I don't know about you, but I feel it would be cool to use those criminals as guinea pigs in experiments. They'll either die a possibly painful death, or provide us with useful results. Win-win
@Kangaroo Jacked, or like, do gladiator battles wagering their years in prison. And civilians can pay to enter battles with them for a chance at cash prizes
@Kangaroo Jacked, I think that would be considered a cruel or unusual punishment and that's illegal in the USA
@Welcommatt, I think you just described the plot of Death Race
@ChaoticStarWhale, that's why they "volunteered" by being cruel themselves.
@Kangaroo Jacked, What if you're wrongly accused of it but you didn't do it
@Feelgoodbutter, don't they all claim that though?
@Kangaroo Jacked, I'm pretty sure that's cruel and unusual punishment.
@AnotherIdiot, yes but they have to be 100% sure it was them before testing if they're not, going to prison would be easier.
@Feelgoodbutter, they're Supposed to be "100% sure" before they're convicted. The system is Supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty."
@AnotherIdiot, People have been convicted but they were the wrong guy, it's rare but it still happens.
@Kangaroo Jacked, They would probably call it Laboratory 5.. if you gnome'sayin.
@Feelgoodbutter, agreed, it does happen. Less now though since many technological breakthroughs (like fingerprints, DNA, cameras everywhere, gps tracking..etc)
DNA alone is cause for proving innocence in many of those older cases, since they didn't have the technology at the time.
@AnotherIdiot, you can't forfeit your constitutional rights. I don't know if you're serious or not but that argument would never stand in a court of law
@Rick Grimes, of course it wouldn't. I know it wouldn't. The message this picture sends wouldn't either.
@AnotherIdiot, fingerprinting is actually the reason a lot of people get wrongfully convicted for crimes since it's usually a partial and many people have similar fingerprints.
@Rick Grimes, you can forfeit your rights. For example, you can give up your 5th amendment right if you choose and testify against yourself. Every day people give up their 4th amendment right when they get pulled over by cops and just let him search them or their vehicle.
@Kangaroo Jacked, and if they survive 10 experiments, then they die anyway. win-win
@Peeta Griffin, I'm sorry, but I believe I was talking about the 8th amendment
@Rick Grimes, I was just giving examples of constitutional rights that you can give up because you can forfeit them.
@Peeta Griffin, ok I should have been more clear. What I meant was you cannot forfeit cruel and unusual punishment. Also don't forget the sixth amendment :-)
@ChaoticStarWhale, but we can fix that. LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!
@Rick Grimes, Ok now I gotcha. We're on the same page
@Kangaroo Jacked, as long as there's alot of evidence & the crime was severe enough, I don't see the problem with your idea.
@Kangaroo Jacked, or become like one of those displaced bodies in fma
@Kangaroo Jacked, Great idea if only it wasn't cruel and unusual...
@Kangaroo Jacked, no offense, but that would be horrible.... Even if they are criminals they are humans, and should be treated fair. Sorry if I sound douchey.
@AnotherIdiot, yes but there are some cases where the wrong man was convicted and put to death you have to remember there will always be that chance
@Kangaroo Jacked, and it probably won't waist our tax money like executing them does
@Kangaroo Jacked, And it doesn't have to be thought of in a way that makes death a likely option. It could just be that one step under Capital Punishment is losing your privilege to NOT be part of these experiments. I think that is actually a REALLY good idea!
@Kangaroo Jacked, but...what happens if they accidentally make like the hulk or zombies or something?
@Kangaroo Jacked, what if they become superhuman as a result of the testing and have superpowers? That would be... Bad.
@Kangaroo Jacked, stop testing drugs on animals! Use death row inmates instead
Some people just deserve to be put down.(Rapists, child molesters, murders, women beaters, Nickelback fans, the kid that bullied me in 5th grade, ect.)
@CryingClown, you forgot clowns.
@CryingClown, 🎶one of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong🎶
@CryingClown, Nickelback fans just have the misfortune of being tone deaf. Don't kill them for it.
@CryingClown, You never know, the kid who bullied you may have turned into a rapist, child molester, woman beater, and/or a Nickelback fan.
@Grammatik fuehrer, shock therapy?
@CryingClown, I agree with with you. Some people shouldn't be allowed to live.
@sexyvampireprincess, yeah, I mean child molesters are just a subset of rapists, no repeats
@sexyvampireprincess, dang the music notes didn't work 😔
@CryingClown, etc include beiber right?
@CryingClown, you clearly forgot the Justin Beiber & Miley Cyrus fans, so switch out the Nickelback fans for them
@CryingClown, people who cut in line, people who blast music out of car windows, litterers, nazis, people who refuse to be polite, you know, the worst criminals there are.
@CryingClown, I got into this, but where?
@CryingClown, what about women who beat men?
@sexyvampireprincess, I can see them :D
@sexyvampireprincess, it's the murders…right?
@CryingClown, Justin bieber and his fans
@CryingClown, why does ecstasy have to be out down?? Unless you meant etcetera, in which case you need to spell-check.
@sexyvampireprincess, Yeah, it's unfair to judge a person based on their 5th grade self...
@CryingClown, Holy heck did I really post this, I door recall that xommeny and I usually remember all my comments...
*Grabs popcorn and finds nice comfy chair*
@MonkeyMonster, electric chair?
I have always been on the fence with this, due to how flawed our justice system is. I'd say, if someone kills someone, by accident or without planning, send em to jail. If we can prove malice and plotting, send them to some island way out and banish them.
@ Strider2k, i believe that's how Australia started.
@ Strider2k, I believe that it should be up to the victims loved ones to decide which choice would bring them peace, life in prison or death.
I feel like a murderer made this post
I'm for the death penalty in theory, but in practice we kill innocent people. So that's why I'm for life sentences. That way we end up killing them and innocent people might get cleared down the line.
Prepare for arguments in the comments
I feel like there's a difference between killing someone and murdering them. Like to me killing is a broad term and murdering is specifically wrong because you weren't justified. That's why people can use self defense as an excuse. And also I mean dang have you seen how hard it is to get someone the death penalty? If they are bad enough to actually be sentences then they deserve it in my opinion. That's why we have a system. Rant over. Also the next two pictures mention murder. Weird.
Down vote me if you want to. I personally think no one should be killed. If we sentence any criminal to death. Then who are we to say that we are better than them?
@Blazzlie, I'm agreeing with you so hard right now it's unbelievable
@Blazzlie, I agree to an extent with this comment. When something on the new pops up about a person who has murdered, or raped, or has done cruel things to animals, I get upset and mad of course. But then I read the comments about how people would kill them or how the person should die themselves or execute them.... And I think to myself "The difference between the person who committed the act, and the person commenting such horrendous acts, is the commitment itself. You're no less insane than the person." Then people always ask if it were me or my family, like they always do. And my response is that I would be full of hatred in the beginning, but hatred begets more hatred, and that gets me nowhere in the future. I do believe however once court and law arrests the person, then the sentence is what the sentence is. Like if someone receives death, I'm not going to fight for his freedom or him being let off. Or if a rapist is let go, I will not argue about the release. I'll just protect.
RWBY volume 2 out today.
Why don't we just let murderers choose a life sentence or a death sentence?
@Welcommatt, and then give them the other one.
I think there should be no "life sentences," that's a money game. I can understand ling sentences but life without possibility of parole should be converted to a death sentence..or slavery, or guinea pigs, something...with no rights and are kept alive only by the benefiting party..
@AnotherIdiot, *cough* cruel and unusual punishment *cough*
@Rick Grimes, *cough* prison is a cash cow for few, funded by the average Joe. *cough*
I'd rather get the death sentence than live in constant fear of getting butt raped
@pizzedraccoon, cockmeat sammich!
What is a society without justice? Some men may not mind spending his life in a comfy prison with friends and full healthcare and food and tv etc if he can go on a rape fest and molest kids and kill his neighbors...then turn himself innate the police station and begin his life of luxury.
This is gonna be great *puts on 3-D glasses*
What they should do is finally kill all those who have been waiting on death row for years and aren't getting out. Imagine how much space they'd have then.
@SadiraXMortus, and funding, if they used bullets instead of chems
@SadiraXMortus, I don't know about other states but I've looked it up in my state and there's like 3 people actually on death row. I don't think it's nearly as common as people think.
False. It is wrong to murder. So we kill those who are convicted of murder so that potential murderers are deterred from killing too. Jeez you'd think liberals could understand that
@Peeta Griffin, that and I am sick of my taxes keeping these punks alive. Either kill them or...no just kill them.
@TheProfoundDarkness, I don't understand why we have to make killing them so expensive. Just hang them or shoot them or something cheaper than lethal injection
@Peeta Griffin, agreed. Too much money goes to pandering all the wrong people. I guess all these people that don't understand have never seen first hand results of terrible crimes.
@Peeta Griffin, thank you!
@Peeta Griffin, what if they were innocent?
@Gnarzz, that's why you have to have a unanimous jury decision to put someone on death row. The whole argument of innocent people getting the death penalty is simply inaccurate. I don't have the source but I think there was like one confirmed case of an innocent being executed in recent history in America.
@Peeta Griffin, you can thank all of the left wing softies that think it's too inhumane. I mean a bullet to the head is gross yes, but it's quicker and cheaper than lethal injection. Lethal injection allows the person a few more minutes of crying and suffering (while there is no physical pain there is emotional [which is worse!])
@Peeta Griffin, Casey Anthony
@Peeta Griffin, 1% of people executed are innocent. So your "source" is wrong
@Schnitzel Taster , exactly. Shooting or hanging is quick and painless. That is if you support giving murdering rapists a painless death when they give their victims a painful death or even a painful life
@Gnarzz, how does your source know that they were innocent? The unanimous jury said otherwise. And what does Casey Anthony have to do with the death penalty
@Peeta Griffin, my source is an independent study done backed by the LA Times. People are executed and DNA evidence is discovered which would have exonerated them. And as for Casey Anthony, her trial is a testament to how flawed our system is and how a jury can be manipulated
@TheProfoundDarkness, while I'm all for the death sentence, it's much more expensive to pay for the public defenders defending them and appealing for them than just keeping them in a cell for life. MUCH more expensive actually. Just some info for your further arguments. Good luck!
Let's not forget that keeping horrible people alive in prison costs hundreds of thousands of dollars of TAX PAYER money a year. That money could be going to a better use don't you think?
Yea! ...I mean No! I mean... Curse you conflicted feelings!
I say give them the old double tap right now after their conviction.
I would rather bring back Gladiatorial events and let the killers and rapists fight each other to the death.
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No, you shouldn't kill them. What you should do is actually give them a life sentence rather than just letting them loose on the streets after a few years!
@JofferysGhost, yeah give them life sentence and then pay for their workout equipment, cable tv, and swimming pool for the rest of their life...oh yeah and free food for them. Its better than living in a nursing hime or on the street....
@Jaenelle, or you could not give them any of those things except basic meals twice a day.
@CaptainSwordsman, yes, but that would make too much sense...there are humanitarians that demand that prisoners be treated fairly and given entertainment and workout equipment. Im all for giving them ball and chains and a sledge hammer and making them do hard labor for the state and make them pay for their meals and for staying there.
@Jaenelle, You do realize th food is complete shjt right? Also, only a select few prisons have pools and those tend to be lower security prisons. How in the world would you force them to pay to stay at the jail? What if they don't pay? They're already in jail. And you can't just say death penalty because some of them don't deserve it. A lot of them do deserve it, but killing someone for certain reasons shouldn't be punishable by death.
@Yukimura, duh, they pay by working. If they refuse to work, then they get punished. Simple as that.
@Yukimura, what scenarios would murder not warrant the death penalty? Just curious
@Peeta Griffin, Someone's attacking you or your loved ones and you attack them back in defence, but take it a little too far and kill them. Getting into a random bar fight and hitting someone to where they fall down wrong and hit their head on something. Murders that aren't planned out or psychotic.
@Yukimura, first, if someone attacks me or my family, taking it too far is shooting more bullets into them after they're dead. Waste not. If I'm attacked I'm shooting to kill but that's a different subject. But Yea accidental murder is different. I'm talking about first degree premeditated murder
@Peeta Griffin, First degree premeditated murder is easily the worst. There's no coming back from that.
@Yukimura, I agree with your responses. If you kill someone and then they are later found innocent then it's too late to go back
@Peeta Griffin, If you see someone raping or trying to kill someone else, and then you shoot them, it's technically murder. Or if they had some other good, but illegal reason. I agree though that a lot of them do deserve the death penalty.
@ archiethesailor, where do you live? In Alabama you're allowed to use lethal force to defend yourself or others if you feel your/their life is in danger or someone is being raped or otherwise physically attacked.
@Peeta Griffin, Colorado, I don't know the state by state specifics, but I mean in general where, self defense is the only excuse. Nice to hear that Alabama has that though.
@ archiethesailor, that's why I'm glad I live here and I won't be living anywhere else. I like to know that if I defend my life with lethal force that I won't be thrown in jail
@Peeta Griffin, I'd say Texas too. Colorado seems to be moving down though, which is too bad because otherwise, it's a nice place.
@ archiethesailor, Texas isn't bad but it's not the best
@Peeta Griffin, Really? I've never spent more than a month down there, but I've always thought that it was the model state of what we want
@ archiethesailor, it has some pretty good stuff but for example you can't open carry a handgun in Texas. In some areas it's pretty good but in others it sucks. It has potential to be great but there's work to be done there
@Peeta Griffin, No open carry? Oh, I guess it does have a few problems.
@ archiethesailor, Yea that's why all the Texas open carry crap is getting attention. Their law is stupid. They're allowed to open carry a loaded long gun but not a handgun so they're trying to get a bill passed for handguns
@Peeta Griffin, At least they know that they have a problem.
@Peeta Griffin, here in the UK guns are banned altogether unless it's for use on a firing range as such. You can't store it in plain sight or carry one on your possession. To be honest I'm happy to e able to walk past a strange without thinking "they probably own a gun."
@JofferysGhost, I'm familiar with your laws over there... The problem is that criminals don't care if you're not allowed to carry them. That's why they're criminals. UKs violent crime rate is 4 times higher than in US. I feel good knowing I am armed to protect myself and knowing that there are others around me who would do the same for me. Those who are carrying a weapon for heinous acts are less likely to attack me if they know I can defend myself and they know there are others around who will fight back too.
@Peeta Griffin, true and you make a good point there. Although I do also believe that it makes it easier for criminals to get their hands on weapons that can cause more serious damage.
@Jaenelle, it costs millions more per inmate to execute than life sentence
@JofferysGhost, it might make it easier, but that doesn't mean it's not already easy for them to get one. What it does do is allow the law abiding citizens to defend themselves. It makes criminals think twice about attacking someone when they know that person could be armed. Outlawing guns only disarms those who would only use it to protect themselves or others.
@Peeta Griffin, how about we ban guns all together, we don't kill anyone, no one is put on a death sentence, and everyone lives happily in peace and we start fixing the problems so that no one has the need to kill anyone else for an unjust reason. I like the idea of a world with no need for guns or killing rather than the world we live in now.
@Gnarzz, when did an injection start costing more than a million dollars?
@Jaenelle, the appellate process. Did you think that once a person was given then death penalty that they were killed the next day? They sit on death row for years. And appellate court trials cost tons more than regular hearings
@Gnarzz, so, keep a guy in prison for 40+ years vs 10 years and maybe 3 trials... im very sure that the 10 years is gonna cost less then 40+ years. Also, the only cost would be for possible jurors, if they have a jury on appeals cases, the judge and the prosecutor, which both get paid the same amount no matter whose case they hear or work... the defendent should be the one paying for the defence lawyer and if they afford a defence lawyer and use the court appointed one, its a cheap guy that would have still been used in another case....
@Aftershock05, I like the idea of a world where we don't need guns to kill people and everyone is happy and eating cake together. But we don't have that. There are evil people in the world with evil intentions of harming me and mine and I will put lead in anyone who attempts to take what I have
@Jaenelle, do some research and come back to me with an intelligent argument. The statistics of evidence found decades later to exonerate convicted "murderers" is staggering. As a civilized society we must have a fail safe to our broken justice system. 1% of executions are done to innocent people. That is disgusting. Innocent people being put to death by a jury of our "peers". I've served on a jury. People are idiots and lawyers are corrupt.
I believe in an eye for an eye. You kill someone then you die, you rape someone then you get raped by other inmates, you steal then you have your belongings taken and given away to people who need them.
But what if he just forgot to save before he went on his murderous rampage?
Oh yeah kill criminals. Like the man today who, after spending 12 years in jail was exonerated because they found out he didn't rape that woman. Should have murdered him. Capitol punishment costs taxpayers more than keeping them in jail does. Murdering people won't undo their crimes.
The death penalty is in existence to serve as a deterrent to murder. Further, the death penalty is not murder as it lacks an innocent victim.
Then don't make it about killing, killing is just necessary. They should be removed because they're a danger.
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It's the 'eye for an eye' theory.
It would probably bring in a lot of money to have all death row inmates battle to the death in a big arena with crude medieval weapons and have people pay for tickets to be in the stands like the roman coliseum
I might be ok with the death penalty if we stuck by the "innocent until proven guilty" thing, but so often they don't have proof, strong evidence, not proof