Who needs a mask when you have the power of music
Telling you to wear a mask for public safety is no more tyrannical than giving you a speed limit while driving for the same reason. If everyone wore a mask for 2 months, we'd probably be at a point right now where masks are only required in only a few circumstances.
Just wear a mask, it's fvcking cotton. Not metal wire sewing your mouth shut to keep you from speaking. Although it might keep some of the shjt particles you spew from spreading onto others.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, what I dont get is if you dont think they work, what is the big deal? It's not so much of an inconvenience that it effects people's lives. There really isnt any reason not to just to be safe.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, oh don’t get me started on the tyranny of speed limits! *i say standing uncomfortably close with no mask on*
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, People are nutso-coocoo about it though.
There’s almost zero need for them outdoors, but people act like this shjt is transmitted by light particles or something.
@A Deformed Penis, you seen the people driving by themselves wearing a mask in their car? Lol who are they protecting??
@A Deformed Penis, outdoors at a park? Absolutely not. Outdoors at a concert or theme park? Yeah, they help.
Like I said, people would stop being babies and wore them for 2-3 months, they wouldn't be required. Now you have private businesses that can make their own rules requiring them. Are the companies being tyrannical? Or are they expressing their right a business to require a mask, just like shirt and shoes?
I could completely understand the pushback on say, requiring a haz-mat suit in public. But a fvcking cloth over your mouth and nose? Just fvcking wear it for the greater good of society for a short period of time.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, I look at it the same way I look at vaccines. There is a benefit to them, but I would never say we need to mandate that everyone get vaccinated. It's a violation of their bodily autonomy. However, it is completely fine for private establishments to require their patrons to abide by whatever rules they wish to enforce on their property, so if they want to require masks that is fine. It's when the government decides to mandate that people do something with their bodies that I take issue with it, because it is not the government's place. They aren't supposed to be our babysitters.
@Doctor Yak, I really don't mind wearing a mask at Walmart. It's when I can get fined for having a picnic at the park is when I think it's gone too far.
@Doctor Yak, so for the record: requiring cotton on your face is government overreach, requiring cotton on your torso is fine?
Also, it being a law to wear a seatbelt, which affects no one but yourself....is that violating your bodily autonomy? Oooorrr just like, being safe in the event of a car crash? You know, like being safe in the event of a pandemic?
@ThePandaPool , the big deal is that it's not your place to tell other people what they have to do. You don't have to like it, but you don't have authority over them. You might be okay with the minor inconvenience, but that doesn't mean everybody else has to be okay with it.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, no, I also don't think the government should require people to wear clothes, and I don't think seat belts should be required by the government. These are choices people should make for themselves, and they should deal with the consequences of their actions themselves, whether that be dealing with public shame, paying their medical bills, or death. Being stupid should not be illegal.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, seat belt is a bad example for the point you make. It prevents people from becoming missiles, and effects how much you can bring up in a lawsuit.
@Doctor Yak, should being stupid be illegal if it has the potential to harm or kill other people? If your answer is yes, wear a mask. And dude, fvcking seriously; I'm republican, I vote republican, I uphold MOST conservative values for rights and liberties but, it's a fvcking cloth. That you have to wear MAYBE 2-3 hours a day depending on your life. I have family thats in bad health and if they were to get Covid-19 and die from it from someone I could identify, I would murder them.
And if it all magically disappears (from the world) in November then fvcking sue someone for your mask acne, if you got it, and the $40 you spent on masks.
Like fvcking Christ. Republicans and conservatives (myself included) are usually the ones that say stuff like "man up" and "stop whining" but are the biggest babies in the universe about 2-ply cotton.
@ALargeRacoon, I hope you express those feelings to a cop the next time you get pulled over for speeding
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, bodily autonomy is a fundamental right upheld through many supreme court rulings. Having a driver's license is not a right, but a privilege. Your argument is a classic red herring fallacy.
@ALargeRacoon, then please, protest the requirement to be clothed in public, by going to work tomorrow naked. Send your child to public school without his or her up to date vaccinations.
Then when your done protesting those things, don't forget to tell a woman you've never met who's been raped that she must keep that she must keep that pregnancy and give birth.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, just because I would do something doesn't mean I want to make other people do it. I personally don't have a problem with wearing a mask, I have a problem with the government telling people to wear masks. I wear a mask when requested, and I'm not flouting the mandate my state put on licensed businesses to require masks or lose their license. I'm not trying to get myself into a legal battle, and I don't want to make life any harder for these businesses than it already is. I plan on retaliating by voting against the people that have pushed for these mandates in the upcoming election.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, you're just another cherry picker because at the end of the day, all you care about is yourself and it's blatantly obvious. Keep up the good fight against that pesky fabric, my brother ✊✊
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, I don't support requirements to be clothed, however I choose to be. It's a parents choice whether or not to vaccinate their kids and for what to vaccinate them from. As for a women who has been raped and become pregnant as a result, although it's a terrible situation, being done wrong by one person doesn't give you the right to harm an innocent third party. Your retort is a prime example of a hasty generalization fallacy.
@ALargeRacoon, no. His comment and yours really sums up as to whether anyone should care about your opinion or not.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, how do you have the energy to argue with stupidity like this. I'm tired just from reading it.
@ThePandaPool , and that's an ad hominem fallacy. You two should really learn how to make an argument before claiming your position is the right one.
@ThePandaPool , it's not stupidity when I use logical reasoning and you are unable to refute my argument. In fact, there's more evidence here to support the inverse.
@ALargeRacoon, oh God. Listen to you. Are you just a separate account for Chey D ley Sir? I can hear your neck beard waggle and your fedora tip after that one. It's not worth the arguement because you clearly dont care about anyone but yourself and I know I'm not gonna change that.
@ALargeRacoon, ok, Fallacy Man. So let me just ask you a simple question that requires a simple yes or no (not another fallacy deflection to sound smart): if masks are proven to slow or prevent the spread of a virus, will you wear one in public places for a few months to protect your fellow American?
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, unlikely, also this is a false dichotomy fallacy.
@ALargeRacoon, let me stop you mid-keyboard warrior-ing. A simple yes or no is all I want, anything more will just prove your idea of beating around the bush to basically tell everyone here you don't give a fvck about anyone but yourself
@ALargeRacoon, Jesus Christ man. Your a piece of work. You can't even answer a question
@ThePandaPool , this is my only account, I do care about other people and my stance of not wearing a mask does not disprove that, and I hope you enjoy your cognitive dissonance.
@ThePandaPool , at this point I have no energy left. If this dude put half of his passion against masks into caring about a world pandemic,he probably would've invented the vaccine himself by now. At this point I hope he gets hit by a truck hauling Corona Extra, being driving by a guy with Coronavirus
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, I answered your question. Don't get mad at me because you failed to make a successful argument. I've been logically consistent throughout this spat. Just because you can't make a compelling argument doesn't make me a piece of work. If you really want to make arguments, I'd recommend taking a formal logic class to better your argumentative skills.
@ALargeRacoon, you did not. I asked yes or no yet you cannot take a firm stance on anything it seems. Furthermore, your half-ass answer tells me all I need to know about you. I don't need to take a class to recognize someone with illusory superiority. Although you could stand for a biology and pathology class. Good day, sir or madam.
@ALargeRacoon, he said “if masks are proven to slow or prevent the spread of a virus” it’s important to look at the wording as it’s givin because it’s hypothetical in order to take out the argument of effectiveness. And you said “unlikely” lol c’mon man. You basically just said “idc if it works I still won’t wear one”. So yeah it’s hard to see you caring for others with that response
@ThePandaPool , my problem is they’re impeding the spread of COVID19. We need herd immunity. Dragging this out is dumber than eating igneous rocks and complaining about your teeth and stomach hurting afterwards.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, you assuming there are only two possible options to your question doesn't mean there are actually only two answers. I've taken biology and pathology classes as I majored in philosophy specializing in medical and legal philosophy.
@Hot Coffee,Now I consider that a very valid point. Simple tactic of "everyone in high risk, quarantine yourself completely, and everyone without underlying issues continue on with your life normally." Issue is that now studies are saying that the antibodies dont seem to last long, and you can get it again. Now I dont know how accurate that is, but that would tell us it's not an option. Also you have things like Kawisaki disease that is coming from children getting Covid, which would be another bad side effect of that tactic. I am by no means an expert, so I need to run with the tactic the government is running with.
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, I agree with your reading to energy level. Over three hours 35+comments. Something fierce.
The main stipulation that is holding me up from agreeing with you is how serious the government bodies have taken this pandemic.
Having some peaceful protesters be condemned, while mobs of violent marxist insurrectionists get cheers.
Church's are having legal caps placed on their congregation size, backed by the Supreme Court, while violent marxist insurrectionists can party while flouting social distancing.
In Florida a new mask regulation placed in law states you need to wear a mask even while you're inside your house. No delineation on if you live alone.
Every law is leaning one way, every demonstration demands obedience, and any opposition must be quelled.
On top of all of that dr.Falchi so they wouldn't be run on masks. How crucial would it have been to not only have a unified message, but a strong one from the government.
This shows it's just all politics now
@Natural Sarcasm , I say unlikely because it is unlikely that I will. I didn't say no, I wouldn't. I didn't say yes, I would. There are circumstances where masks can be proven effective and I still wouldn't wear one and some (albeit less likely as there are already a plethora of studies showing masks aren't particularly effective in public use) where I might. This is the creation of a false dichotomy to force me into a position that I do not actually hold, hence why it is a logical fallacy.
@ALargeRacoon, it’s a false dichotomy for the purpose of finding common ground by eliminating the area in which you disagree.
The idea was if hypothetically speaking masks are proven to be effective regardless of circumstances would you wear one?
Most people would say “yeah if it was absolutely going to help I would” which would end the conversation on you two at least agreeing on that much
Obviously the effectiveness of masks is the real debate. It seems like he just wanted you two to agree on something. Either that or it was just going to circle back to the beginning, I don’t want to speak for him this is all just my assumptions
@Natural Sarcasm , and I still say I'm unlikely to. To what degree are they effective? To what exactly are they effective at doing? What special actions need to be taken by the wearer to ensure said effectivity? A blanket statement of effective could mean one of any number of things. There are less situations in which I would wear a mask than there are that I wouldn't. That is why my answer is not a yes or a no, but an unlikely.
@ALargeRacoon, you are an example of a fallacy fallacy. If something is not worded or argued perfectly in your eyes, you just claim it to be a fallacy and assume it to be wrong. You are a walking fallacy. A contradiction to debate. You try to shut down opposing views by using an escape to make yourself and others reading believe that you are more intellectual and therefore, right. All the while not being able to answer a simple yes or no question about a hypothetical situation that was posed to determine, if in the absence of your "plethora of studies"- masks were proven, without a doubt, to help curb the spread of a virus within the country that you uphold your rights as a citizen so highly, WOULD YOU WEAR A MASK?
And you shít the bed with your answer. You must have a noodle for a spine, swaying from side to side and taking whichever one suits you best for your argument.
@ALargeRacoon, you’re ignoring the parameters of the false dichotomy. Instead of repeating yourself you might as well just say that you refuse to answer the question the way that it’s asked. As you only seem keen on answering it the way you want the question to be phrased.
When the question requires an agree/disagree stance you throw in your third option. It’s like taking a multiple choice test where you can choose A or B and you fill in C and expect something other then frustration from the person asking the question
@Natural Sarcasm , the putting of parameters is exactly why I answered the way that I did. It's not a yes or no question. Just because you want a yes or no answer does not mean the only answer to the question is yes or no. Reducing it to only yes or no or agree/disagree doesn't allow me to give an accurate answer. If I agree, I'd be lying, and if I disagree I'd also be lying. There are questions that can only have two answers, but that question is not one of them. So I gave the best answer that I could.
@ALargeRacoon, alright let me try this another way
Despite our differences in opinions at the end of the day we want what’s best for people, agree or disagree?
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, you misunderstanding what a fallacy fallacy is. If I were to say "that is an x fallacy, therefore you shouldn't wear a mask," that would be a fallacy fallacy. I've never stated that. I've merely stated that your arguments don't actually support your claim, not that your claim is false.
@Natural Sarcasm , banana!
@Natural Sarcasm , I can agree with that.
@seeUpee, well I’ll be goddamned, you fvckin cracked the code!
@Natural Sarcasm , I just wanted to join in the chaos. there is no more memes to keep us sane!
@ALargeRacoon, boom, there we go! Common ground.
No offense but you philosopher types are the worst! Lol thanks for the debate
@seeUpee, right??? What has happened to uncut?!
@Natural Sarcasm , none taken. Good logical debates require a certain finesse that not everyone has.
@Natural Sarcasm , trying to reason with stupidity is only gonna give you a headache. It gets to the point with these neckbeards where you need to just downvote and move along...
@Drunk Pantless Uncle, for the record seatbealts help keep your body in place cause a lets say 150lb human going 30+ mph is going to hurt when the body hits you.
@ThePandaPool , idk man I think open dialogue is important. Even if I can’t change any minds at least I know more of the types of opinions out there. And if I really am correct then maybe next time I’ll be able to articulate my ideas better and more understandably for the other side. Plus sometimes it’s about more then the person you debate it’s also about all the people reading afterwards
@ThePandaPool , my question to all these anti-mask people is do you wear your seat belt when driving? It might still not save your life, but its not going to hurt you.
I have actually noticed that when I do go out, most people are wearing masks now and keeping distance from others, and even my 7/11 requires them.
If you don't want to wear one, don't go out, and a business has every right to refuse you for not wearing one. Kind of like how I don't smash your face in for being a dick. (Not you, I mean people in public)
@Natural Sarcasm , unless you watch every anime ever, just stay away. That's what happened
@ThePandaPool , I feel like you and @seeUpee, could be real bros lol
@Doctor Yak, that wouldn't be a problem if these shìtty decisions didn't have negative consequences on other people, but the thing is they do. We have laws against drunk driving because when people do that they kill people who never made any bad decisions. In the same vein wearing a mask will prevent someone from spreading their illness to someone who may die because of it
@Hot Coffee, the purpose of "spreading this out" as it were is to give hospitals the time to cope. Herd immunity at best estimates for covid will take about 70% of the population being immune. The problem is 5% of all cases require intensive care, and we have nowhere near the hospital capacity to handle even a small portion of that amount at once. So if you let it spread uncrontrolled you have a breakdown of hospitals and they start having to triage Healthcare and the death rate creeps closer to 5% as people go untreated and people without covid die because they can't get treated due to overburdened hospitals
@Not him again, oh I am such a dick compared to him. Lol. He's a nice guy
@ThePandaPool , that's what would make us the perfect trio lol. I'm not a dick, but I will stand up for myself and kick someone's ass if they get in my face...or get my ass kicked. Either way I did what I thought was right.
I do have a temper though. I remember a couple years ago at the gas station....and I don't even remember what I was arguing with the guy about, but he got in my face and said "this can end one of two ways", and I just slammed him into the wall and said "what was the second way?"
@Not him again, when I posted that it had been like 24 hours since anything was posted in uncut which was why this post blew up since it was the last one for a while lol but yes there are quite a lot of anime references
@Not him again, so you just gunna steal seeUpee from me and megaman and not invite us to the gang?? Real classy...
@Natural Sarcasm , hey, I didn't uninvite anyone, if you want to join, go right ahead
@Natural Sarcasm , a lot of people do it because they're making multiple stops and just don't bother taking it off. In this situation it may be safer too because you're touching your potentially contaminated mask less by not taking it on and off repeatedly
@Not him again, I've looked at a few arguments of the "anti-mask" side. Most of it involves the over reach of government into personal lives.
For instance, the state now has precedent to force close businesses and churches at the drop of the hat.
I don't mind anyone reading this is not relgous. Just understand that some are.
I just learned my 76 year old uncle died. Not of covid, but of the shut down. He worked tirelessly for 50 some odd years in the cattle business. Enjoying his time at the selling barn. He'd then go home to an empty trailer to right another check to his ex wife. Dementia sets in early in our family, and being alone with his thought made him deteriorate even quicker.
My uncle was killed by the close down. His lack of purpose. I've no idea how many others have died like him. It's dreadful.
The masks are a red hairing to grab power. Regardless if we stayed good little boys and girl we'd be locked down till the election.
@Not him again, okay for starters, I’m super happy I’m invited and secondly bullshjt you can join OUR group not the other way around lol
@Wankershim, alright I’ll give you that. Though my counter argument would be if your hands are contaminated and you didn’t sanitize then the mask won’t help regardless as your whole car is now contaminated. Plus unless you wash up to your elbows like a surgeon if you touch a contaminated surface then you’ll probably get the virus
@Doctor Yak, okay, so with that logic, let's say somebody crashes (lets say its their fault even) into you and you die because you're not wearing a seatbelt. Now they not only have to deal with the insurance BS, but also the possibility of being charged with, for example, vehicular manslaughter- not to mention the the mental damage from accidentally killing someone. Honestly if you are bothered by something where the logic behind it is to keep people alive, then you should really rethink your beliefs
@Doctor Yak, if people just did such things as wear seatbelts and masks, or drive the speed limit, there wouldn't need to be laws for them
@Natural Sarcasm , that's why people need to be mindful and on top of washing and sanitizing. Its a combination of all the measures to keep you safe
@Wankershim, BUT if your on top of sanitation then wearing a mask by yourself in a car is still pointless lol
@Wankershim, well, I don't agree with them being charged for my death if I was being unsafe by not wearing my seatbelt. If I choose to not wear a seatbelt and then get into an accident, the results should be mine to deal with, beyond the damage to my car, which they should have to pay for. If I'm taking all reasonable precautions for safety, then they should be responsible for my personal injuries. But, that has nothing to do with the state mandating what I do with my own body. When I'm driving, I'm operating a motor vehicle, and thus the regulations are in regards to that act. When I'm walking in public, I'm not doing anything but existing in a public space.
@Wankershim, also, in the case of an accident, there are clearly defined parties involved. In the case of the spread of coronavirus, it is highly unlikely that you can trace a case from one individual to another beyond a shadow of a doubt that it could have been from something else.
@Doctor Yak, yeah the seatbelt argument is a pretty flimsy comparison. Especially looking at raw numbers. I mean I get it but it’s a metaphor you can dive ridiculously deep on and lose the message in the semantics
@Natural Sarcasm , I don't know why people don't understand the only issue I have is the government mandates. I have no problem with people wearing masks, I will wear a mask where people ask me to, and I don't go out much, nor do I interact with many people. But I'm the bad guy for wanting the government to let us make our own choices.
I mean, I get that people stand to lose loved ones to this virus, but maybe instead of having the government come and keep them safe for them, people make choices for themselves that make them safer. I just want people to consider how these precedents can be abused, because there are a lot of ways, and next time they might be on my side, but it'd be better if there was no next time.
@That one lurker, I'm sorry about your uncle. I learned yesterday that my 40 year old cousin died from acidosis, a perfectly preventable thing.
Let's not forget the dozen of friends I've lost from suicide, and the fact that my mom died 3 months ago.
You want to know what is dreadful? Walking into the living room and seeing your dad in tears because your mom passed away after a long battle with cancer
@Doctor Yak, well I imagine for most people it’s a knee jerk reaction when they think you’re being non compliant for lesser reasons. Mixed with people only hearing the negative sides to your argument while ignoring the rest.
All in all it’s pretty clear through many scenarios playing out nationwide that there are considerable few people willing to think outside of extremes, at least the vocal ones.
I think it’s important to approach any and all situations logically. Like with masks... if the general populace feels safer with them then fvck it let’s wear them. However if it becomes detrimental to your health, for instance wearing them for hours on end well then we have a whole other issue to deal with.
@Natural Sarcasm , I'd be happy to
@Not him again, shjt man that’s awful, I’m sorry you had to go through that
@That one lurker, sorry man, that’s rough. I’m sure your uncles in a better place now though
@Natural Sarcasm , I totally get where you're coming from there. People like to know that others care, and wearing a mask in public spaces is construed as a signal of that. However, the science that I'm aware of does not demonstrate a need for masks in general public spaces, like in a park or something, as distancing from others is much more effective to the point of rendering the mask as superfluous. I'm not much for doing things that I find unnecessary just to make people feel safe when it does nothing beyond that. That, and if a person doesn't have the virus then it really doesn't matter whether they're masked or not, because they can't spread what they don't have. And just like carrying a gun around makes some people feel unsafe, it is not a guarantee that harm will come from that person.
I care about people's lives and health, but not so much their feelings. Maybe it's because I'm emotionally dead, but feelings to me are worthless. Human rights and principles are what have weight.
@ThePandaPool , agreed. I’m not big on wearing masks, but I always think there’s a time an place. I’m in Georgia in one of the worst counties and still haven’t got it (that I know of) because in places I can easily maintain my distance I may not wear a mask, but when I have to deal with the disaster of Walmart, I’ll be in a damn hazmat suit
@ALargeRacoon, Jesus dude you're just being annoying at this point trying to sound smart bc you took an intro to critical thinking course at university and now think you're the master debater.
@Not him again, I know. I count my family very lucky. My mother just got her last bottle for her cancer treatment. Not even three years ago my father had an aneurysm, it was found by a doctor doing a random check up.
I think about how devastating these things feel. Then I think of the virus, how pissed people must be at new york and other states about how they treated old folks.
It's things like all of this, that make me not believe these people. About the lockdown.
I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope both your mother and father find peace. I hope the same for you.
I'm mainly typed this cause I'm tired of the fighting. My uncle was a vet that was stationed in unoccupied Berlin. The same spectre over that city hangs here. Let's just put up a wall, let the commies have their coast lines. I'm getting apathetic of their plights, and I feel terrible for this. That's why I despise dehumanizing language. We can't otherise our selfs, even for something as silly as a mask.
@Doctor Yak, oh I don’t get me wrong I believe that masks do basically nothing by comparison to other preventive measures. I will admit that I only wear a mask to make others feel at ease, idk it’s a small sacrifice to make others happy and avoid conflict.
But you’re right about outdoor areas. It serves literally no purpose as long as your social distancing
And as far as government overreach. If they can dictate what you wear in an open area then it’s slippery slope to regulating what you wear in your own home. Meaning if a neighbor called the cops cause they saw you through the window without a mask it’s a legal reason for a search warrant or even just to flat out arrest you if you answer the door without a mask.
But I believe in private businesses running their business how they see fit. The government should just butt out
@ALargeRacoon, you can’t claim body autonomy on one hand then be against abortion on the other, you can’t have both, the hypocrisy
@Landrover, the body of a baby isn't your body. It's the body of a separate individual.
@That one lurker, and he recently passed at 76? I'm sorry but that math doesn't add up. My grandpa was an engineer in wwii and was sent to Japan to assess the bombings, and he was 22. He's 93 now, so that doesn't add up, unless you're talking about when the wall fell
@ALargeRacoon, not a baby till it’s born
@jouze, that was true at the beginning of this mess, hence the shutdown, but we’ve bolstered our reserves of ventilators and have a much better grasp of how deal with this illness. We are as prepared as possible for increase in cases. The damage to our economy is going to be more devastating than COVID19 has been if things keep going on as they have been.
@Landrover, it's a separate human life. A person. It's not the mother, and the mother is not it.
@ALargeRacoon, it’s a long comment section, how did you end up in an abortion debate? Lol
@Natural Sarcasm , some random brought it up. Honestly, it's getting difficult to actually find the replies with all the comments
@ALargeRacoon, right? This is what happens when uncut goes 24hrs with no update colliding with recent
@Not him again, dude, Berlin's been occupied since Reagan, like '92. He was around roughly in the 60's/70's. I only knew that he was the Capt. Ahab of pool sharks while there.
@Natural Sarcasm , yeah some other random tried jumping into the fray essentially calling me a d1ck like I'd care what their opinion of me was.
@ALargeRacoon, well you’re deff a character but I enjoy having you around! Don’t let the negative comments bother you
I know you don’t anyway, just tryin to be positive
@ALargeRacoon, that guy is a tool anyways
@Natural Sarcasm , I've been around since before Jamal was always at the store. Didn't have an account back in those days, but I've been around through thick and thin.
@seeUpee, bitch you stfu!! O wait... were you not talking about me?
@ALargeRacoon, same! If had a the app for years before finally making an account
@Natural Sarcasm , Bahahaha no! That British dick guy of horrible unreliable SUVs... like you my bro! Even tho if you get snappy again we fighting!
@seeUpee, *twirls mustache* time for fisty cuffs! Be warned I can grow a beard way better than peralta so my twisty stache is extra early 1900s
@seeUpee, oh wait I should also point out that I just recently had to make a 150lb fear aggressive Great Dane sit down while I shoved a pill down her throat all by myself so I ain’t scared.
Also I had to force a cat gone full feral into a cat cage... it was horrible... *shutters*
@Natural Sarcasm ,
*your intimidation tactics are working*
What kind of protection did you have with the cat?
@ThePandaPool , the "antibodies don't last wrong" study is a load of b0llocks to put it nicely.
Once the body has developed a secondary immune response it "stores" the process for creating antibodies in memory B cells. These cells last decades at least, and this doesn't change depending on the disease as these studies are claiming, this is a universal truth.
Antibodies require a lot of energy to produce and maintain, so the body only produces them when actively fighting a disease and for a few days after, eg. If you develop COVID on day 1, and it takes 4 weeks to defeat it (day 29), by day 36 all traces of COVID antibodies will have disappeared from your system.
However, as soon if you come into contact with the virus again, the body "awakens" the memory B cells that start producing the antibodies to defeat the virus.
Because of this, no sh1t antibodies for COVID don't last long, they're not supposed to, but a lack of antibodies does not mean a lack of immunity.
@seeUpee, a thin blanket I folded over a couple times to let the cat latch on and bite my hand while I used my exposed hand to scruff it and lift it out of the cage.... I’d rather deal with the Great Dane any day lol
@Bloodthirsty Penguin, sorry for any inaccuracies. I was just spewing out what I had read. This kind of stuff is not my strength.
@ThePandaPool , dont apologise my dude :) there's a lot of misinformation regarding COVID going around right now and it seems like it is trying to push a political agenda.
I'll be completely honest with you, 2 months ago I knew jack sh1t about COVID, even though I had caught it and got over it I still didn't know anything. A good friend of mine works as an engineer at a pharma company and gave me the science behind it all (this was a very, very long phone call), and then let me form my own opinions so as not to influence me. Now whenever I hear anything to do witb COVID, I try find a comparative case of something pre 2019 (less likely to be poltical) then apply what the study shows to the COVID situation.
@Natural Sarcasm , ugh! That sounds terrible!!! You poor soul! Can’t believe they have you do that at work... just terrible... terrible!
Rest of the world doesn’t care that much
@JAMA, youve be surprise how much the world knows about America , and how stupid we look doing dumb shït. As “the best country in the world” all eyes are on us, they know who gets elected, they know what laws are happening , they even know the injustice happening. Don’t be so close minded to think we aren’t views because of where we are
@DrSin, you’re right I do see 5 minutes of the news when they talk about how bad you’re dealing with your affairs. News flash everyone think the country they live in is the best in the world. Just because you shout the loudest doesn’t mean you’re the only country on the planet. Your being closed minded and quite so centred of you think the whole world really cares at all close as much about your country rather then their own
@JAMA, do me a favor, go research how many countries where watching when Obama became president, just humor me
@DrSin, how many countries watched the Olympics or the World Cup. Someone becoming president effects the world the same as if the Chinese or Russian ever changed leadership. What’s your point?
@JAMA, here you go again spurting things that I do not need I asked you to humor me and look up some number but yet again it looks like following the simplest instructions is difficult for you
@DrSin, Do your own research, I couldn’t care less about whatever your point was. Yet again? When was the first time?
*notices 100+ comments, grabs popcorn*
*can’t decide whether to take off mask or keep it on while eating popcorn*
@DwayneTheCockJohnson, you want some butter?
@DwayneTheCockJohnson, just cut a hole thru the mask and eat popcorn thru it! Failproof!!!
@seeUpee, you've cracked the code!
*Nov 4* “It’s a miracle. The pandemic is mysteriously/magically over.”
People: “we told you it was BS.”
Idiots: “It’s over because we wore masks.”
@Cave Dweller, right, because the DNC is simultaneously powerful enough to organize a worldwide pandemic and miraculously end it at will, but *not* powerful enough to just manipulate votes in swing states.
@Ultimatum, in a word...
@Ultimatum, or... they’re evil enough to overreact and politicize a virus that, while terrible, is not nearly as big of a threat as they pretend it is.
@big freedom, now *that* is certainly more believable, but only because we already have the example of people underreacting and politicizing a virus that was more of a threat than they pretended it was.
You’re not stopping the actual virus particles, you’re stopping the liquid that the virus clings onto. It’s not *quite* so virulent to just hang out in the air without anything to stick to.
I will never wear a mask, and I’m willing to die to protect my freedom to breathe.
@Bobaganusche88, you can breathe fine with a mask, quit being a baby about it
@Bobaganusche88, I have had the good n95 masks since day one because I bought them years ago for sanding. When I teach I can't breath in that thing. It's ok if I'm not talking but that mask works so well I can hardly breathe. I switched to the ineffective cloth masks just so I don't pass out
@Depressed Cashier, you try talking or exercising in a n95 mask. If u can breathe fine in your mask it's time to throw that crap in the garbage and try to find a real mask
@Bobaganusche88, “I’ll never stop drinking and driving, I’m willing to die to protect my right to drink and drive” that’s how you sound. Be careful or you might get your wish.
@dj evolve fan club, the cloth and such masks aren’t for protecting you, they’re for protecting others, which they do alright while still being easy to breathe in
@Cpzombie, cloth masks have been proven to be 99% ineffective against viruses. Do u understand that viruses are very small particles?
@Cpzombie, trying to stop a virus with a cloth mask is like thinking a tennis net will stop a golf ball
@dj evolve fan club, you realize that viruses need a transmission medium? Which for covid, is generally droplets from speaking or coughing? They’re obviously not as effective as proper medical masks, but they do catch a decent amount of stuff that would otherwise be thrown in the air to be breathed by others.
@Cpzombie, it's better than nothing. I'm just trying to make people aware that they can either keep wearing the mask that their little sister made or try to find n95 masks which are made for surgeons