Before all the Brits, Americans, and Russians start arguing over who did more, let's just all agree we did more than France
@Lord Commander Snow, battle of Dunkirk, the French did a ton, and the days following.
@Vladimir Putin, yea, but the french also fought for the germans so...
@Vladimir Putin, I typed out a sizable list of the other battles that the other allied powers fought in but it failed to send. France fought one major engagement that they lost and only held out because hitler held back his tanks for repairs. I respect all the men who fought for the French but their contribution to the war was minimal compared to other allied powers
@MCPO S117, also that's not exactly fair. Vichy France was only a government set up by the Germans. French volunteers for the German army were pretty small
@Lord Commander Snow, i know i was just hanging out on the "beat up on france" bandwagon, im well aware of the pretty crucial role the french resistance played in the preparation of the invasion if normandy
@Lord Commander Snow, to be fair france was definitely outclassed against Germany, i mean it was Germany. The country known for it's amazing weaponry. If fact Germany would have beaten England if not for the fact that England's navy was the best in the world
@the toast rider, o no doubt. If hitler hadn't made some very bad decisions planning wise, Germany would almost have certainly won the war, wiping out France, Britain, and Russia at insane speeds. The German war machine was arguably the best to ever exist.
@Lord Commander Snow, I would have to disagree with your comment by stating that the roman army was the best.
@Vladimir Putin, yeah they did loads of surrendering
@shane1395, another of the best. I'd say you could make points for either. I think the Romans ability to maintain their empire sets them apart but strictly militarily speaking the Germans ability to conquer most of Europe in less than 3 years is unprecedented military success. They also simultaneously fought 4 global super powers and damn near won. Rome wasn't built in a day but Nazi Germany was (figuratively speaking of course)
@Lord Commander Snow, hahaha that one downvote from a French dude no doubt
@Lord Commander Snow, Greek Fire, that is all
@Lord Commander Snow, I agree, while people may agree who did more
@Lord Commander Snow, I agree, while people may argue over who did more, if all of them weren't involved. None of them would still be around.
And just to toot America's horn a little bit here, I think the biggest role America provided was moral. They came in and helped free country's from Nazi's rule and gave people hope.
@the toast rider, Yeah. The Mauser Kar98K outclassed all other rifles until America stepped in with the M1 Garand and other self-loading weapons, and the MG-42 was a devastating crew-served weapon. If Hitler had approved the MP-43 assault rifle the first time he was shown the plans, Germany wouldn't have fallen so easily, if at all.
@The New Night Guard, slightly off topic, does anyone see Kar98K and think "Karrot"? That's always the first way I see it and kinda ended up calling it that as a nickname.
@ tangly parrot, well, with WWI fresh in their minds, wouldn't you? They lost six million troops in the first world war. They didn't want to fight and die if they'll win with half the population surviving. Again
Hey guys, the Germans did a lot of work too...
@Ajr412, In a CoD point of view, the Germans are the players who ignore the objective and just focus on their k/D killing everything in sight. While the Americans are the players that focused on the objective constantly going for it no matter how many deaths they got and THE AMERICANS won the match. #PTFOorGTFO. (I just woke up, leave my morning thoughts alone, down voters!)
@I should go, that sounds pretty accurate tho
@I should go, Kind of ironic, given the game-ending killstreak America used near the end.
I mean... the war in the Pacific... fighting Japan... yup.
@KillerdoomSky, What? Nooooooo, you see all Americans are lazy and day so we can't do that.
@KillerdoomSky, and providing most of the supplies, men, and planes for Normandy, the western front, and Italy
@Tskune Aono, I mean. We did it from ships. So all we did was play on computers anyway. I never said we actually got off our a$$es.
@KillerdoomSky, not to mention the majority of soldiers who died taking back France that Europe lost were American
@dont hate masturbate, yeah that is a very good point as well. If you get the chance watch "band of brothers." Its a great hbo series all about that. I loved every minute of it
@KillerdoomSky, please tell me you did not just actually say the men in the Navy were lazy, please tell me you were joking
@MCPO S117, of course im joking. I would never disrespect any of the armed forces. My cousin and uncle were both in the navy and I respect the shjt out of them for it.
@KillerdoomSky, okay thank god, its just you cant always see sarcasm on the internet :P
@MCPO S117, haha yeah I understand that one :D
@KillerdoomSky, I loved band of brothers, it was such a great series. I just love Damian Lewis in it.
@KillerdoomSky, yea computers in 1940, you must be really good at history.
@KillerdoomSky, they made a follow up on that show... for the war in the pacific... I can't think of the title right now, but it's almost as good as band of brothers...
@SparkySparky BoomMan, the military actually did have computers, not anything near what were used to but the had very basic machines.
@SparkySparky BoomMan, just hope u know that The US military had GPS systems back in the Second World war. The difference being they transmitted from planes not satellites. So yea its very likely they had computers.
@NunuGod, so we won the war by using GPS then?
@SparkySparky BoomMan, im replying to your 'computers in 1940, u must be real good at history' comment.
I don't want to rain on this parade but ww2 couldn't have been won if not for the u.s just like how it couldn't have been won without England or the Soviet Union
@Weyland Yutani, more like it couldn't have been won if not for the relentless spirit of Russia, the super navy of England, and Albert Einstein
and tater tots
@the toast rider, if u.s.a had not helped they would all be speaking german
@the toast rider, and then Germany would have gotten us too, it is a good thing for all that we helped. Not to mention we fought in the Pacific and took down japan
@the toast rider, Albert Einstein was not on Mahatten project and it did not win the war it reduced the casualty list. This meme more appropriate to ww1.
@KMN, ummm you do know what the equation e=mc^2 was used for. And it was because if the nukes that Japan surrendered. Im pretty sure that getting nuked will deter you from fighting
@KMN, you basically just said what i was saying. The nukes ended the war. How can you say that Japan didn't stop fighting because of that. Do you know what a nuke can do? The devastating affects are still affecting the japanese today.
@the toast rider, so would months of bombing and isolation from all of your supplies.
@PB4UGAMER, that was an option however it wasn't the option chosen. The nuke ended the war but it wasn't the only option the us had it was just the option that would lead to the least amount of casualties
@the toast rider, The nuke didn't end the war. The nuke was flashy and impressive, but the war was lost long before it fell. The U.S. was already begin operations for storming all of the Japanese islands. It would have cost an estimate 2-3 million US soldiers, but we would have won without the atomic bomb.
@Weyland Yutani, Yeah. France had fallen (no surprise) and for a short time, Britain was the only country at war with the Axis. Then Hitler attacked the USSR and the assault lasted until winter (much to the misfortune of the Germans) and the USSR joined to fight Germany and Japan, with whom it had past quarrels. Then the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, the USA declared war on Japan, then Germany and Italy declared war on the USA, and the rest is history. History that has made some pretty good movies and video games.
We did "join late" but we provided a crap ton of assistance with loans, grants, and leasing ships and tanks before we officially joined.
@Bellith, we also had more military casualties than any other Western European ally. But holy crap - look up Russian casualties.
Actually, both world wars ended within one year of AMERICA joining the war....and most historians say America was a HUGE part of the victory. Also, the allies could not have won if not for the industrial strength of the U. S. ....america produced more materials for the war than any other nation....over 49,000,000,000 rounds of ammunition and 60, 973 tanks....if you dont believe me go to http://www.nationalww2museum.org/learn/education/for-students/ww2-history/ww2-by-the-numbers/wartime-production.html.......Now all you 'Murica haters better take a seat cuz you just been told.
@Anoop, I think what the meme was trying to get across is that while all other allied powers were fighting relentlessly, America joined in late and claimed that it had pretty much won the war for them, and while they of course helped a great deal, the war would never have been won without the significant help of the other allied powers such as Russia, Britain and France etc.
@Anoop, America joined 2.5 years before the end of WW2 other than that you are correct
1941 is not late. We were late in WWI, (US involvement 1917, war ends 1918) and take far too much credit for that. The whole reason for the fall of Hitler's Europe and the collapse of the Japanese Empire was due to the involvement of the United States of America.
If the name is Enola Gay then I accept the statement.
@JacketOff, Why not Bockscar?
*prepares popcorn and awaits the coming flame war*
I mean all you europansies were losing bad until we jumped in!
@thegoalie, that's actually false the war was won when Russia realizing that the us was about to jump in kicked it's army into overdrive the us provided weapons but barely had anything to do with the war in europe. The us however fought with Japan and the only reason they were able to win was because they used the information from a FOREIGNER to develop the most devastating weapon of all time.
@the toast rider, you need a history lesson.
@mazemarble, how can you say I'm wrong without an explanation?
@the toast rider, battle of the Atlantic: 18000 men lost. Operation Torch: 6000 lost. Battles of Sicily, guettar, Salerno, Monte cassino, 112,000 lost. Metz, Normandy, Brest, Nancy. Battle of the bulge. Those are just some of the many European battles the United states fought in. To say that we didn't do anything or to insinuate we didn't save Europe is wrong. It couldn't have been done. We did join late. But we did shjt.
@deveranmar, I wouldn't say you saved it tho. Don't get me wrong, you guys did a lot. But fresh morale is what really helped. You guys were right pissed cause of Pearl Harbour and jumped right in there and gave those already fighting a well needed breather to rally and drive everything home. To say you saved Europe is a stretch tho.
@deveranmar, although my message makes it seem like i think america did nothing that's not what the case is. I just don't believe that america saved the day because they didn't .
@the toast rider, without America joining, Japan wouldn't have stopped it foray into the Pacific and China, and Germany would remain unstoppable. I'm not saying we did it singlehandedly but we did save Europe.
@the toast rider, there is a thousand books on it, pick a few with good ratings and enjoy. British historians accept they were not going back without help. US did not do all, but they did a lot of the hard work.
@KMN, i wouldn't say the hard work as much as they did help turn the tide. Hard work is subjective as to me England did a lot of the hardwork as they did a lot of the fighting.
SALUTE OUR SOLDIERS! *does nazi salute*
Im sorry who was getting their butts handed to them, russains did more than us and had hard fighting, but the brits were struggling even with lend/lease and cash and carry, also who basically topple the japs almost dongle handedly?
@fetus meatus, Dongle handedly is the funniest spelling mistake I've seen someone make.
@Bangus the Endowed, i didnt even notice that, man thats funny
@fetus meatus, Sounds like something Ned Flanders would say.
@Bangus the Endowed, truuuuuue lol
@Bangus the Endowed, righty you are neighborino
America pretty much paid for the war and built most of the war materials that the allies used. That being said, the war was decided on the eastern front. It was 4X the size of the Western front. And France has no excuse. At the beginning of WW II, France had the largest army, and largely considered the most advanced. If they had attacked when they declared war on Germany, they would have swept the Germans pretty quick. It was a group effort in Europe. America Russia and England were all important.
*Came in late while the entire allied front was losing
Make freedom posts and no one bats an eye, make posts about american history which is not bloated out of perportion and everyone loses their mind
@Brightlight, But it IS bloated out of proportion...that's why everyone's so offended...
none of us have been in ww2 so we have no idea what we're talking about...but that's none of my business
I basically sold you all your tanks and guns and ships and stuff.
well, we basically took out Japan single handedly and before we joined the European theatre Britain and Germany were only bombing each other. it wasn't until operation overlord (D-Day) that the Brits even set foot on occupied territory
@Lord Commander Snow before all the Brits, Americans, and Russians start arguing over who did more, let's just agree that without the U.S. large parts of Western Europe would be speaking Russian
This should be a good guy Greg. And we didn't start it but no one can deny we sure as hell ended it.
Yeah. Two years late to a seven-year war. Make no mistake, America didn't do all the work, but if we hadn't stepped in the Axis Powers would have won. What then?
We only joined late because everyone else was talking sh!t about America meddling in other countries' affairs, so we were trying to remain neutral. Then the Japanese made it personal, WWII could have gone very differently if they had listened to Hitler and left us alone. Just sayin.
@KermitSmash, the far bigger reason for the Axis defeat in world war 2 goes to how Hitler chose to invade the Soviet Union in operation Barbossa rather than the united kingdom in operation Sea lion, had they attacked the UK, victory would have been almost certain, not to discredit the US's role in the war, but it definitely wasn't as massive as a lot of other factors
*Waits for the "historians" to say that we did*
It was actually just Europe War 3,476,432 until the U.S. got involved... Then it became a world war
@LeShook, It was a world war before US got involved, Japan was in it, so we're Australia, Canada, China, and India. It was a world war from the start.
@LeShook, What about us Canadians? We were in there before you were. Helping out our mother Great Britian.
"The last two percent is the hardest to get. That's why they leave it in the milk"
I think Germany did the most work
@CrusaderOfKorea, tell that to England
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