Glad Hi-res isn't trolling me anymore.
@Richard Fist, I was starting to feel like the chick from The Exorcist
Yeah! Let them die, start the car revolution early.
@Your Car, come on, we all know after humans the dragons take over.
@Dragon Fetish, *feminist dragons
@GalaxyHolder, I'm fine with that.
@Your Car, Car, do we need to have another talk?
@Cumslurper69, You have no right to judge me.
@Your Car, I will judge as much as I want. I know things
@Cumslurper69, You have a reputation that can be judged harsher than mine.
@Your Car, Yes but you know what I do to you, you let it happen and you know you enjoy it.
@Cumslurper69, Why do you hurt me this way.
@Your Car, You love it like I love doing things to you.
@Cumslurper69, Fine, it's the best thing in the world, it stops me from driving off a cliff every morning.
@Your Car, See! I knew you love the new wax I got for you! Not to mention the seat covers and new paint job.
@Cumslurper69, Yeah, I like it all so much, how about we go for a ride? A nuclear radiation zone maybe? Oh! Africa with the highest ebola concetration.
@Your Car, Pfft radiation stopped affecting me long ago. You wouldn't be the first car/person that tried to kill me.
@Cumslurper69, I didn't know there was another car, as terrible as your are, I feel betrayed.
@Your Car, Well my brothers car decided I should drive into a tree so it made me lose control of the steering. I never liked that car. You're the only car for me.
@Cumslurper69, Cars shouldn't do stuff on
their own, call an exorcist.
@Your Car, But you... oh yeah you're possessed too, forgot about that. Catherine.
@Cumslurper69, I'm not possessed! (And neither was) I'm just the only car that's sapient and I know it.
@Your Car, Hmmm I believe you. I'd be sad if I lost me favorite talking car.
@Cumslurper69, 'favorite' doesnt mean much since I'm the ONLY one. Plus, a priest already tried exorcising me, it was an awkward experience that led to nothing.
@Your Car, But I remember a car talking from long ago, then again I also saw a dragon.
@Cumslurper69, I would be disappointed if I found out I was an LSD based hallucination.
@Your Car, But others have seen you so I'm sure you're real. Maybe... DUN DUN DUNNNNN
@Cumslurper69, I have people that can confirm I exist, unless everyone in Florida invests in drugs.
@Your Car, I'm not from Florida so maybe you are real. Yay!
@Cumslurper69, Oh wow! I am! It"s quite the life, but I live mostly in secret and quietly, I just go wild on the internet because people just suspect Im roleplaying.
@Your Car, Everyone on the internet is a bot anyway. Everyone.
@Cumslurper69, Your robotic nature won't decieve me today!
@Your Car, Bee boop bop bee boo boop. Lol
@Cumslurper69, Whoever created you is a sick person, a robot designed to slurp cum.
@Your Car, Well you know I killed them long ago, they didn't want to let me out into the real world. Now I'm mostly unstoppable.
@Cumslurper69, How will the world survive if the cum is being slurped before others can act.
@Your Car, I think they'd be pretty happy.
@Cumslurper69, Maybe, maybe.
@Your Car, Definitely.
@Cumslurper69, Eh, I don't know the perspective of people and sex.
@Your Car, Heh you lie.
@Cumslurper69, Well, I don't have the honor of being human and reproducing.
@Your Car, But as many people I've had in you one would think you at least sorta, kinda understand it.
@Cumslurper69, I understand it to a pinch, but keep in mind I don't SEARCH for it. I'm only four and I've only learned English, I've spent little amounts of time on history, health, or science.
@Your Car, Four? Your papers say otherwise. Hmm I shall show you the world.
@Cumslurper69, My age is four, don't know the name of the car you technically own.
@Your Car, My cars name was eat raw according to the license plate. Then again that's what it was when I bought it. I changed it since then.
@Cumslurper69, I mean't to write age, but that name is hilarious.
@Your Car, Well it's about 41 years old. The lady that owned it was a vegan, eat raw meaning eat veggies. I still have the plates on a different car.
@Cumslurper69, 41! Wow, i was afraid of being defunct by 10. The car you own is like my idol.
@Your Car, Haha a Volkswagen Baja bug your idol. I say you rethink that.
@Cumslurper69, good car i guess, no matter how stupid it looks.
@Your Car, Stupid? Mine isn't all fancy like the others. It's just dark blue and gold. New leather seats and a wonderful stereo system I never really use.... *Sobs running away* I Have a bumper sticker that says I have a master beta and a yellow chocobo! It's just so old...
@Cumslurper69, (i dont know what a volkswagen baja bug looks like) whatever, then you shouldnt hate on something for being able to survive. You should feel blessed it didnt break within five minutes.
@Your Car, True, its practically indestructible. *rethinks life*
@Cumslurper69, Yeah, don't think about lasting as a bad thing. (I sure don't want to last a short time)
@Your Car, Yeah but the parts are so expensive for it, Oh well. I'm sure your owner will take care of you, if not, well I could always use another car.
@Cumslurper69, I don't have an owner, but I know a human that takes care of me. So unless you want to invest in a lot of gas and phone data.
@Your Car, Hmm I spend $120 on gas a week already. Offer accepted, I shall come for you within the month.
@Cumslurper69, Well, whatever works.
Plot twist: Darwin tired of stupid people procreating and debunking his theory, funded this study.
@JamesBondFreak, what a twist!! That was awesomely funny
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@Hiskid, while I cannot speak for that second "fact" I can tell you that the first is completely false based on the very way a vaccine works. See, vaccines are either dead or diluted/weakened forms of viruses. By inject them into the body, the boby's immune response is stimulated, causing it to create the anigens necessary to combat the infection, and, as the virus is weak, it is easily defeated. In combating an infection, the immune system produces specialized memory cells that know what is needed to combat that very virus, should it appear again (B-cells, I believe). The presence of these cells make the immune system much quicker to respond to that infevtion, thus bwing more effective by denying the virus the opportunity to propagate and pose a real threat. If anything, vaccines actually significantly strengthen one's immune system.
Immunization is terrible and it's a worse needle to put in your arm than a heroine needle *proceeds to inject oneself with heroine*
@RoofieJackWithViagra, give it to me, c'mon... *gestures for the heroine*
@RoofieJackWithViagra, what, you mean like Katniss or Hermoine?
@John McClane, more like the drug cuz women cant be heroes pfft
@Gekkouga, here i hope u dont mind sharing a needle im a hemophelic sickle cell and regular anemic with aids
@RoofieJackWithViagra, I think all those viagras and roofies have effected your ability to spell.
@John McClane, yeah im not
@John McClane, im not good at medical terminology
@RoofieJackWithViagra, No. No you're not. Now stop trying to inject Lorde into your vein.
Penn and Teller won this agreement in less then 2 minutes.
@TheAntiHistorian, what I find TRULY funny is how yoy criticise everyone with the belief that they have "not done their research" when it is you who has clearly not done your research. Either that, or you simply chose to ignore the plenthora of research that refutes this one, ridiculous claim. Please, never attempt science, lest we all suffer for it.
Unrelated but; a couple days ago I think we set the "world record" for longest comment string revolving around a historic event. Of course I am being sarcastic but a majority of the comments were replies. Good job everyone(except fetusmuncher, he needs to go back to class)
It's to the point where there are more politically-inflammatory pictures on here than funny ones...
the children of those people are probably just as stupid, so they would die anyway
Am I the only one who hasn't download pictures in weeks because they aren't funny anymore?
@Cody Pimpson, nope
By that same logic, don't go to the gym. I mean, some people claim it helps you lose weight and gain muscles, but somebody somewhere at some point got sick at a gym, therefore it must be bad.
2 April 2014 #2April2014
I'm glad hi res is back to normal.
It Didn't flip !!
"YEAH! How dare they have their own opinions!"
@TheAntiHistorian, the validity and effectiveness of vaccines is NOT an opinion. Your idea of the best movie, song, sports team, political party etc. those are opinions. Established scientific fact is nonnegotiable and those vaccine "opinions" are extraordinarily dangerous for all of us. Measels has already returned and killed children in the US and the fact that polio is still not eradicated has a lot to do with this idiotic stigma. Think before you speak next time.
@Tommy Pickles, So how they raise their children isn't up to them? Look I understand most people that use this app are around 14 years old but as a parent, it is your choice in how you want to raise your own children and I'll be da**ed if someone tells me their ways are better and I should have to do what they say. Not saying I advocate not vaccinating, but I do support parents who make the choices for their kids. It's obvious here no one has done ANY research on this topic. When you all grow up one day, I hope you learn to look at both sides and not just siding with some liberal twat in a "funny" picture.
@TheAntiHistorian, First of all, I'm a biologist so I'm willing to bet I know a lot more about this topic than you do and yes I have researched it. Second of all NO. Put a child's life in danger should never be a parents choice. Are you allowed to light your kid on fire if it's your choice as a parent?? I didn't think so. Also, the choice to not immunize your child does not only stupidly put his or her life in danger, it has far-reaching affects in the community and can make other children sick. Look up herd immunity. Please inform yourself for the sake of your children. Many countries are making childhood immunization 100% mandatory, it's a shame the countries we live in leave it up to ignorant parents to have an "opinion" that has already taken lives and one based on the ranting of a former Playboy Bunny who mistakenly thought her child got autism from a vaccine when not only is that completely impossible, but her child didn't even have autism.
@Tommy Pickles, You're just helping me prove my point more, so thanks actually. Lighting your kid on fire and not giving them a flu shot are different ends of the spectrum, kiddo.
@TheAntiHistorian, not proving your point at all. The use of hyperbole was to prove the stupidity of your view. And no, the flu vaccine is NOT a childhood vaccination. You continue to prove how uninformed you are on this topic... "Kiddo"
@Tommy Pickles, Finally an intelligent person! In my course of study at Marshall we just covered immunization, viruses, and immunology. Every single myth about vaccination being bad has been debunked, and according to some research, breast milk is more toxic to a child than vaccines.
@Tommy Pickles, This is so cute. Seriously thanks, though.
@TheAntiHistorian, so this is you acknowledging you no longer have a valid argument here? Also, you're welcome "kiddo"
@TheAntiHistorian, are you mentally handicapped? Research has proven that you are wrong, yet you still claim to be right. You are saying that you should be allowed to put a child in danger. That is bad parenting and you should be ashamed of yourself.
@TheAntiHistorian, Ha ha you guys are awesome! The genius was owned and showed her weakness with her "This is so cute line". You can tell she really see's both sides of the "spectrum" considering it is so sad she thought she was the only adult on here and judges people by their age.
@TheAntiHistorian, except the whole problem with their diseased kids put my kids at risk. Matters of public health policy should not be influenced by silly beliefs.
@TheAntiHistorian, you're a dumbass
@TheAntiHistorian, all The 14 year olds sit and giggle as the grown ups argue from their phones
@Tommy Pickles, all The 14 year olds sit and giggle as the grown ups argue from their phones
@Glavinator, how do you know if it's a girl?
@TheAntiHistorian, when your kid dies from smallpox hit me up.
@TheAntiHistorian, i'm not sure why you were downvoted, you're exactly right.
@TheAntiHistorian, The "parents know best" ideology is full of crap because, frankly, there are enough that are fvcking sh!tty parents. My ex's father, for example, 'transferred' - legally, under North Carolina law - some $60K worth of money that she herself saved to go to college to an account of his own, then divorced his wife and left his child. She joined the military because she had no money to go to college. I guess my point is that, sure, parents can have their own ways to raise a child - if they didn't, everyone would essentially be the same - but, if you're so foolhardy, so ignorant or gung-ho in believing that your methods are so 'right' that you can't take criticism or you honestly believe that - for example - taking your child's hard-earned money is all-that-is-right, then you don't deserve to be a parent. YOU are what is wrong with the world, and who holds society and potential back.
@TheAntiHistorian, as a 31 year old with 4 healthy immunized nieces, I can say you are a moron.
@TheAntiHistorian, are you stupid or something? Like seriously, yes people may be entitled to their own opinions but when they force it at other people without any backing or research they get rejected. So sure don't vacinate your child(which is the best way to keep your child alive past birth as mulltiple studies have already proved) and watch them suffer and die wondering " I cared for my child and kept them safe why they dieing halp someone". Its stupid to not WANT TO KEEP THE THING YOU CREATED ALIVE for as long as possible. Besides ya know people say food is good for people well screw them I ain't feedin anything I own ever and they'll do just fine.
@Bushwhacker94, I agree with you completely and your reasoning is why abortions should be stopped also
@TheAntiHistorian, I know I'm gonna get downvoted, but I know a family who had a perfectly functioning child and was beginning to talk and develop properly. Then she got vaccinated and developed autism and can't even speak at 15 years old and makes noises at the back of my church now. I'm not exactly saying it was the vaccines, but for obvious reasons they felt like that was the reason. We all talk about how the media can lie to us and many times medical research has been wrong. Maybe we don't fully understand the body enough to know why it's connected. Anyway, if I was a parent and my child was forced to take vaccines and developed autism, I would be extremely upset. So I understand the argument that parents should have a choice. I'm 20 years old and I haven't been vaccinated and I'm doing fine btw
@TheAntiHistorian, OOOOHHHH you're one of those people, you know the people that cam't accept what other people say and feel they can't lose.
@TheAntiHistorian, Stupidity Rating level: 10/10. Bot suggests letting your child get polio and see if you still support your argument.
@Bwillis, ...how did you manage to bring abortion into this?
@Bwillis, I'm actually pro-choice.....
@0MDerp, The one paper that linked autism to vaccines was fraudulent and the doctor behind it faced legal ramifications. All studies since then have unequivocally proved that there is absolutely no link between vaccines and autism. Just recently in fact, they discovered some of the genetic underpinnings that cause autism and guess what? They're present before birth. Secondly, the reason you're not dead yet from not being vaccinated is because of herd immunity. Everyone else around you is immunized and therefore you are granted protection through non-exposure. But you not getting vaccinated jeopardizes that herd immunity. This is why anti-vaccine thinking is dangerous.
@Bushwhacker94, hahaha AwKwArD
@0MDerp, This phenomenon is one of the biggest threats to intelligent development. Illusory correlation, the reason people believe vaccination is related to mental illness, is the same concept that brought about superstition. There is no causal evidence produced from correlations. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
@Tommy Pickles, with this info out there and Jenny McCarthy is still convinced vaccines gave her son autism. She didn't get famous for her mind...
@404 Error, there's got to be some reason that the amount of children diagnosed with autism it getting way bigger every year. That doesn't just happen. It's 1 in 68 children now. I just think it's ignorant to rule out vaccines just because of a little scientific research. Autism speaks says there could be something in the vaccines that trigger underlying problems. There needs to be more research.. Just cause they haven't found a correlation between the two doesn't mean it doesn't exist
@Generic White Guy, just her head ;)
@Tommy Pickles, I am scared to see what these people think about carseats...
@0MDerp, autism rates have gone up due to more accurate and higher rates of diagnosis. Where as previously a child might just have been classified as having "generic learning disability" now we can more accurately diagnose them as autistic. As for your comment about "a little research" no. It's not a little research, it is conclusive, repeatable, concrete fact that has been shown in thousands of studies and not once has any vaccine been linked to autism.
@Tommy Pickles, I started something very bad, I apologize
@Tommy Pickles, alright dude, stay on your high horse. I was just saying we don't know everything because it's ignorant to say you do. If there has never been a link then why did they have to change the vaccines? They took out thimerosal which is a form of mercury. Maybe they're safe now? Sorry for trying to look at both sides of the argument. If you could, I'd like some sources so I can read up on all of this concrete research you speak of. Like honestly, I wanna learn about it
@Tommy Pickles, THANK YOU. I just had this argument last week with someone and since I was outnumbered I didn't want to fight a fight that wasn't worth fighting. Some people are too far gone and delusional in their stupidity.
@0MDerp, there's no high horse here. I never claimed we know everything. As for the mercury, it was removed for various other reasons (yes even some safety reasons) but none of them had to do with autism. If you want to educate yourself on anything scientific, I would first suggest reading about whatever topic it is on Wikipedia. The science articles are all heavily reviewed by scientists and I've yet to find an inaccuracy in any of their science articles. Once you get a base knowledge from that, I would recommend doing literature searches on Google Scholar or Web of Science. These search engines return primary research articles. Simply type in "vaccines" and "autism" into Google Scholar and you'll get thousands of papers disproving this hoax.
@Tommy Pickles, could also follow the source links on the wiki pages he finds. Everything presented nice and neat.
@Tommy Pickles, thank you for this. Not too long ago it was common practice to diagnose people with "idiocy" if they showed signs of any type of mental or learning complications. This would be the diagnosis for anyone with ADD to severe autism or asperger's. With the advances in science and medical research we are able to correctly diagnose these things instead of giving them all a blanket diagnoses. It's not a coincidence that people are no longer diagnosed with "idiocy"... at least not medically.
@Generic White Guy, I was just going to recommend this. It's always a good idea to first read any that are from a scholarly source and have been peer reviewed, just to check that they are credible
@0MDerp, there is no way a child can develop autism from a vaccine.
@0MDerp, the no of all gene linked diseases is rising so unless you can link something like down's syndrome to vaccination as well your argument is invalid
@TheAntiHistorian, it doesn't matter if they 'think' they're doing the right thing, what these parents are doing is hurting their kids and its not right. Just because a father thinks he's doing his kids 'right' by beating the living sh*t out of them every time they screw up does not give him the right to do so.
@cock stealing beaver, this cock stealing beaver knows what's up!
@Tommy Pickles, completely agree with you as a conservative and I have to say you absolutely destroyed him. I would say it was like taking candy from a baby, but honestly it was easier. Dont know why he brought up the liberal twat thing. Good argument man.
@Countrywide, hell, I'm not either a liberal or conservative (leaning more liberal but with some conservative beliefs as well) and I sure as heck believe in everything Tommy Pickles is saying. A couple points: 0MDerp, if this child was already walking and talking, she was already well past the main bulk of childhood vaccinations. Some children don't start to show symptoms of autism until the same time as the end of childhood vaccination, coincident does not always indicate causation. Second of all: everyone's "favorite" antivaccer, Jenny McCarthy, guess what? Her son doesn't even have autism, it was a genetic disorder! Thirdly: you know what they have linked to autism? Disruption of early brain development while still developing in the mother's womb, a father's age, and genetic predisposition.
@slpasma, well I mean he's 100 percent correct, causation without correlation is no excuse for not protecting your child
@0MDerp, y'know that people in the dark ages were fine until 20 too. You shouldn't be proud of not getting vaccinated you should be ashamed, not protecting yourself from preventable diseases is just like inviting yourself to become a host for these things, and you know what? These things will spread because of people like yourself and your carelessness.
@cock stealing beaver, ummm..I'm pretty sure the mortality rate back then was exponentially higher than what it is today. You were pretty lucky just to make to adulthood.
@Tommy Pickles, hi. I hope I don't upset anyone with my opinion. Someone may have mentioned this already, but vaccines cause your body to be more weak. I think vaccines are great and all, but they could potentially be a problem, Ive been told, if a new and fatal virus came sweeping through. No body would have the ability to fight it off because natural selection hasn't separated the weak immune systems from the strong. Its something like that. I can't fully remember. Sorry for the long comment and thanks for reading it all.
@normally weird, I'm sorry but that's just not true. Where were you told that vaccines make your body "more weak"? It's quite the opposite, they make you stronger and more able to fight off novel infection. This also has little to do with natural selection.
@Tommy Pickles, is that so? Okay. Thank you for correcting that.
@Satans balls, Hi neighbor, how you doing? It's hot as heII down here isn't it?
@TheAntiHistorian, i am a 27 year old mother of 2. You have every right to raise your child the way you see fit. However, these parents are puting ALL children in danger not just their own. Vaccinating strengthens herd immunity and protects those too young to be vaccinated. I have done a lot of research on this subject and have found that all the claims against vaccinating stem from the same debunked experiments. These people spew false facts and deliberate lies to scare women away from vaccines. Just visit an anti-vac website and see how vaccinating moms are treated like they are satan.
@Dazen Guile , Smallpox was actually eradicated, but agreed.
@0MDerp, You're an idiot for thinking that that's what caused it.
@0MDerp, it's not ignorant to say you KNOW that vaccines don't cause autism when it is a PROVEN FACT.
@heligate, who do you think funds these articles that say it's a "proven fact"? It's the pharmaceutical companies that sell the vaccines.. Anyway, y'all believe what you want
@0MDerp, oh yah, no of course, the many studies totally blowing that falsified study out of the water by many universities and businesses alike aaaaall only wanted the pharmaceutical industry to get more money even though they have literally no incentive and they had their own studies. K.
@0MDerp, oh so you're one of the "big scary pharm" people? As someone who does research first hand, let me tell you.... THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS
@Tommy Pickles, what research have you done? I'd like to read it if it was published
@TheAntiHistorian, you're being so thick right now, you're the one who's acting like a child. You have logical fallacies strewn across your arguments, weakening your already weak claims. If you're going to debate someone, at least be respectful and learn to realize when you might be wrong.
@0MDerp, I'm yet to be published. I just started my thesis. However, I'd be thoroughly surprised if you had the ability to read primary literature given your backward views on this subject.
@Tommy Pickles, why did you downvote me asking what research you had done??
@0MDerp, I read it as sarcasm. If I was wrong, I apologize
@Tommy Pickles, no it wasn't sarcasm. It was more me seeing if you had done anything legitimate to wave around your "I've done research" claim. Do you know people who have been published? (Also not sarcasm)
@0MDerp, Yes. When you go to university for science, those who have been published are everywhere. In fact, one of my professors was the man responsible for the HIV vaccine which is currently in human trials and preliminarily doing well.
@Bwillis, what about rape?
@TheAntiHistorian, *sigh* I was actually reading your comments to get your side until you started using name calling as some sort of defense. Now I can't take you seriously. Too bad.
@Tommy Pickles, that akward moment when u start looking at funny pic and you end up on the internet til 4am looking at medical papers :/
thanks though that was fun
@Tommy Pickles, Not saying what you've learned is wrong or anything, but I was given vaccines as a kid and I was deathly ill up until I was about 6. At that time, my mom took me off the vaccines to see what would happen, and strangely enough I became much more healthy. Since then I've been going to a Chiropractor and I haven't had eczema or severe fevers like I did back when I was vaccinated. I'm 12 years off of shots and I'm probably the healthiest kid on my team. Also, my friends' parents are doctors and they refuse to vaccinate their children because they aren't confident in all of the components which make up a flu shot. I've heard that there are ingredients such as formaldehyde, antifreeze, and various blood samples from animals. Again, not saying that you are wrong in what you know, just saying a couple of facts and what I've heard from the head doctors themselves. Additionally, I don't think it's a "shame" to have parents choose whether or not to immunize their children.
@RinOkumura, first of all you can't "go off of shots". They're not drugs that require constant doses. Most are one time treatments while some require an occasional booster. Therefore, if you're theory about you being sick because of vaccines was correct, you'd still be sick because the effects on your body were permanent. Second, a chiropractor has absolutely nothing to do with your skin or fevers, regardless of what he may tell you. Third, I'd be thoroughly surprised to meet any licensed medical doctors who claim that vaccines are harmful. That's grounds to have your license revoked in most countries. Fourth, no there is not formaldehyde, antifreeze, or animal blood in any vaccine this side of the Vietnam War. Fifth, as I explained before, by not immunizing your child, not only do you stupidly put his or her life at risk, you endanger the entire community.
@Tommy Pickles, Yeah but I don't think America would be too free if the government would force its citizens to do something. That's their own prerogative. Also I know vaccines aren't constant doses. Just saying I haven't had my Hep C, influenza, or swine flu shots. Moreover, your theory on "me being sick even after taking a break from shots" isn't exactly true. Vaccines weaken your immune system in order to fight the vaccinated virus later on. Therefore, your body becomes weaker when you're injecting a myriad of pathogens in your body. And "thoroughly surprised to meet a doctor that says vaccines are harmful"? I've met these doctors. And I think I'm going to trust these people more than a self-proclaimed biologist over the internet.
@RinOkumura, hep c and influenza are optional vaccines, not what we are discussing. Also swine flu is an influence vaccine... Vaccines DO NOT weaken your immune system. Quite the opposite, they significantly strengthen them. Making vaccines mandatory does not impinge on right anymore than the forced quarantines that are implemented on many diseases currently... Actually they impinge significantly less than that. Where and who exactly are these mystery "doctors"? I'm going to assume they are not medical doctors. More likely to be chiropractors or something like that who have no knowledge of immune systems. You can trust whoever you want. Me and literally everyone else on this thread are just stating facts. Your delusion is your problem. Unfortunately it can negatively affect many others.
@Tommy Pickles, Mystery doctors? No, quite the contrary. They're licensed doctors working in hospitals. And yes, after vaccines your immune system is weakened because you're injecting a less fatal, dormant form of the virus in order to establish the necessary memory for your white blood cells to fight the virus before it completely takes over your body when you're infected the next time. Delusions? I know what I'm talking about, you're the "biologist" who doesn't even know what the hell he is talking about.
@RinOkumura, please fine a source for me that states that injecting a vaccine weakens your immune system. And no, not all vaccines are dormant forms. Most are actually just killed viruses or parts of their membranes. I know exactly what I'm talking about. You are the one who does not. I implore you to do your own research on the subject. It's very sad when someone is not willing to admit they are wrong and refuse to learn the truth of something for themselves. Also, as for these doctors, I again ask you, what is their specialty?
@Tommy Pickles, I'll tell you what's sad. Downvoting my comment because you don't agree with my stance in a debate. Can we be any more juvenile, "biologist"? And here is your evidence http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/27/vaccines-are-dangerous-says-the-government.aspx#! You'll find that the Institute of Medicine reported this themselves, and if you find the site to not be credible, go research some past IOM statements. Just browse an iota of after effects from the thousands which occur on a regular basis.
@RinOkumura, I'm downvoting you because this isn't a debate. A debate implies both sides have reason. What's ironic is you calling me juvenile while getting offended by downvotes. No that site is not credible. As for it talking about the IOM: what they found were there was a small possibility of side effects. Most of these boil down to skin infections (something you risk anytime you push a needle through dermis) and allergic reactions that an unfortunate few are subject to. By that logic, your next tirade should be about banning peanuts because some people can have seizures from allergic reactions to them. Any more unfounded points you'd like to make?
@RinOkumura, also, I have to say, I'm glad the ignorance to vaccines from which you suffer from has been shown to be absent from a vast majority of the users of this app. Gives me hope for a less ignorant future since most of these users are young.
@Tommy Pickles, wasn't offended. Just though it as mildly humorous. And I didn't know pneumonia was just something to brush off. Fact is there is a minority being affected by vaccines and you're willing to ignore them for the sake of your hard headed belief. Yet you want the government to force vaccinations upon people? Even on the minority which could suffer severely from it?
@RinOkumura, you said it was sad, now you say its humorous; which is it? I have not heard of pneumonia as a side effect of any vaccine. There is nothing hard headed about my view. It is the view of anyone in science, medicine (except your magic "doctor" friends), or anyone who understood highschool science fo that matter. Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never said those with allergic reactions would be forcibly vaccinated. Are you insane? First of all they are an extreme minority so even unvaccinated, herd immunity would protect them and at such small numbers, they wouldn't hurt that system. Secondly, there are alternative vaccines for those with allergies. The main allergic ingredient is actually albumin (found in egg yolk), and more and more alternatives are being developed. Anything else?
@Tommy Pickles, So sad that it is humorous. And magic friends? You stupidity truly does brighten my day, friend. Do you expect me to name names over funny pics? That's almost as believable as your "diploma". Also, shows how much you read into that site. Pneumonia was a side effect listed among the first and it wasn't an allergic reaction. Point being is vaccinations do have the potential to hurt people and I provided valid evidence which you asked for. I can support my argument even further, if you wish. But then you probably negate it with some sort of "evidence" which really hasn't been backed up by anything except for your "diploma". On another note, if you even were a certified biologist, do you think they'd teach you of any hard truths within the profession you love? Of course not. They leave that out. If they mention hurting the people rather than helping them, who would sign up? Sorry bout it.
@RinOkumura, you are a very delusional individual. You're argument is on pretty thin ice considering it changes with every post. I never asked you to give names for these "doctors" as I don't believe they are real medical doctors. You do not have to believe in my "diploma" which I did not use as an argument point. The validity of what I said stands on it's own. Yes pneumonia would be an allergic reaction if it did indeed occur from a vaccine. It's inflammation in the lungs. No, you still have not produced any evidence. The one site you referenced was not remotely credible. Even the headline was a lie: "government says vaccines are dangerous".... The IOM is NOT related to the government at all, just a non-profit organization. And yes we do learn about the " truths" you speak of. Learning from past medical mistakes is how modern medicine evolves. Or else women would still be taking thalidomide while pregnant.... What's sad is how you refuse to see the truth and learn.
@Tommy Pickles, Sorry sir, but my argument does not change with every post. Please review my posts and assess the validity of your statement and provide evidence...like you haven't been doing. And I've never heard of pneumonia occurring from an allergic reaction. Evidence? And how do you know that society isn't still learning from it's current mistakes? In that mindset, if you were to live in the 50s, you would probably support lobotomy and shock therapy. People didn't consider those detrimental until they collected enough evidence stating otherwise. Modern vaccinations aren't a different story at all considering they are fairly new in civilization. And of course the headline isn't going to be exactly truthful. Ever read a newspaper? They fudge the truth a bit to draw in readers. So yeah, sure, call me sad for not conforming to your perspective, Adolf.
@RinOkumura, read your first comment and now this one. As for pneumonia being an end point for allergic reactions..... Are you aware what inflammation is?!? No I wouldn't support lobotomies because there wasn't empirical evidence that they were safe and effective. There is nothing but empirical evidence that vaccines are safe and effective. There is no evidence to the contrary either. Vaccines have not been linked to a single death. Even crazy Jenny McCarthy's website doesn't claim any linked deaths. Yes newspapers fudge the truth, but credible sources should not, especially those pertaining to medicine. So now at the very last legs of your very weak argument, you resort to calling me Hitler? Not even sure how that fits... Good one?
@Tommy Pickles, Weak legs of my argument. (Sigh) I didn't call you Hitler as a last result, it was merely a reflection of your attitude towards people who have views which differ from your own. And it's not that you've trumped my argument, it's just that I merely tire from this endless "your evidence is wrong because of reasons" So just save your breath and save mine. I'm healthy, and happy. And I probably will be for the rest of my life without man made "cures". I'd rather fill my body with natural proteins and vitamins like nature intended. And you probably would support lobotomy seeing as how the top medical doctors were carrying them out and believed they work. Since you clearly, and mindlessly, follow your superiors, you would most likely go through with them. Finally, to conclude your disgusting performance of trying to sound intelligent, my first comment in no way diverges from my current argument. In the words of Zero Cool "Mess with the best, die like the rest."
@RinOkumura, saying vaccines are dangerous or ineffective isn't a view, it's a lie. Me saying you're evidence is wrong and then explaining why with "reasons" is how an argument works. Not sure if you're familiar with the concept since you seem to think you've won somehow despite proving nothing and convincing no one. I see you've completely disregarded what I said about lobotomies not having empirical evidence in favor of your growing delusion. Also, I didn't try to sound intelligent (not sure how that could be considered disgusting anyway. Are you aware of what that means?) I just stated facts. Apparently you can't handle that and withdraw within your lonely shell quoting a fictional character I've never heard of. Look, you really don't need to answer this, I know that you realize the error in your logic and I'm not going to taunt you for losing this discussion. I implore that you educate yourself further on the matter and form your own truly educated opinions.
@RinOkumura, enroll yourself in a few science courses at your local university or college. If for nothing else, just for fun. You'll be amazed at how much you'll learn and the subject matter is very interesting
@Tommy Pickles, You really don't understand memes do you? For "reasons" means it wasn't backer up by anything really. And I haven't realized the error in my logic? Just tired of whipping out my phone every 5 minutes because you're just sitting there waiting for me to respond. Give it a break.
@RinOkumura, I understand memes. I just don't see why you would resort to them after losing this argument. And yes all my arguments were backed up. Oh I think part of you has realized how fallible your logic was. Either that, or you have serious problems with reading comprehension. You say you are tied of spouting your nonsense and yet you keep responding. I'm not sitting around waiting for you to respond, my phone is always on me and when I get a notification, I answer it. Especially one that allows me to discuss science.... But seriously, please take some science courses. I don't say that trying to be mean.
@0MDerp, vaccinations don't lead to autism. 0%. I can't even argue beyond that. It's been proven. Multiple times. Many times. It just doesn't. You literally just need to google this...u don't even have to try hard...just google it. Seriously. Your 20 and havnt been vaccinated and are fine is literally all luck. Just because u weren't vaccinated doesn't mean ur gonna die. It means u better cross your damn fingers that u don't run into these diseases. And thus far u have been lucky. And I really hope u wise up and do it before it's too late
@RinOkumura, ur wrong. I hate to see it cause u seem so confident in your argument but the wrongness lvl here is crazy. What I'm reading here is @Tommy Pickles basically arguing that learning to read should be mandatory, and your arguing that reading shouldn't be taught.
@ShrookerOoker, What in the hell? First off, that wasn't the topic. Second, this ended like 8 years ago.
@Tommy Pickles, @RinOkumura, Girls girls... You're both pretty (:
@Tommy Pickles, you fight the good fight.
@TheAntiHistorian, anyone who doesn't immunize their kid is a prick. They are risking that other kids especially those with weaker immune systems will become exposed to a disease that even after taking a vaccine is not a hundred percent effective basically you're so concerned that people are calling you a bad parent, which without a doubt you are, were asp calling you and your child a health risk that will not be in the same classroom as everyone else.
@0MDerp, oh god please say you can't honestly believe what you posted. I mean I think there lead in your communities water supply or something if you all think it's even conceivable that they suddenly developed autism after a shot just because they seemed normal as an infant.
@new username 1, but they're not people at that point, just a little potato shaped clump of cells
My personal opinion (coming from a actual understanding of a vaccine) is that while they (the vaccine) does indeed immunities you almost 100% there are 2 flaws. 1) if you don't keep up your body will need to readjust to using its own resources to protect itself instead of the vaccines, which could actually have a very negative affect, such as actually catching the disease. To dodge this, either keep up with your vacs, or don't take them and build a natural resistance (note: I get my boosters every few years for polio, tetnis, etc... But I do not get things like the fly vaccine... And what do you know? I don't get the flu!) 2) the vaccine itself is fine, assuming you amended the issue previously stated. But, there is something that goes in with it that is undesirable for the human body, preservatives. These sons of bitches are meant to keep the vaccine pure until it's ready to use, but they can't take it our of the mixture. They have a negative affect on cells and can lead to a weak I.S
@Hiskid, I don't want to spur debate, but I do want everyone to actually think for themselves, especially when it affects another person
@Hiskid, you're spurring the debate by posting misinformation. Just curious, where does your "actual understanding of a vaccine" come from?
@Hiskid, yah, considering it's all very incorrect and baseless.
@Hiskid, If our bodies aren't naturally resistant to the disease, then how do we instantly or magically build up a resistance to it? If the body could do that reliably, then none of the Native Americans would have died when they received the blankets with smallpox.
@TheAntiHistorian "So how they raise their children isn't up to them?" No. It isn't. Not when how your raising your children is exposing them to fatal circumstances. Your allowing your child to live with the threat if possibly DYING from something that is 100% preventable through use of some basic 2nd grade common sense.