Animals understand death and it is part of their lives in the wild, particularly the predator/prey dynamic that every single species is affected by. It's dumb to say that eating meat is unnatural or unfair to the animals, when they'd do the same without a second thought if it suited them. However, it's not really good that slaughterhouses make the killing exceedingly painful just for the sake of efficiency. IMO we don't need to stop eating meat, but it would be good if the more unethical systems were made better (stuff like battery farms).
@YUNoJump, big facts.
@YUNoJump, eh. I'd rather we just grow meat in labs. Animals dont have to get slaughtered, we still get bacon.. oh and we can grow organs for transplants and stuff
@YUNoJump, I think also for the sake of efficiency and the environmental impact it would be better if people as a whole ate meat less often. Don't get me wrong I love a good steak but it's becoming unsustainable to have a nation of people who eat meat for every meal
@snek, the organs and transplants would be cool but the not killing animals would be bad, cows are too domesticated and we would have way too many pigs running around wrecking things without any hunting
@snek, do you want Dead Rising to happen? Because that's how Dead Rising happened
@Laurenkelly, ok you got me there.
@YUNoJump, only butcher shop Iv'e been to killed heifers with a loaded spring rod that is shot into the brain. It was instant. No weird nerve shakes or anything. Now hunting lodges, you want to see some cruel sh!t, go there. (Unbiased, experience with zero intent to challenge comment)
@Laurenkelly, I think the idea would be to stop breeding the farmed pigs - we eat the last "batch" - and then we move on to the lab grown stuff. We don't have to release any farmed pigs into the wild. (Was that what you meant?)
@snek, While possible practically, we'd have to come up with a process of mass production with a small enough percentile of disease and mutation so that it doesn't hurt the mass populace, that would take many years of research and potentially billions of dollars. Unless someone is willing to make that very risky investment, which may not even net that good of a profit margin, it's very likely that it won't ever happen
@Joseph V Stalin, no I just meant that wild pigs are already considered a nuisance, and a lot of places do an open season on them because of how many there are. they get huge and are very aggressive and without hunting their population would be out of control.
@Laurenkelly, ah, yeah, that! Gotcha. I think people are generally more okay with killing when it's e.g. pest control. Factory farms are way different :) and tens of billions per year, suffering in those cramped conditions...
@Joseph V Stalin, oh for sure! I just meant because the lab grown meat (to me it seems like most people who want that think killing animals at all is wrong) but yeah animal farming could probably be done a lot better, especially if you think about how much of that meat probably gets tossed because of not selling.
@Laurenkelly, for the record I'm fine with killing but not with suffering, so lab grown looks pretty sweet. But yeah, probably a while away, so for now we have to choose between our morals and our tastebuds 😭
@YUNoJump, preach sir. Thank you. I used to be vegetarian and people would come at me with arguments about how I needed to eat meat (I was generally the quiet one who didn't overly discuss being vegetarian, crazy I know, boyfriend didn't find out till a month in) and how it was normal and all. I would give that same exact argument. I have zero problem with eating meat. If I fish, I will eat it. If you hunted it and killed it with minimal suffering, I will eat it. I just don't want to support a business that puts efficiency and money over being sure animals aren't tortured.
@YUNoJump, and yet, the farmer that had an idea to shoot his cows, so they'd die in an instant without the other cows really realizing got scolded by the police.
PETA always makes sure they only use the term "minimise suffering" and avoid using terms like "save lives". Proven when they kidnapped a family dog without consent and "euthanized" it, them compensated with a fruit basket, because the life of a family dog is worth a bunch of stupid fruits
@Juicicle, holup they did what???
@bones82, euthanise an unattended pet dog (PETA claimed it was a mistake), like almost 99% of the pets they receive that were supposed to be adopted. Was video footage of them taking it and loading it into a vehicle I think. PETA cares not for lives. They just want to slaughter dogs and cats, dress up as animals, go nude in front of minors "for a cause" and rake in on the cash money.
@Juicicle, bro that is fùcked up. fùck peta.
@bones82, peta has strayed so far from their original agenda I don't even understand why people still give them money. They have done almost zero good work in their history.
Cannibalism is a solution to solving world hunger and reducing the over population...jus saying
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