That’s thinking ahead for the grim reasons
Imagine if Kanye wins...
Can it melt away all our mistakes
Goodbye America, will I ever love again?
@seeUpee, he can't win if he never even joined. He backed out before he was ever an official candidate.
@Your Waifu, oh I member...you happened to be the one to informe of that as I stopped following him... just saying... “imagine”
@seeUpee, It wouldnt be any worse than having a hyper religious president... if ive read his platform right.
@CocoasBro, agreed, there's a reason The Sex Pistols and pirate radios became so popular in England at a time of conservative radio censorship deciding what goes on the radio.
@seeUpee, will you ever love again? Idk
Will anyone ever love you? No
@BigJohnson86, oh wow... wow...
Who hurt you bro?
Who want to go to new Zealand? They have like curfews and are fighting to remove more and more of people's freedoms.
@phalcon , there are no curfews here but you are kinda right about the freedom thing........it’s a shame to see NZ (not to also mention the rest of the world) going down the crapper this year smh.
@Stu Dog, Kia Ora fellow Kiwi.
@phalcon , yes I'm from there but live in the states now. I talk to my parents alot about what's going there and I'm so glad I'm here and not there now more than ever. I love living in the states so much. They always talk about how "free" you are living in NZ but until I came here I never knew what real freedom was.
Well you might aswell throw out the biden folder of the american overthrow folder cause if those scenarios occur you wont be making many more memes afterwards.
@CocoasBro, why would he not be making memes? Will the internet cease to exist? Will he die? Will the fabric of reality unravel at exponentially increasing speeds? But seriously, what would stop him?
@Your Waifu, remember article 13? Leftists have been pro censorship and dogmatic authoritarianism for a while now. biden would most likely capitulate to a scrubing of the internet as well as many other things. While its not accurate to say there wont be any memes left the internet will be scrubbed of many of the things weve found endearing about it. Not quickly but eventrually .
@CocoasBro, okay, but why would he not be able to make memes if Americans overthrew the government? Last I checked the average American likes memes.
@Your Waifu, "Americans" wouldn't be over throwing America. BLM is openly planing to "lay siege" to the white house until election time. BLM is the sheep coat for the antifa wolf. We currently have Marxist insurrectionist parading as protesters, using the unfortunate deaths of people to pray on our baser nature's. These people are avowed racist that want to bring about segregation and "True" communism. They openly sad and they write about it, they are a death cult that is searching for Utopia. They're lead to believe they need to over throw the US to get it. The problem is the Dems unwittingly supported the movement.
Which honestly feels like a mirror from History. An openly white supremacist group creates violence and unrest in black neighborhoods to try to force them not to vote Rep.
@Your Waifu, because it would be the same people that love dogmatic authoritarianism, and censorship whispering in bidens ears that would do it. Atleast theyre the biggest group calling for revolution right now, but i guess technically you could make up any scenario to put any system or idealogy as the people who overthrew it. Its just the cultural marxists seem like the most likely candidates to me atm.
@CocoasBro, Article 13 was a EU thing, and Joe Biden will not become president because there are patriots in government agencies who will launch a coup. They almost did it to Obama but decided to wait for the 2016 election.
@Chula Charlie, I wouldnt be so concerned with biden if he was so weak willed and mentally frail. I cant trust the dude not to bend to the racists that are so widespread on the left.
@CocoasBro, Trump is our only lord and savior, right?
@mas2de, only hope for people who dont want racists to take control over america.
@CocoasBro, well I can just sleep all day today in hopes that I don't hear anything more stupid than that comment. Your almighty Drumpf is the most racist president we've had in modern times, and not only that, but he thinks he is some kind of overlord that ignores his advisors, and fires anyone that disagrees with him, and replaces them with one of his buddies that many times have absolutely zero experience in that field. You know how Stalin photoshopped people who disagreed with him out of photos? That's pretty much what Trump is doing, because he wants to be a dictator
@Not him again, yup its trump and the right who think youre oppinion only matters base on youre race, sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity ( intersectionality) its trump supporters who are killing random people in the streets for the color of their skin. Its trump supporters who are bringing race into every topic as if it matters. Its trump supporters who want people hired based entirely on youre race. Its trump supporters who litterally stand out in mobs and openly say they hate an entire race. Its trump who wants to censor anyone who disagres with them. Its trump supporters purging thought criminals from the internet. Its conservatives who are going in every nation arresting people for disagreeing with them.... oh wait thats you retards. God youre so stupid it hurts can you even name one racist thing hes said?
@Not him again, you sit there and call him q dictator the sheer audacity of that statement. When youre side is litterally attacking people in the fvcking streets because of thier RACE! For DISAGREEING with them. For litterally just passing by. Youre side litterally wants government control of everything but were the dictators somehow. The libertarian/conservative/liberal alliance who are HORRIFIED at the authoritarian retards who want people to go to prison for getting a pronoun wrong. California is LITTERALLY getting rid of a part of their state constitution so that they can discriminate based on race pushed by the left but oh its donald drumpf and his supporters that are the real racists despite never having said anything actrually racist and falling basically on bill clinton on the political spectrum.
@CocoasBro, ah yes, keep eating up his garbage that he spews. And I don't know what short bus you got off of saying its "us", and somehow thinking I'm a leftist liberal just because I think Trump is the same manipulative blowhard he always has been his entire life. As a matter of fact, I'm a right leaning conservative, but I'm not going to vote for him because he is a maniac with blatant disregard for the American people, with extreme ties with many Russian oligarchs. Fires anyone in government that stands up to him only to replace them with unqualified friends of his. Maybe try watching something other than CNN and Fox who cradle his balls nonstop.
@Not him again, and as a result you will end up with open borders, people being arrested for wrong think, youre guns will be taken away, and youll be assaulted in the streets because youre not part of the right thinkers. But go ahead youve been shown a bunch of out of context clips about trump so totally side with the democrats who hate you and are actively hunting people similar to you in the streets right now.
@Not him again, you think cnn craddles his balls? You really are misinformed.
@CocoasBro, that's funny, I dont seem to remember any of guns being taken away during the 8 years Obama was president. I bet you're the type of person who will walk into a store that has huge signs posted that you are not permitted without a mask, and go off on a rant about how they are intruding on your "constitutional rights". Do the world a favor, don't reproduce
@Not him again, the left has gotten far more radical since obama. It is night and day. The spokesman of the DNC litterally came out and apologized for being white. Are you ok with that? California is getting rid of part of its constitution so that they can discriminate based on race are you ok with that? The left is openly for open borders now are you ok with being flooded by billions of people? Look at britain look at germany theyre putting people in prison for mean words on twitter do you agree with that? They quite literally cheered on killing a trump supporter the other day thats gonna be you one day if we dont lock this sh!t down. But oh i guess you were force fed propaganda about drumpf being a racist and a dictator even though hes never said anything racist and he litterally passed up emergency executive power so i guess hes worse than people who litterally want to "abolish whiteness"
@CocoasBro, please learn how to spell, and how to read as well, because I guess you missed the part where I was a right leaning conservative. And I never said Trump was a dictator, I said he WANTS to be one. I guess you must have been temporarily deaf when he said "12 more years", or all the times he downplayed Covid, got CAUGHT in his lies, and STILL tried to spin it in a way that made him sound like he was in the right. I actually thought he was doing pretty well for about the first 10 months or so, and then he went right back to being the same egotistical megalomaniac that he's always been
@Not him again, Lol thats your reasoning for trump being a dictator. Do you honestly have any idea how pathetic that reasoning is? Youre gonna ignore the democrats passing laws based on race, killing people in the street, quite literally having burned people alive, arguing for censorship, arresting people for mean words on twitter , beating random people in the streets based on race, getting rid of constitutional ammendments designed to prevent discrimination based on race specifically to discriminate based on race. But Trump is a dictator who cant be in office again because he made a joke of being president for 12 more years and downplayed cornavirus.
@Not him again, I find the end of his thread to be barren. @Cocoasbro is right, but with out added context sounds mad.
I'd like to know a few things from you. What would you consider modern history? Because that's a weasel word term that is disingenuous for conversation. And as of "friends" he hires, do you include Barr, or are you complaining about his cabinet?
Even with the hysteria @Cocoas was speaking do you still consider it a better alternative to allow Biden the presidency? Biden is capitulating to the Socialists and the Marxests. He is openly adopting their platforms and using they're rhetoric to try to garner their votes. They are in open jubilation of this, saying "it is easier to overthrow an old man then a fascist."
These supporters are violent revolutionaries. Gleefully killing their opposition, and holding their dead as martyrs.
The Dems has started to openly admit, that if they don't win, they will accept the results of the election and there will be violence in streets.
@That one lurker, there is going to be violence either way this election pans out. I will say this for the last time: I'm not really a dem or rep, but I definitely lean to the conservative side, Trump is just the same ole manipulative person he always has been. I know plenty of die hard reps that hate him. How can you still sit here and like him? By far the most racist, overbearing president in our times.
@Not him again, dude, you answered non of my questions and repeated your self. Makes you sound really disingenuous.
But, I'll play.
"There's going to be violence either way" oblivious to the direction and the cause. The dems "threaten" that "the only way they'll be a peaceful transition of power is if Biden wins in a landslide." Do you find that interesting, there is no mirror to it. I think this was quoted from The NYT.
I didn't inferr in no way that you were Dem or Rep. But please share some of your conservative principles. Because unless if you're a neocon, I'd expect that you would like Trump.
As for your die-hard Raps comment, the people are woefully misinformed, but most of them that now about him with facts are neocons, and they are hating the peace agreements going on now.
Lastly could you give any evidence on the last part that you say. I don't want any waffling, just tell me how he's most racist, and what was the last racist president? Just tell me that.
@That one lurker, I'm not re-reading through all of what I said. The man has continually blamed the blacks for violence (and no I'm not black), blames democrats (which I also am not, as I've repeatedly stated that I am a right leaning conservative). The man has huge ties with Russia, stemming back long before he became president. I'll say it again, he literally fires anyone who disageees with him, only to replace them with one of his buddies. I actually liked him for the first year or so (which I'm again "repeating myself" as you call it), and then quickly switched back to his egotistical ways. He is doing everything in his power to rig the election. He outright lies, and then says "the democrats did it". I can't believe how people like you still like him, but it's a free country...for now
@CocoasBro, all of which you said is true, only it's Trump and his supporters doing it all. His "12 more years" statement was definitely not a joke. You're just another brainwashed MAGA hat wearing fool. Can you honestly sit here and say that Biden, who was Vice President to the first black President, is somehow inciting these riots? I really wish they would give an IQ test before people can obtain a voting card...but let me guess, you were part of SEAL Team 6 that took out Bin Laden? Get over yourself. I'm not here to say Biden would be the best President, but your boyfriend Trump surely will do worse. And for the last damn time, I never said he is a dictator...I said he WANTS to be one
@Not him again, he blamed the blacks for violence? Or did he blame "black lives matter" a socialist insurrection group whose founding members are avowed Marxist. The organization that's rioted for roughly a hundred and three days straight in Portland. A group that has led to the deaths of 33 people roughly 15 of which was direct causation. If I'm getting this wrong and he is blaming other people, please get me the facts. I am vehemently against racism and racists. That's one reason why I oppose white nationalist from left or right.
If I am right about my first statement of "black lives matter" then this second is true too. The Democrats actively support the rioting, and they've pushed their messaging. Spending tax dollars to write it in the streets illegally. Then when other people want to use their free speech the same Governors shut everything down.
@That one lurker, dems support protest, not riots, as your butt buddy will make his "patriots" will lead you to believe. For the last time, I'm not a Democrat, and the only thing left about me is my dominant hand. I can't stand the left liberals, but I also don't support a lying sell out. Get off whatever MAGA horse you seem to have your ass firmly planted on. Try watching some of the many documentaries of the man, which stem far, far before he became president. Oh, you might like the one where Russian oligarchs did everything they could to get him to run for president back in the 80's, you know, because they bailed him out of bankruptcy multiple times due to his numerous failed business ventures. Wear a mask, and maybe read a book or two...that is if you know how to read, which I'm not sure you do, considering you have either ignored or twisted all of my replies to you. Maybe you should join the "illegal" immigrants that are locked in camps and losing their children.
@That one lurker, tell me again how he isn't racist
@Not him again,
Where do I keep calling you a Dem?
When reading someone you don't agree with, calm down and reread. You're acting as hysterical as CocoasBro.
Both parties support protest.
Both parties have different definitions of what a protest is.
A protest stops being a protest when the rocks and molotovs start being thrown.
Look at the on-the-ground reporting going on for Portland. Andy ngo has documented every single interaction between the people at Portland versus the cops.
Are you telling me that Trump is a product of Russia, works for the Russians or is in some way a plant from the Russians? And we have documentary proof of this, and none of it was used by the Democrats in the first run for impeachment telling the Mueller investigation? We're by the end they openly admit to finding zero evidence for the russiagate conspiracy.
But we have documentaries.
That is fine.
Who are these documentaries made by?
And why did the fbi not have access or did not care about this
@That one lurker,
I'm going to ignore the attempt of an insult.
Because you didn't answer my previous question and you didn't substantiate your previous response.
Do you understand what the Detention Center is.
If not then it is completely understandable why you believe that they are camps, and how they are losing "their" children.
We have a very porous border with Mexico. It's been a problem in the United States for generations. Illegal aliens are a burden on small towns and our social safety nets.
One of the biggest problems facing illegal aliens, is the human trafficking.
The main reason why there's two separate holding facilities for the illegal aliens and the children is that it is needed to keep the child safe in case the adult they came there with was not their parents or legal guardians.
Dreadfully enough the majority of the footage shown at one of these facilities was under Obama's tenure.
@That one lurker, so if we want to go for a Tit for Tat, Obama is the most racist presidents and recent history. Because he made the cages.
@CocoasBro, I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but the man's entire platform for his 2016 campaign was "BUILD THE WALL TO KEEP ALL THE MEXICANS OUT". Repeatedly made claims that people of color are responsible for almost all crime. Stands behind the police even though there is clearly racial bias going on. Now before you go twisting (and probably misspelling my words), I highly support and respect police, troops, and all other first responders, but will admit there are some bad apples (myself having been a victim of such several times when I was younger, and omg, I'm white, just makes no sense huh?)
I dont condone any of these protests, violent or peaceful, because all it does is add fuel to the fire, and your prophet Trump just blames all the dems, when in fact he is in the position to actually do something about it. Is Biden a good choice? No, but whatever it takes to get Mr. 12 more years out of office
@That one lurker, much of what I'm referring to in the documentaries I speak about happened long before he became president, and the FBI DID look into it, and you bringing up Mueller only hurts your argument. He started looking into the allegations of Russian interference and just so happened to resign from his lifelong career of being a US Attorney and oh, a former director of the FBI. Sure, Obama built those cages, but that was not the intended use until President Camacho came to be and just started rounding up everyone he could due to Mexican descent. Many of whom were legal US citizens. Hit me with another one champ. Are you going to vote twice, as Trump instructed Republicans do, because mail in votes can be fraudulent?
@Not him again,
Send me the clip of Trump saying that. "Build the wall to keep all the Mexicans out."
Send me the clip of him saying "people of color are responsible for almost all crime."
I don't care what you condone, if they wanted to protest what was thought at the time to be the unlawful death of a man, then let them have at it. We have the First Amendment in this country and in it it admits that we have it an unalienable right given to us by God to peaceably assemble.
Peaceably is key. It was admitted 92% of the protests was "peaceful" even though they kill, pillage and burn.
The reason why there's a direct reference to the Democrats is because Trump actively asks these places if they want help. But they continuously refuse help from the National Guard. Allowing their citizens to suffer to put it back on Trump.
I bet you didn't even know that, I bet you still don't know what's going on. You're perfectly okay when Obama does something but the moment Trump does it. 🍊man bad.
@That one lurker, I'm so sick of this "orange man bad" crap. And the democratic governors that are "refusing" help from the National Guard, aren't refusing, they are asking for more, which he will not do, and then twists it around to make it seem like they are "refusing" help, as you claim. Honestly both parties are to blame for the continuation of these "protests" that lead to an increasing level of violence.
As far as a clip goes, those may not have been his exact words. I guess you may not have heard, but a panel of federal judges rejected both his notion to not include illegal residents in the census, as well as his move to make a question on the census paperwork asking if they were in this country illegally. And he may not have said those exact words, but the intention was just that. I'm not going to dig through his campaign promises that he has failed to achieve any of. Billions of dollars spent on his "wall", that covers about 200 or so miles...
@That one lurker, the rest is crummy fencing that a 3 legged dog could walk through. Almost has us in a war with China, and will if re-elected. Reignited the cold War with Russia, even though thats where all of his money came from, aside from his rich daddy. He is a con man, and always has been. He just spews what he thinks people want to hear, and people like you eat it up. Remember back in the 80's when he tried to build that mega casino, and conned people out of millions, only for it to never even be fully completed? Did he accept responsibility and say how everyone told him it was a terrible idea? No, and he did it anyway, and then blamed all of his advisors saying they mislead him, when in fact, they were the ones who told him not to do it all along, just like he ignores his advisors in the White House. Guess who got him back on his feet? Russians, who knew back then that he could be manipulated for money, and have been trying to get him into presidency since the early 80's...
@That one lurker, but deemed it a bad idea at the time due to his financial woes. When you have high ranking government officials getting fired by the very man they are investigating, some who have written books about how he lies to the public, about Covid, about the riots, just about anything he can in order to make people think he is America's savior, and the minute blame is put on him, he shifts it to whoever he can blame it on. Seriously, drink some water, and not the Kool Aid.
@Not him again, show me the proof. I like searching out for information. That's why I know you've been talking with yourself this whole time. Do you even know about the Peace Accords. We may finally have peace in the Middle East with a two state solution.
China has turned into a nazistic state. Not by hypeherbally but by actions, fitting every one of the requirements, including concentration camps for the uighur Muslims.
He has eased off tentions with Russia, by just saying no to them and stopping Obama's mass bombing campaigns.
Just aside are you saying it's a good thing that illegal aliens are counted towards house seats? Cause if you are I'm not quite sure what's conservative about you.
To continue, I don't understand what you're complaining about with the wall. He's replaced 200 miles of fiance and and closed it with a second fence, sometimes a third. So he's built roughly 400 miles. The other fencing wasn't him.
@Not him again, I went ahead and did 4 hours of digging. The 1987 quote that you keep spouting out about, is from Jonathan Chait. I'll post the full article here.
The basic gist is that he thinks the steele dossier is a credible source of information. A document funded by the DNC, delivered by a english spy. This was later released by Buzzfeed, and reach National status for roughly a week, about that time people had read it and found it to be bunk. Two months later and the BuzzFeed dossier gets re-released by CNN. The media goes apesh@t over the exact same dossier. Culminating into piss gate.
So named because by the dossier Trump bought two Russian hookers and stayed in the president's suite. Trump had the two girls pįss on the bed the Obamas slept in. Trump then excused himself to walk in the bathroom to shout "I hate black people".
This guy is a conspiracy theorist, you're quoting the Steele dossier.
@Not him again, ok, it was late at night. Maybe you didn't see. I'll ask this, since I want to learn as much as possible.
On your claim "and the democrats governors that are "refusing" help from the National Guard, aren't refusing, they are asking for more, which he will not do."
Could you send me an instance where a Democrat governor asked and didn't get help.
I know for instance, Laura Lightfoot and the Portland governor has condemned Trump for asking.
If you could send that my way I'd be very much appreciative.
@Not him again, yeah mexican isnt a race dude and you need to chill. Trump very obviously doesnt want to be president for life stop taking autisticly clinging to a joke as if it means something. If he wanted to be a dictator he would have used the emergency powers instead of leaving the decisions up to the governors. There have been plenty of opportunities for him to sieze more power for the federal government and he instead chooses to give up power instead.
Now lets get back to the left. They killed a trump supporter in the streets the other day and cheered about it. Do you honestly think your daddy biden who barely even condemed the rioting after the 100th odd day of burning american cities is gonna stop it? He didnt even condemn antifa or BLM just rioting in general so if you think that hes gonna stop anything or protect you for being killed in the streets for being the wrong race your dead wrong.
@Not him again, Trump is the only solution Biden will not stop the radical left. Only trump if you vote for biden they WILL steam roll him and take control.
"Myself having been a victim of such several times when I was younger, qnd omg, I'm white, just makes no sense huh?"
Are you retarded the whole police discriminating based on race was your fvcking argument to begin with..... your not reading a single thing ive written have you.
@That one lurker, oh fvck off im not hysterical.
@CocoasBro, when talking to a member of the opposition you go at them in good faith. A calm and even hand with no name calling, even if it doesn't convince them, will convince others by the sheer contrast.
I agree with you that the man's afflicted with TDS. I wouldn't call him retarded thou. He thinks he has hidden facts, by bad info. He's opinionated just like you. And like you he knows his facts are real. I know where you're getting your stuff from, and I know it to be true. Any person that can read can see his hard pivots, his self-serving remarks, and his fabrications. Because he set him self, like you have, to have the facts. So I ask proof with the intent to prove himself wrong.
This can be placed as hysterics because any person with the prior knowledge would see you as a rambling conspiracy theorist. I know you're right cause I got your knowledge, I know he's full of it cause he has no clue what he's talking about. But you both see yourselves as right. That's the problem.
@CocoasBro, it’s actually amazing how little critical thinking capacity you have. FYI you’re in a case study of echo chambers in alt right meme culture
@Can yew knot, wow you think im alt right? Thats pretty telling about your critical thinking ability if you think im alt right.
@That one lurker, that doesnt make me hysterical dude. Not nice.
@CocoasBro, I like to think of it as talking a person off of a Ledge. Do you convince the man, or describe gravity. Is the problem that he doesn't know that it's going to kill him, or is it that he's convinced it's the only way? We make the world better by deradicalizing people, not posting facts with double birds up high, as you moon walk out the room.
@Can yew knot, not alt right per se. Since theirs not much of a definition of the term. Alt right is a catch all negative term that describes nothing. If you could name me some of the policies and describe alt right, that would be cool, but a personal description. Since its mostly used as a derogatory slur.
What about memes if democrats attempt state succession and civil war after Trump victory? Their crazy enough to try that, even though it didn't work the last time.
@Chula Charlie, would it be a loss to loose California?
I am so confused about Kanye and the election. I keep hearing alternating stories between him being eligible and ineligible for an independent run.