The vast majority of mass shootings are committed by non-whites
@CHICKNUGMASTER, shhh let people play the race card
@CHICKNUGMASTER, Between 1982 and August 2019, 64 out of 114 mass shootings were initiated by White shooters. -statista.com 🤷🏻♀️
@Leslie Knope 2020, okay, but what about in just the last 10 years?
@Leslie Knope 2020, one white guy shoots a bunch of people 1 day out of the year. Statistically black people shoot their own kind, on average, every single day so 🤷♂️🤷♂️ as a matter of fact statistically African Americans commit 48% of the crimes in the entire USA but only make up like 14% of the population 🤷♂️🤷♂️ oops
@Leslie Knope 2020, looks like statista is using the mother Jones data set (they don't show the source, bit it lines up) which has been criticized for 2 primary reasons.
1. They utilize news reportings only instead of using direct contact with law enforcement, and
2. They've been inconsistent with their definition of mass shooting because most institutions are inconsistent about it.
I'd advise simply Googling every mass shooting this year and checking their race yourself (this is what I've done), and you'll see that often a shooter's race is officially "unidentified "when they're clearly identifiable from a picture. When you consider these "unidentified " mass shooters them for shootings that are single incident and 4 or more deaths then nonwhites outweigh whites from what I've found.
If you don't want to do that, and you only want to use statistics provided by groups like mother Jones then yes whites commit a majority of mass shootings, but they commit them disproportionately.
@tmo0792, while I agree that African American disproportionate violent crime is important to discuss in general, it is irrelevant to this discussion, and it doesn't disprove her claim whatsoever.
@CHICKNUGMASTER, statista, is by no means, a reliable source. That's like looking at snopes. A very very left leaning propaganda site. I have seen plenty of times where they were wrong
@tmo0792, that's why I advised to not use their data in my reply. I think maybe you meant for this to be a reply to leslie
@CHICKNUGMASTER, The statistics I provided was indeed from the mother jones data and I agree that it’s hard to pinpoint the definition of mass shootings. I also don’t have the time (at least now) to go through the shootings statistics myself, and I was not referencing shootings for this year only. I’d love to continue talking to you about this, at a later point and after I’ve done more research myself ✌🏼
@Marida Cruz, I provided the statistics readily available, feel free to research your question and share what you find 😊
@tmo0792, we aren’t talking about African Americans, my friend. Apologies if you were upset by my comment that was in no way directed to you 👍🏼
@Leslie Knope 2020, good conversation. Hope you have a nice day :).
@tmo0792, Well, black people kill "their own kind" because they're living in constant poverty and are brought up surrounded by crime--much of which is caused by the fallout brought on by centuries of institutionalized racism. White people shoot up public spaces because they're nationalists looking to commit a terrorist attack.
Both acts are awful, but they aren't comparable in causation.
@I Hid Your Remote, this is completely asinine. So because they are poor they just shoot each other? And they do it because of supposed "institutionalized racism"? Oh please the most poverty stricken places get 400 dollars a month in food stamps, free housing, free gas, and even a free cellphone bill now. The average welfare recipient makes around 60k a year. Plenty of great African Americans that I know came from poverty and STILL did great things. They even get to go to college for little to nothing. It's just an excuse
@I Hid Your Remote, every single person is responsible for their own actions, stop blaming whitey for everything non whites do thatd illegal.
@tmo0792, It's culturally based. I agree with you that everyone is responsible for their own actions, but that is just as relevant for white people. From an outside perspective, it's easy to say "just don't do crime", but when it's something you're surrounded by, not everyone can be such a success story as the tokens you're trying to point out.
Preventing black on black violence isnt as simple as giving welfare opportunities--if it is, it would've ended by now. The fact of the matter is that the culture of violence that exists in black poverty is a direct cause of the abuse and neglect white people (in positions of power or not) have imposed on them. Of course people have self efficacy, but not everyone can be your token success story. The solutions that exist to change this type of culture are that of empowerment and togetherness, not just welfare money. If you haven't already, I urge you to actually immerse yourself in a black, poverty stricken neighborhood to learn the truth.
@tmo0792, also, if you could, please provide sources where you are getting your statistics and amounts. Otherwise, you're just giving potentially false and unreliable information.
@I Hid Your Remote, baltimore.......
@I Hid Your Remote, dude I've been to Haiti and built houses for the poor. Literally the second poorest country in the world and their crime rates are not nearly as high as Americas poverty crime rates. I also volunteer at homeless shelters and so I've seen first hand how things go. The problem with the world and your attitude is that you dont want to take responsibility for your actions. You choose your own path. Poverty is just a roadblock and committing crimes to try to get on top or over the hurdle is just cheating because you dont want to work and earn it.
@tmo0792, Well my friend, the world doesn't always operate within the context of "if I work hard, I will succeed". There are so many factors that come into determining success, and while hard work and perserverence are crticial to that formula, there are other issues that come into play.
I.e. Your school, your parents, the connections you have as an adult, the job opportunities in your accessible environment, and not to mention the internal biases that people hold against individuals for being of a certain skin color. The cruel reality of this society is that hard work doesnt always win the day. It can help, but it's not the cure-all medicine. Stoicism and self-efficacy can only take you so far in a rigged system.
@I Hid Your Remote, Lol you are so brainwashed man. Welfare recipients get food stamps, free education, free housing, free internet and electricity. The middle class is the ones who suffer the most if anyone does. Stop being a sheep and watching CNN
@tmo0792, In order to apply for all of that welfare, they must remain below a certain poverty level. Also, applying for many welfare benefits require a myriad of qualifications and bureaucratic processes.
And thank you for your concern, but I dont watch a bit of CNN. The news source I subscribe to is the Associated Press, if you're interested. Please dont attack me, focus on the argument itself. And definitely dont assume things about people that simply aren't true.
@I Hid Your Remote, I'm not even attacking you. I'm simply stating that what you are saying is wrong because it is. Stop thinking because I disagree with you that I'm attacking you. Noones attacking you. Another thing, if you want to help the moochers mooch even more why dont you kick the 50% of illegal aliens who suck off the welfare system get off so they can continue to use ky tax money to support their lazy asse*. You have to be completely oblivious to think that the welfare system isnt abused and misused like 80% of the time. I even had a woman tell me why should she get a job making minimum wage when she makes 45k a year in welfare.
@tmo0792, Calling some a "sheep" is a bit insulting and what interpret to be attacking, but that's beyond the point.
Also, anyone who isnt a citizen of the United States cannot apply for any sort of welfare, beyond public education being provided to them. Wherever you're getting that information, you've been misinformed.
From my experience (and many other peoples), it is the undocumented people that work the hardest because they're taking the lowest of the low jobs because it's all thats available to them. Grueling conditions, unfair wage, and a constant threat of being deported.
And yes, the welfare system is most certainly abused because it encourages people to stay in poverty and remain reliant on the government, which is complete bullsht in my eyes. There needs to be something better in place that helps people gain agency over themselves in order to not just be given money.
@I Hid Your Remote, you are sorely mistaken again buddy https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/articles/james-l-seward/what-benefits-can-illegal-aliens-receive
@I Hid Your Remote, https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/416225-the-truth-about-illegal-voting%3famp
@tmo0792, Thanks for sharing. So what I'm gleaning from these articles are:
Undocumented people have little to no rights beyond a few basic benefits that keep them from being completed abused within the US. They are not allowed to receive welfare, but some do. I did some further research to confirm money amounts gained from undocumented people collecting welfare--this is dated, but govinfo.gov confirms the amount in 1995 to be $1.1 billion, which is 3% of total AFDC costs. Make of that what you will.
I couldn't find any percentage of undocumented people who are benefiting from welfare, so I'm not sure where your 50% stat from earlier came from, either.
I can see that you're passionate about not being taken advantage of, which I respect fully. I am not advocating for more welfare--just the opposite, in fact. There need to be more concrete supports for people, and there must be easier ways for immigrants to become citizens besides waiting 10 years before their request is processed.
That's because you're racist.
@ThePandaPool , i bet you’re not even a panda
Betty white. Incase people didnt get the joke theyre saying bet he white.
@BlazingBowman, thanks man, I was wondering why they'd think old ladies were the typical mass shooter
@The Landshark , np took me.a bit too.
NGL took me a minute to get this one
Old white lady? Thats a weird thing to say
@ Mr Cuymenq, immortal maybe?
Who cares what the color the skin of a terrorist is, they threw away their humanity the moment they aimed their sights at innocent people.
Bet he white