while its well within your right to view it as such, might I suggest not calling it a myth just because of the very definition of the word. A myth would view it as something not real and when you're talking about Christianity which is a very real thing not a myth. It irritates me to no end when people use definitions of words that don't properly fit.
@Countrywide, Where as it was my intention to irritate you. But I look at all religions in the same light, from ancient Greece to scientology.
@ProfitlessProphet, thats completely fine. And sorry if I sound confused but your intention was to irritate me? Just wondering because I don't know if you made a typo and meant the exact opposite.
@Countrywide, No, my daughter was smacking my phone and I missed the not. My bad, was never a good proof reader.
@ProfitlessProphet, all good man, mistakes happen. Good luck with your daughter! I love my kids but man somedays.
@Countrywide, No I understand, my wife and I have two daughters. They can date when I'm dead.
@ProfitlessProphet, my daughter is so close to that. Im literally terrified.
@Countrywide, We still have almost a decade until that happens and I'm already terrified. I wish you luck on that front.
@ProfitlessProphet, the worst bit is that im a really young dad, had my daughter at 18 and son at 20 so when my daughter brings boys over I get almost no respect.
@Countrywide, I was 23 when we had our oldest. My wife causes more problems then her friends right now. But she won't let me set rules such as no other people's kids in the house after 5.
@ProfitlessProphet, I don't let boys stay after 7. The problem is I travel quite a bit and im positive my wife lets kids stay late. Its annoying but I'd rather not argue about it.
@Countrywide, *cough cough* most of the world does not have the same religious beliefs as you
@DinkIeberg, I never claimed that they are?
@Countrywide, so why should the rights of millions be withheld on the basis of a religion that most people on the planet dont believe, or any religion at all?
@DinkIeberg, I never said they should. I just said I don't believe in it. As an issue this is one that I recognize that I have no power to change and it's going to happen anyway. I just stated the examples given from the bible. If you look above I state that I have no problem with gay or lesbian individuals.
@Countrywide, Oh. Wow. I feel kind of stupid now...so um...AND DONT FORGET IT!!....*walks away shaking head stupidly*
@DinkIeberg, haha hey man we all make mistakes. Its all good!
@ScarletRaven, ya I'm just saying that two female ends of a plug can't make a connection, for humans it's all in are head not how where build that makes someone gay of lesbian but how they think, it's not your fault that your mind is broken
@Felix the Bear, I just honestly believe that it is harder to argue against gay marriage than it is for gay marriage. I have never heard an argument against that I believed was valid
@Felix the Bear, I totally agree! And what I really hate is when those people start yelling at you for defending gays and I'm literally just like I'm doing what we're all called to do you're the one that's disobeying God
@CalvinandHobbes, *jumps into convo* It does get annoying when you deal with people who try to convince you of an invisible man who really doesn't exist day in an day out
@Felix the Bear, I'm not a homophobe or forcing anything down anyone's throat but if anyone claims to be Christian then read 1 Corinthians 6:9,10.
@theFortunateApple, holy erected nipples I thought I was the last Christian who thought like this. Who'd a thought I'd find some hope on funny pics.
@Felix the Bear, If you truly are Christian you should be strongly against it. You should love your neighbor no matter who they are but you should not be "ok" with people acting against Gods word.
@theFortunateApple, exactly! I might not approve of homosexuality but I don't judge cause I sin differently.
@Felix the Bear, I wish all Christians thought the way you do...
Or a woman wearing a cape. Or a woman and a man wearing a cape. Or a woman and a woman wearing a cape. At the end of the day,someone needs to have a cape.
Hm I never thought of it that way...
No necks though
I don't care that people are gay but it bothers me that they make that their defining trait and they bring it up all the time.
@ToolOGT92, not all of gay people do. In fact, many of them have it made their defining trait by others. For example, I get introduced as Oli, the gay friend. People I don't really know call me "that gay chick in biology" All I did was come out. I never asked to be "the gay friend"
@ToolOGT92, It is our defining trait because it needs to be brought up and talked about. It needs to be out in the open where everyone can see in order for us to win our fight. Heteros don't realize it but your sexuality gets worked into at least 3 conversations you have everyday. You just happen to notice when we do it because we're different.
@ScarletRaven, oh how I love the POON!!!
@Prophetic Phallus, I'm going to go get me some Butterfly poon - Randy Marsh.
@ScarletRaven, ok, I'm bi and I can say that it doesn't unless you bring it up. Most of my friends don't know. Not because I'm afraid to tell them, but because it's not important. It's so annoying when I see people like you make a huge deal about who you want to be with. It's no one else's business.
@ToolOGT92, as opposed to anti-gay people that define people by being gay...
@funkypants, People like me? You don't know me or my situation. I'm simply saying that heteros slip in things about their sexuality daily whether they realize it or not. In ads, music, tv, video games, and movies sexuality is everywhere and that's not a problem. Its acceptable but we should be able to exercise that right. If you're a private person that's good for you but not everyone feels that way.
@ScarletRaven, your 'trait' is a defect there is nothing to be proud of, you just announced that you like to scissor on the internet, the level of anger in your text tells me your maybe also BIpolar...
@bradrobe, I'm not angry. I'm just saying. And actually I am proud of who I am. If you were any less than ignorant you'd also know that scissoring is a made up thing for pr0n and wouldn't actually be useful..
@ScarletRaven, your arguing with someone on the internet, you cannot win, your still defined as broken...
Stark spangled banner!
RIGHTS FOR NON CAPED PEOPLE
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If that's how you like it
I'm not a homophobe or forcing anything down anyone's throat but if you claim to be Christian then read 1 Corinthians 6:9,10
One is the hero obviously
@Your Grandmas Tits, What does Hydroxide have to do with this?